David_DJS

A feature, not a flaw.

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lake chuck fan

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You're content with deportations at a rate that will require 10+ years just to get rid of Biden's illegals?

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Why do yall value Chinese TVs and a tracking device in your pocket over a cohesive polite functioning society? Old people had it way better than we do

ETA: most of the materialist argument boils down to air conditioning and iphones. People didn’t need air conditioning because they weren’t fat and weak

If you went back in time and showed a boomer in the 70s your iPhone and told him you have an app that would call a stranger to come pick you up when you were drunk the boomer would laugh at you and say that drunk driving is legal why would you need that

Life was better then it’s stupid to argue about it

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Yeah, it’s too bad there’s a gun to everyone’s head today forcing us to have iPhones, central air, cars that routinely last 200,000 miles, and medical care that would look like science fiction to someone 50 years ago.

We’d obviously be much better off back in the days of the “polite, functioning society,” when violent crime was about twice what it is today, American children in pockets of the country literally suffered from lack of food—not today’s version of “starvation” that somehow coexists with obesity—and political violence and social unrest that make today's look like a rambunctious recess.

There are things about American society 50 years ago that were better and worth recovering. But pretending progress since then amounts to “air conditioning and iPhones” requires a truly heroic level of selective memory or outright ignorance of what life was like in the 60's, 70's and 80's.

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I tried to answer that, and my conclusion, from the data on hand, is that it is unlikely to be a leak. Like I said, it could be from improper handling of samples, but that is also much less malicious.

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You lost me.

Wouldn't improper handling of samples be a leak?

In any case, like I posted earlier - I don't think it was malicious but the beginning of the Covid shitshow was likely a leak from the Wuhan lab.

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This would not be the first question I would ask in this situation, because what we first need to ascertain if they have the ability to synthesize the virus itself.

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Why? The (purposeful) leak could have been a sample taken from nature or from another lab.

I was just curious how anything at the molecular level could indicate (or not) a leak.

I think it's likely that the lab was where it all began, but I don't think the leak was on purpose. I have no idea what the genesis of the virus itself was.

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or rape

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Hmm

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So government education without the education?

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That's public schools. This will be different somehow.

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Neither of us can be sure what would have happened. I think blue states would have locked down and most red states would only have locked down for a few weeks.

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Let's consider how political the whole shitshow was. I'll put it this way - if Obama had been president and heading for an easy reelection in November 2020 instead of Trump, there'd have been zero lockdowns and the CDC would have been preaching calm, and "all we can do is care for those in harm's way - the old/frail and already very unwell - as best we can. It would be crazy to shut schools down because kids aren't in jeopardy, and it would be counterproductive to shut commerce down, so let's all stay strong."

We would have ended up counting only about 30% of the Covid deaths we (supposedly) had under Trump, and we all would have celebrated as the country developed natural immunity.

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Trump could not command the CDC/NIH to preach anything. Fauci and company weren’t going passive on this. We know what would happen if Trump got more aggressive on reopening than his public health administration was preaching. We know it because it happened, and Trump was vilified in the press and by the democrats. And if anything, it made the left more militant about shutting down.

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Well, recall how it all started. It was Democrats that were dismissive of Covid. They're the ones that refused to change their actions/habits, right? It was the American Right, unfortunately led by f'n Tucker Carlson every night on his show, that started the national freakout about Covid.

I don't understand the point about Trump being incapable of directing the CDC/NIH, two organizations in the executive branch. I'm not suggesting he could have muzzled Fauci without a ton of bad press, but I think a rational approach to this whole shitshow would have started with the understanding that no matter what Trump did, he was toast in the press and Dems would be as difficult as possible. So he should have stuck to his guns and done what was right.

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If they accidentally stop me I would assume it can be cleared up as soon as they realize I haven’t committed a crime.

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lmao - yeah, because government is super awesome at efficiency, speed and accuracy. There's no way there could ever be unintended consequences.

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If Trump “lit a fire” it was probably a very appropriate one. You can argue the wisdom of the covid lockdowns all you want (I was against them) but they were happening regardless of the president.

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How pervasive would lockdowns have been if fedgov hadn't funded them?

Where lockdowns were enacted, how long would they have lasted if fedgov hadn’t funded them?

Lockdowns were economic abortion and Trump was stupid to have greased the skids for Democrats in flooding the country with COVID dollars.

How fricked up is the GOP? Thune was elected majority leader.