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re: Kids wanting change and socialism questions..
Posted on 10/29/26 at 1:57 pm to WWII Collector
Posted on 10/29/26 at 1:57 pm to WWII Collector
corruption on a mass scale leads to communism. Our govt has been picking winners my entire life. Free markets are a sham. If we had free markets post 2008 would have looked way different.
Money = power, it's always been this way. Biden was controlled by billionaire donors; Trump is controlled and persuaded by billionaire donors. The corruption is out of control and has been. Make the govt work for the people and not the donors and you will not have a problem with socialism and communism. Keep up this out-of-control billionaire culture who openly buy influence and eventually people are going to look at a different type of govt.
Money = power, it's always been this way. Biden was controlled by billionaire donors; Trump is controlled and persuaded by billionaire donors. The corruption is out of control and has been. Make the govt work for the people and not the donors and you will not have a problem with socialism and communism. Keep up this out-of-control billionaire culture who openly buy influence and eventually people are going to look at a different type of govt.
Posted on 10/29/26 at 1:58 pm to 0
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Its not about being hard, its about being affordable
Affordable is always hard.
Do you know how people afforded college in the 70s?
Day job and night school.
How many college kids today have a full time day job and take classes at night?
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Want to take a guess if starting wages for a recent college graduate have risen enough to cover that increase?
Wages out of college are always rough. Most college degrees are not stem. Never have been.
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The same amount of work put in now is worth less than it was 30 years ago and that pisses people off, and they want to see radical change.
This is the lie that they want to believe.
Young people are always pissed off.
See the 60s. 70s. 80s. 90s.
This isn't new. If you aren't a liberal in college, then you have no heart. If you are not a conservative as an adult, then you have no brain.
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The older generations can either start helping to fix the current system or see it slip more towards socialism as they die off.
All of the "problems" with affordability surround the programs that the government spends the most money and regulation.
Government backed student loans make anyone able to attend college. Increase in demand creates a bubble.
Government backed mortgages keep interest rates low which drive demand. Increased demand creates a bubble.
Government ACA policies increase insurance premiums. But the biggest loss to those ACA policies is the increase in deductubles and out of pocket maximums.
The irony in the name of the Affordable Care Act is that it benefits 10% of Americans in cost and the other 80% of Americans have seen 22 times increase in deductibles (my deductible went from $175 to $4000).
And these young people want Government to fix the problems that the government created.
That is how communism is born.
Posted on 10/29/26 at 2:00 pm to QuickTrap
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Free markets are a sham. If we had free markets post 2008 would have looked way different.
Give me an example
Posted on 10/29/26 at 2:02 pm to meansonny
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I graduated college
How much did that cost
Posted on 10/29/26 at 2:05 pm to meansonny
Tarp program, bail outs of major banks
Posted on 10/29/26 at 2:06 pm to atlgamecockman
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How much did that cost
I finished with about $5000 in student loans, worked 2 jobs in summer and Christmas, and worked weekends during the school year waiting tables.
Graduated in 3 years with AP credits and a conversion from quarters to semesters.
Rent was $400/month.
Posted on 10/29/26 at 2:06 pm to 0
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The older generations can either start helping to fix the current system or see it slip more towards socialism as they die off.
Boomers frittering away wealth for the next generation
"I got mine, I'll spend it how I want!" Yeah, maybe if you passed a little down to help the generation after yours you might have less people begging for socialism. Too selfish to make that connection though I reckon.
Posted on 10/29/26 at 2:07 pm to kingbob
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Affordability of housing is a huge problem. There are free market based solutions. We should be touting them. The same is true for reforming entitlements and bringing down the costs of healthcare and education.
Every bit of that gets better if we get all the illegals and H1B's the frick out of here.
Posted on 10/29/26 at 2:07 pm to meansonny
Must have been nice!
Posted on 10/29/26 at 2:07 pm to QuickTrap
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Tarp program, bail outs of major banks
I agree.
If your argument that free markets are dead because of something 18 years ago, i think you are stretching that "quote" out a little longer than it should live.
Posted on 10/29/26 at 2:08 pm to atlgamecockman
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Must have been nice!
Graduating as fast as possible while working 2 jobs is not easy.
You calling me a liar?
Posted on 10/29/26 at 2:11 pm to meansonny
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Affordable is always hard.
Do you know how people afforded college in the 70s?
Day job and night school.
How many college kids today have a full time day job and take classes at night?
According to AI, part time college students were around 28% at 1970 and rose to around 36% at its peak in the 70's. Today it is anywhere between 33% and 37%.
In 1970, only about 14% of full-time college students worked 20 or more hours per week. Today, a much larger share of full-time students work significant hours (with over 30% working 20+ hours per week, and nearly 10% working full-time jobs of 35+ hours while taking a full course load).
This post was edited on 10/29/26 at 2:12 pm
Posted on 10/29/26 at 2:12 pm to 0
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A degree from LSU in 1990 would cost about 10k. Now its over 10k a year.
If government gave everyone free college, the value of that degree would be what you paid for it.
Posted on 10/29/26 at 2:12 pm to meansonny
No I believe you worked hard for that and good on you.
I also know your dollars went farther and afforded more. That's sort of the problem that was referenced earlier in the thread.
Not sure what a year's worth of tuition was in 1999 but I doubt it was anything like it was now. The buying power of wages has decreased since the 80s, you got out before it got really bad. Must be nice.
I also know your dollars went farther and afforded more. That's sort of the problem that was referenced earlier in the thread.
Not sure what a year's worth of tuition was in 1999 but I doubt it was anything like it was now. The buying power of wages has decreased since the 80s, you got out before it got really bad. Must be nice.
Posted on 10/29/26 at 2:13 pm to meansonny
just wait until the AI bubble pops and we start bailing them out.
Posted on 10/29/26 at 2:13 pm to atlgamecockman
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I also know your dollars went farther and afforded more
You say that without looking it up
Posted on 10/29/26 at 2:15 pm to meansonny
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I also know your dollars went farther and afforded more
You say that without looking it up
Are you trying to argue that the dollar didn't go farther in the 70's?
Posted on 10/29/26 at 2:17 pm to kingbob
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If conditions do not approve, the young men will revolt.
those young men aren't gonna do a damn thing. gonna sit on their arse like the same ones with engineering degrees who are too lazy to move where the work is or think they're worth more than they actually are.
technology has always made us work more for relatively less as the people at the top get richer. it's the way of the world and socialism/communism is just a fast track to the same thing without the individual liberties.
Posted on 10/29/26 at 2:19 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
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Are you trying to argue that the dollar didn't go farther in the 70's?
I am saying that prices are reflective of the economy that they are charged.
In 1999, us GDP per capita was $34500.
In 2025, US GDP per capita is $90k
That holds true for education, housing, and healthcare
Posted on 10/29/26 at 2:22 pm to meansonny
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I am saying that prices are reflective of the economy that they are charged.
In 1999, us GDP per capita was $34500.
In 2025, US GDP per capita is $90k
That holds true for education, housing, and healthcare
You understand that this doesn't actually answer the question, right?
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