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I’m Starting To Lean To The US Blowing Up Nordstream Because Of The Select Media Stories
Posted by LuckyTiger on 9/30/22 at 2:27 am218
First on CNN: European security officials observed Russian Navy ships in vicinity of Nord Stream pipeline leaks
By Katie Bo Lillis, Natasha Bertrand
Bertrand is on the cia payroll. It will be interesting to see what stories are crafted by the usual suspects at the WaPo, NYT, and WSJ in the coming days.
Now, it could be that our IC is just putting out a counter narrative and Russia did indeed sabotage Nordstream. But the area that the four explosions were detected between Denmark and Sweden is in prime NATO territory. NATO is much more in control of the area than is Russia.
Europe will suffer but there’s little chance of them going back to Russian gas soon. The repairs could take a while.
By Katie Bo Lillis, Natasha Bertrand
Bertrand is on the cia payroll. It will be interesting to see what stories are crafted by the usual suspects at the WaPo, NYT, and WSJ in the coming days.
Now, it could be that our IC is just putting out a counter narrative and Russia did indeed sabotage Nordstream. But the area that the four explosions were detected between Denmark and Sweden is in prime NATO territory. NATO is much more in control of the area than is Russia.
Europe will suffer but there’s little chance of them going back to Russian gas soon. The repairs could take a while.
re: I’m Starting To Lean To The US Blowing Up Nordstream Because Of The Select Media StoriesPosted by Padme on 9/30/22 at 3:12 am to LuckyTiger
It’s funny how those who are the globalist bitches are able to mind meld and throw out the globalist narrative before they are even given the narrative. The bitch narrative would be that Russia blew up their own pipeline, because Russian is evil. If you’re smart, but aren’t based in reality, you might sell their narrative for them.
Russians are red
Blood is too
Orange man Bad
No natural gas for you!
— pipeline Nazi
Russians are red
Blood is too
Orange man Bad
No natural gas for you!
— pipeline Nazi
re: I’m Starting To Lean To The US Blowing Up Nordstream Because Of The Select Media StoriesPosted by CorchJay on 9/30/22 at 3:36 am to LuckyTiger
You'd be correct. US, Poland, or the UK. Deduced down probably the US since we have military bases near the areas. Plus we would know immediately any movement in the area. UK no because they are/were about to give in on sanctions because the people were going to revolt as soon as it starting get really cold. Plus energy prices in the UK has already made small businesses start closing. Poland I don't think has the military skill or intelligence to get away with it at sea.
Only other potential would be Israel but why would they get involved. Same with China at this point they wouldn't get involved they are getting the energy from Russia they need.
Only other potential would be Israel but why would they get involved. Same with China at this point they wouldn't get involved they are getting the energy from Russia they need.
re: I’m Starting To Lean To The US Blowing Up Nordstream Because Of The Select Media StoriesPosted by jivy26 on 9/30/22 at 4:08 am to LuckyTiger
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I’m Starting To Lean To The US Blowing Up Nordstream Because Of The Select Media Stories
Well Russia being the largest stakeholder in NS2 at just over 50%; makes zero sense that they would do it
re: I’m Starting To Lean To The US Blowing Up Nordstream Because Of The Select Media StoriesPosted by auggie on 9/30/22 at 5:40 am to LuckyTiger
Eco-terrorists.
They want to save the glaciers, the polar bears and the reindeer, and if they have to kill a few sea-snow monkeys, it's worth it.
They want to save the glaciers, the polar bears and the reindeer, and if they have to kill a few sea-snow monkeys, it's worth it.
re: I’m Starting To Lean To The US Blowing Up Nordstream Because Of The Select Media StoriesPosted by SouthEasternKaiju on 9/30/22 at 5:50 am to LuckyTiger
17 US intel agencies concurred that Russia interfered to help Trump win the 2016 election.
re: I’m Starting To Lean To The US Blowing Up Nordstream Because Of The Select Media StoriesPosted by BamaScoop on 9/30/22 at 6:00 am to LuckyTiger
Globalists are starting a civil
War!
War!
re: I’m Starting To Lean To The US Blowing Up Nordstream Because Of The Select Media StoriesPosted by Statestreet on 9/30/22 at 6:05 am to LuckyTiger
The BBC
So we can rule out Russia
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Nord Stream: Ukraine accuses Russia of pipeline terror attack
So we can rule out Russia
re: I’m Starting To Lean To The US Blowing Up Nordstream Because Of The Select Media StoriesPosted by ldts on 9/30/22 at 6:36 am to LuckyTiger
Although they'd already cut the gas off, having the pipe in place ready to restart was still a bargaining chip for Russia. Only thing they have to gain from the explosion is to gin up support among the Russian public. I don't know that gains enough for them to give up the leverage of being able to restart gas flows.
What makes the most sense is the US or another Euro country. It's pretty coincidental it occurred just as the Norwegian pipeline was partially started. That makes it seem like it was done in a way to try to mitigate the effects on Germany. That doesn't seem like ideal timing for Russia.
What makes the most sense is the US or another Euro country. It's pretty coincidental it occurred just as the Norwegian pipeline was partially started. That makes it seem like it was done in a way to try to mitigate the effects on Germany. That doesn't seem like ideal timing for Russia.
This post was edited on 9/30 at 6:37 am
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re: I’m Starting To Lean To The US Blowing Up Nordstream Because Of The Select Media StoriesPosted by Jspaspa3303 on 9/30/22 at 6:49 am to LuckyTiger
America in some way shape or fashion played a role on the blowing up of the pipe line . Question is how big of a role did they play . Democrat Hippocrates at its finest , let’s make the American people suffer and make them drive battery operated vehicles for the “environment” , but let’s blow up a pipeline that will produce more pollution then anything this world has seen 10 times over . I loath these son of a bitches , and let’s not for get Biden said he would do this .
re: I’m Starting To Lean To The US Blowing Up Nordstream Because Of The Select Media StoriesPosted by Plx1776 on 9/30/22 at 7:07 am to LuckyTiger
Whenever you see our msm solely using anonymous sources to back up a story, the story is most likely legit misinformation.
In a situation where half the world thinks we, the west, destroyed those pipelines, motherfrickin MSM are using western intelligence officials, anonymous ones at that, to conveniently blame others.
An 'anonymous source' of a passing garbageman who was tossing his trash in the ocean and just so happened to have a telescope with him, and he just so happened to be using the telescope and looking in the direction of those explosions... would've been more believable than using anonymous intelligence officials from any country.
In a situation where half the world thinks we, the west, destroyed those pipelines, motherfrickin MSM are using western intelligence officials, anonymous ones at that, to conveniently blame others.
An 'anonymous source' of a passing garbageman who was tossing his trash in the ocean and just so happened to have a telescope with him, and he just so happened to be using the telescope and looking in the direction of those explosions... would've been more believable than using anonymous intelligence officials from any country.
re: I’m Starting To Lean To The US Blowing Up Nordstream Because Of The Select Media StoriesPosted by Penrod on 9/30/22 at 7:13 am to LuckyTiger
I don’t think so. The US has way too much to lose. If it became known that the US did this it would end NATO and win the war for Putin. Maybe Putin did it to frame the US, but that seems unlikely because like your scenario, it would be a stupid gamble.
I’d bet on Ukraine, but they could not possibly have the technology to do it. The Baltic States?
Who benefits? The US and Ukraine if they are not suspected; Russia if the US is suspected. Many Russian former satellites benefit.
Obviously the US oil companies stand a lot to gain by having a long term market in Europe for LNG. I’ll make a killing on this. If I had the technology I’d have done it myself.
I’d bet on Ukraine, but they could not possibly have the technology to do it. The Baltic States?
Who benefits? The US and Ukraine if they are not suspected; Russia if the US is suspected. Many Russian former satellites benefit.
Obviously the US oil companies stand a lot to gain by having a long term market in Europe for LNG. I’ll make a killing on this. If I had the technology I’d have done it myself.
re: I’m Starting To Lean To The US Blowing Up Nordstream Because Of The Select Media StoriesPosted by idlewatcher on 9/30/22 at 7:14 am to Plx1776
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Whenever you see our msm solely using anonymous sources to back up a story, the story is most likely legit misinformation.
Yup. It provides cover from scrutiny.
re: I’m Starting To Lean To The US Blowing Up Nordstream Because Of The Select Media StoriesPosted by jamboybarry on 9/30/22 at 7:14 am to Plx1776
1984 wasn’t fiction after all
re: I’m Starting To Lean To The US Blowing Up Nordstream Because Of The Select Media StoriesPosted by Bunk Moreland on 9/30/22 at 7:28 am to LuckyTiger
Yeah, Greenwald was all over this.
quote:
Glenn Greenwald
@ggreenwald
·
17h
If, after 20 years of this same tactic, you want to keep believing it - to the point of now believing Russia blew up their own pipeline - have at it.
Maybe it's worth seeing some proof rather than gullibly believing these same lying "journalists" and CIA sources over and over?
quote:
Glenn Greenwald
@ggreenwald
·
17h
Starring former CIA Director John Brennan and his spokesperson Natasha Bertrand, as usual.
How many times did this duo lie over and over during the last 6 years, passing off all sorts of hoaxes - Alfa Bank, Hunter laptop, Havana Syndrome -- as true?
The Disinformation Duo.
re: I’m Starting To Lean To The US Blowing Up Nordstream Because Of The Select Media StoriesPosted by Powerman on 9/30/22 at 7:31 am to LuckyTiger
You believe the US blew it up because that's what you want to believe
And you'll use whatever reasons, however illogical to justify that belief
You likely happily ignore the anonymous sources when the story doesn't go against something that you want to believe
And you'll use whatever reasons, however illogical to justify that belief
You likely happily ignore the anonymous sources when the story doesn't go against something that you want to believe
re: I’m Starting To Lean To The US Blowing Up Nordstream Because Of The Select Media StoriesPosted by GumboPot on 9/30/22 at 7:38 am to LuckyTiger
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Radoslaw Tomasz "Radek" Sikorski ([ra'd?swaf ?i'k?rsk?i] (listen); born 23 February 1963) is a Polish politician and journalist who is a Member of European Parliament. He was Marshal of the Sejm from 2014 to 2015 and Minister of Foreign Affairs in Donald Tusk's cabinet between 2007 and 2014. He previously served as Deputy Minister of National Defense (1992) in Jan Olszewski's cabinet, Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs (1998–2001) in Jerzy Buzek's cabinet and Minister of National Defense (2005–2007) in Kazimierz Marcinkiewicz and Jaroslaw Kaczynski's cabinets.
A graduate of Pembroke College, Oxford, between 1986 and 1989 he worked as a journalist for The Observer and The Spectator and in 1986 was a war correspondent in Afghanistan. In 1989, he reported on the conflict in Angola. Between 2003 and 2005, he was a member of the conservative think tank American Enterprise Institute. In 2012, he was included on the list of Top 100 Global Thinkers 2012 published by Foreign Policy magazine. In 2015, he became a Senior Fellow at the Center for European Studies of Harvard University. He is a Senior Network Member at the European Leadership Network (ELN).
quote:
Since 1992 Sikorski has been married to an American journalist and historian, Anne Applebaum.
His wife:
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Anne Elizabeth Applebaum[2][3] (born July 25, 1964) is an American journalist and historian. She has written extensively about the history of Communism and the development of civil society in Central and Eastern Europe.
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She has worked at The Economist and The Spectator,[4] and was a member of the editorial board of The Washington Post (2002–2006).[5] Applebaum won the Pulitzer Prize in 2004 for Gulag: A History published the previous year.[6] She is a staff writer for The Atlantic[7] and a senior fellow at The Agora Institute at Johns Hopkins University School of Advanced International Studies.
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Applebaum is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations.[71] She is on the board of the National Endowment for Democracy and Renew Democracy Initiative.[72][73] She was a member of the Institute for War and Peace Reporting's international board of directors.[74] She was a Senior Adjunct Fellow at the Center for European Policy Analysis (CEPA) where she co-led a major initiative aimed at countering Russian disinformation in Central and Eastern Europe (CEE).[75] She was on the editorial board for The American Interest[76] and the Journal of Democracy.[77]
These are not hard dots to connect people.
ETA:
reddit with the cleanup on aisle 17...
This post was edited on 9/30 at 7:44 am
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