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re: I asked ChatGPT who are the Great Houses in political board history and who is allied
Posted by Penrod on 6/28/26 at 8:20 am to RCDfan1950
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“He is right wing but opposed to the populist movement which has taken over the conservative movement.”(quotePen).
Could you explain the difference between those two, Pen? Not that the parsing of words means much in the real life political dynamics.
If Populists support Conservatism, which I assume to be the Constitutional Republic form of government, but SFP’s arguments undermine and/or impede the defense and promotion of such, then how would SF’s arguments be defined as “Right Wing?
I apologize in advance for a lack of brevity, but we must go back to the early stages to understand this.
Before the rise of the modern liberal democracy western nations were governed by aristocracies, which were a tiny percentage of the population. The rest were forced to live as the aristocrats mandated.
Western nations began to emphasize the rights of individuals. It started thousands of years before but paused during the dark ages. It was revivified in acts like Maga Carta and the revolution led by Cromwell. These events shifted power from the elites to individuals. And each act of this sort widened the circle of individuals thus empowered.
Eventually we got the modern western liberal democracy. The socialists want to shift power back toward the elites. That’s not what they intend, but that is the natural result of nationalizing industries and raising taxes. Populism is a right wing reaction to that. But populism means to take the power that the leftist wanted, to equalize income disparities, and use it to protect other interests.
Both populism and socialism shift power from individuals toward the government, just for different purposes.
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re: Who's the smartest politician from Louisiana you've ever met?
Posted by Penrod on 6/28/26 at 8:10 am to stuckintexas
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smartest politician from Louisiana
Is like saying the fastest guy in the special Olympics.
Bobby Jindal graduated from an Ivy League University and was so impressive that every top consulting firm and every doctoral program in political science was recruiting him. You might have good reasons for not liking him, but he is a brilliant man.
re: Who's the smartest politician from Louisiana you've ever met?
Posted by Penrod on 6/28/26 at 7:37 am to FlyingTigerBo
Jindal is the answer…going away! But Edwin Edwards was the most savvy, at least in my lifetime. I guess Huey Long was even more so.
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Hilarious that it says that SFPs allies are people whose core beliefs are liberalism.
Yeah, that's proof AI is horseshite
I agree with AI on this. SFP is a classical liberal (as am I). He is generally on the side of devolving power away from the state and toward the individual, which is the core of the western liberal project.
Because of his argumentative, contrarian nature, SFP cannot be properly judged by his posts on a partisan message board. He will always come off as farther toward the other pole than he really is. It obviously distresses him when he is so often called a left-winger. He is not. He is right wing but opposed to the populist movement which has taken over the conservative movement.
re: Trump has a Catch 22 on his hands
Posted by Penrod on 6/28/26 at 7:17 am to Metaloctopus
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And the only way to fight it is to educate people on what it is
Our problem is that we lost the fight for the school boards and national education establishment. And they are grooming our children for socialism. We need to focus our attention on these areas.
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Is this where a bunch of losers who cant handle no power for a week bitch about not ruining power for 10-12 years for 90 million civilians that dont like the mullahs either?
My opinion exactly, but I could not word it so well. :bow:
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Whether it is the Iranian Guard, Hezbollah, Hamas, The Houthis, or all of the above, if we know that missiles were launched from a particular site or area, why don't we strike power plants supplying that area?
They don’t need power plants to launch missiles. Attacking power plants, in the way you suggest, is an attack on the civilian population - a population that is mostly on our side.
re: Letlow vote totals
Posted by Penrod on 6/28/26 at 6:55 am to Carlos the Tiger
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May 179,903
June 179,971
She literally got the same votes both times
Nope. She literally did NOT get the same amount.
re: It seems Trump is treating Iran like MacArthur treated Japan
Posted by Penrod on 6/28/26 at 6:54 am to hawgfaninc
Japan and Germany were defeated and had unconditionally surrendered. There can be no analogy of this sort between those two and Iran in this war.
re: With more attacks from Iran, more retaliation by us... Is there a method to this madness
Posted by Penrod on 6/28/26 at 6:43 am to captainFid
Of course there is a method. It’s one that Iran has used for decades. They ramp up provocation until they get a response. This is their way of testing resoluteness of their enemy. They will continue doing it, wearing away at our patience and our willingness to enforce the rules.
re: Well damn, looking bad for Fleming.
Posted by Penrod on 6/28/26 at 6:39 am to tigerstripes
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And Fleming would not become Cassidy 2.0
That’s the thing. I voted for Fleming in the first round, but I didn’t show up for this round because I really don’t see much difference between the two and Fleming is too old to serve, in my opinion.
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You think she isn't 100% beholden to Trump? And that is all he cares about. Trump endorsing her was about holding power over a senator in a chamber of congress that has been tough sledding for him.
He has no power over her. She doesn’t face an election again for six years, when Trump will be 86 and no longer in the public eye.
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It’s about killing off old people just like covid and its accompanying protocols.
If covid was about killing off old people why the shutdowns and forced social distancing? It was very much the opposite of that. For the first time in history societies punished the young people to help the old people.
re: British police are threatening to ARREST people who use air conditioners
Posted by Penrod on 6/28/26 at 6:25 am to Placekicker
I’m sure the rationale is that floors 1-7 are shaded by other buildings. But shouldn’t the setpoints for the floors above be maintained at the average temperature in floor 1-7? That way everyone would be treated the same.
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If I were to just show up in their country, would that make me an American born British man?
No. You would have to achieve British citizenship.
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Yea but what was the perps thermostat set on in his home?
That is a perfect commentary on the infantilism of the UK government.
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Meanwhile Trump has the government buying stakes in private countries. Is Trump a socialist?
That’s an excellent question. I would answer, No, but he trends towards it.
ETA: One of the uncomfortable truths a lot of American conservatives will have to come to grips with is that socialism is not just an ideology of the left but has historical antecedents on the right as well.
re: Trump has a Catch 22 on his hands
Posted by Penrod on 6/28/26 at 5:47 am to SallysHuman
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One poorly written or poorly received… I’ll take the L.
No L for you. I understood what you meant, and you are correct. There is a growing cohort of Americans who think socialism is great.
It’s important to distinguish socialism from communism, which are two different variants of collectivism. The other form of collectivism we need to understand is fascism.
Communism is dead and buried. It failed so miserably, and has such obvious utopian contradictions, that the world’s intelligentsia disavowed it as early as the 1940s.
True socialism - meaning a planned economy and government seizure of the means of production - was the fallback position for the world’s communists. This was tried in the late 1940s by a number of countries - Sweden and Britain most notably. Both had to turn back to capitalism when they were unable to match its “invisible hand” with central planning.
Now we have “Democratic-Socialism” which is the next fallback position. They will seize just a few industries (of course once they get the bit between their teeth they won’t be able to stop), and they will radically redistribute wealth towards the unproductive.
All socialism, of the left and the right, leads to authoritarianism. And democratic-socialism is a condition that can only last until it is firmly established. At that point the obvious economic failures of socialism will lead to the demos rejecting it. At that point the socialists must reject either the socialism (as Britain and Sweden did) or the democracy (as Russia, China and Cuba did).
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What you're talking about is the Democratic Socialist party, who until the MAGA era were rightly regarded as mainstream moderates; centrist.
The Democrat-Socialists want the government to seize industries and control the means of production. That is NOT moderate - not in America.
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U sure?
Not really :lol:
re: Only 13 Democrats out of 259 in Congress put their signature down opposing socialism.
Posted by Penrod on 6/27/26 at 8:15 pm to RohanGonzales
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What is funny is that democrats almost always vote in ;lockstep
They infight about the same amount as republicans. When Biden tried to pass a three trillion dollar bill Manchon and Sinema stopped it.
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