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How does making a product more expensive for the consumer, which you acknowledge happens with tariffs, give leverage to the consumer?

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And importers do pay the govt. US Customs collects at points of entry.

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And that costs is absorbed by the consumer

And in some cases the consumer is also the manufacturer of something we're attempting to export which makes our exports less competitive to nations that we do business with

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None of you seem to know the definition of "imminent". Imminent means it's on its way right now. So we should be hearing of the launch within a few minutes. But of course we won't. You all need to stop using words you don't know the meaning of.

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Everything is relative

They're expecting an attack within the next 36 hours

I'd say in the grand scheme of things that's pretty imminent. Rebel is just repeating or paraphrasing what they're saying. No reason to attack him for that.

Trump might be the biggest psyop in American history. We have people arguing to the death that increased taxes on Americans are the way to prosperity. Under no circumstances would these people have ever previously argued this.

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The tariffs are one negotiating tactic and you people are freaking out over something that is currently working

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:rotflmao:

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Says who? What does this even mean? If we get them to the table, negotiate a relatively fair deal and then start working together in reciprocal trade, how in the h e double hockey sticks do you imaging that's WORSE than where we are?

You need help

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Having free trade with Indonesia would be a good thing

As we currently run a trade deficit with them applying tariffs to their imports hurts us more than it helps us.

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And there it is! It took you a while to get to the artificially narrow criteria, aka "strawman." Congrats?

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It's not a strawman. You said it happened in the past.

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It's been done in the past. Besides, we don't need the rest of the world to go into a buying frenzy.

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But to have exports we do need buyers

And perhaps you can show me examples of the past where we had trade surpluses or even an even account balance with poor developing nations

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Even the dem administration didn't reverse the previous iteration of tariffs because they were so lucrative so, you seem to be wrong on this point.

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We weren't slapping random 10% tariffs on the entire world though

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You're implying that if the US repatriates business, that we will be relying on exports. That's not the case.

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We'll still have to rely on at least some exports

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Regardless, there was a time when US products were sought after by most of the world because we made better quality products. Who's to say that can't happen again?

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When you look at countries like Vietnam, Cambodia, Brazil they have annual incomes that average around 7200 a year. Why do you think that these countries will be buying up expensive American goods? They simply can't afford them on any meaningful scale.