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re: If I were 25 today - I'd be a Democrat
Posted on 8/2/26 at 1:08 am to Marquesa
Posted on 8/2/26 at 1:08 am to Marquesa
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The current generation does not have an easy go of it. Education, houses and cars cost a fortune.
This is the part that needs to be discussed. It’s alarming how influential the radical Left has been in convincing even conservative-leaning young people that their economic lot in life is more difficult/less rewarding than it has been for generations past.
It’s crazy.
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Posted on 8/2/26 at 1:15 am to ErectileReptile
Horsecrap. There is plenty of opportunity today if you prepare yourself and keep trying even though times are tough. EVERYONE goes through struggles.
Posted on 8/2/26 at 1:17 am to David_DJS
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Think you’re missing the point. Just working hard has never cut it all the time. Lots of boomers, silencers and greatest gens worked very hard and struggled. That young people are less inclined to work hard today is a different matter, assuming it’s true.
The fruits of hard work are not as great relative to any success level is more so the point. Of course there have to be factors that lead to financial success beyond that though without a doubt.
The desire for working people’s prosperity will always be the driving political motivator in this country.
The understanding that previous Americans of decades passed struggled as well is known and obvious. But that doesn’t negate the desire for things to improve or at least provide a consistent basis for all generations to come. The gap between the haves and have nots continues to widen and drives discontent further.
Posted on 8/2/26 at 2:22 am to ErectileReptile
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The fruits of hard work are not as great relative to any success level is more so the point.
Utter nonsense. Seriously, you typed this without thinking, I hope.
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But that doesn’t negate the desire for things to improve or at least provide a consistent basis for all generations to come
You are a drug addict, crazy, or a hopeless loser if your standard of living isn’t better than past generations.
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The gap between the haves and have nots continues to widen and drives discontent further.
That discontent is rooted in jealousy. It’s not a matter of how well or not well we have it.
Yes, the gap between the haves and have nots as defined today has never been wider, but it’s also true that the standard of living of everybody - rich, middle and poor - has never been better. Our poor live like the middle class does in Western Europe. That wasn’t the case a generation ago.
Would everyone feel better if they lived less well, but the gap between rich and poor was shrunk?
Posted on 8/2/26 at 3:06 am to David_DJS
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Utter nonsense. Seriously, you typed this without thinking, I hope
You’re welcome to bring an actual retort to that.
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You are a drug addict, crazy, or a hopeless loser if your standard of living isn’t better than past generations.
Sure modern creature comforts are cool and make life more bearable. But that again is a deflection from the discussion. The economic struggle of this generation is very real, and there is a crisis regarding affordability and the growing number of working and middle class families who’s struggle to stay above water or even get started is more widespread than any other recent generation outside of the Great Depression. Birth rates are dropping for a reason. Any young person would be heavily inclined to go to the ballot box for anyone who will attempt to make that more sustainable and obtainable for them.
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That discontent is rooted in jealousy
Overly simplistic and incredibly short sighted.
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Yes, the gap between the haves and have nots as defined today has never been wider
Bingo
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Our poor live like the middle class does in Western Europe.
Outside of post Soviet states that’s a laughable statement.
Posted on 8/2/26 at 4:00 am to Marquesa
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At that age you don't have perspective - you don't know history. You probably just became politically aware a few years ago.
I started reading political analysis when I was in elementary school. The school library had National Review by WFB, Jr.
Posted on 8/2/26 at 4:15 am to Marquesa
I knew pretty much at 15 where my political views were planted, even if I wasn’t able to fully explain how or why.
Posted on 8/2/26 at 4:34 am to Marquesa
Some of you need to take the Auburn logo down its disgusting what has happened to some of you. When I graduated from Auburn the job market was terrible, inflation and interest rates were through the roof.
My president, Ronald Reagan said, this is America, we will get out of your way you get off your arse and get to work, and we did.
The whining generation is what we are left with now. Half want the govt to raise them and they other half their parents to support them for the rest of their lives, while they blame them for their cocoon world existence.
My president, Ronald Reagan said, this is America, we will get out of your way you get off your arse and get to work, and we did.
The whining generation is what we are left with now. Half want the govt to raise them and they other half their parents to support them for the rest of their lives, while they blame them for their cocoon world existence.
Posted on 8/2/26 at 4:39 am to Marquesa
Life is hard when you have to pay your own way, kids, and 25 ain't a kid anymore are getting life lessons thrown at em at break neck speed and don't have a clue
Posted on 8/2/26 at 5:17 am to Marquesa
a 25 I got married and was working my arse off, so very conservative.Reagan was prez. At 18 I worked on Reagan's 76 primary campaign
Posted on 8/2/26 at 6:00 am to ErectileReptile
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Just working hard doesn’t cut it today.
But that’s just not true. I know dozens of young people, and out of all of them there are about three who are not doing well. Those three are lazy AF. The rest are raising families, owning homes and going on nice vacations.
If you choose a young person who is really struggling then one of three things will be true: He will be hopelessly stupid; he will be very unlucky; or he will be doing okay, but his expectations will be for a much better lifestyle than the ones he idealizes in previous generations.
Posted on 8/2/26 at 6:04 am to Marquesa
They've poisoned the education system where civics has become social grievance and economics is taught as someone else is rich therefore you can't be.
Posted on 8/2/26 at 6:16 am to dalefla
If you were 25 today and align Democrat I's still call you are a weird, dumb, mentally unstable FREAK
Posted on 8/2/26 at 6:28 am to Marquesa
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If I were 25 today - I'd be a Democrat
I know a lot of people say that, but I have not been a democrat or liberal for any moment of my life. Maybe it’s growing up in the height of the Cold War, maybe it’s having to do everything on my own my entire life I don’t know what it is, but I’ve not spent a moment thinking anything related to the Democrat ideas was worthwhile.
Posted on 8/2/26 at 6:39 am to Marquesa
The only valid excuse I can come up with for being an idiot (or pretending to be an idiot) as a young person is to appease teachers/professors to get grades.
They are easily foolable though. Trust me.
They are easily foolable though. Trust me.
Posted on 8/2/26 at 6:42 am to Marquesa
Pretty solid assessment, M. It may well be that the Constitutional Republic Meritocracy version has become obsolete and dysfunctional for the current citizenry. Many hold Idealistic and Utopian beliefs, as most honest people at that age should. And many are simply too psychologically inept to even be employable. One cannot vote that away. It’s over my head to imagine a fix.
And the Globalist Dem DEI Communist will indeed be happy to take the reins of power.
When is the Tigers first game? Very curious to see what Kiffin brings to the field.
And the Globalist Dem DEI Communist will indeed be happy to take the reins of power.
When is the Tigers first game? Very curious to see what Kiffin brings to the field.
Posted on 8/2/26 at 6:50 am to ErectileReptile
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The fruits of hard work are not as great relative to any success level is more so the point. Of course there have to be factors t
Nonsense.
Spending habits.
Posted on 8/2/26 at 7:10 am to ErectileReptile
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Bingo
You are hung up on income and wealth disparities. I'm focused on standards of living.
The OP started this thread with a statement that went roughly - "young people have it harder than generations before them because cars and houses are more expensive, and that's why it isn't crazy for them to think voting Dem is the way to go" - and my argument is that young people today have a better standard of living than the generations that supposedly had it easier, and that affordability struggles as/when they happen are nothing new. Inflation isn't a new phenomena, and in fact post-Covid cumulative inflation is less than half that of the same number of years (that were the worst) during the shitty inflation era of the 70's.
The middle class family today lives better than the middle class family 50 years ago. The working poor family today lives better than the working poor family 50 years ago. "Better" being those creature comforts - bigger/nicer home, nicer/more reliable vehicles, entertainment, etc - that I think you acknowledged.
So I'll ask again - would you be happier with a step down in standard of living for everybody if it came with a substantial drop in income/wealth disparities?
This post was edited on 8/2/26 at 7:12 am
Posted on 8/2/26 at 7:12 am to Marquesa
When I went to LSU back in the late 90's/early 00's, I was surrounded by normal hard working people eager to make it in life as we all know.
I go to grad school in NYC and some of the classes were outsourced to another college due to location and accommodation of the white collars. It was at Pace University in the financial district. You should have seen the propaganda flyers and posters throughout the building. They seemed to just be going to college as a hobby.
Unfortunately that is what a lot of colleges/universities are like.
I think a child that comes from a good family support system will always stay level headed. Its OK to have different views but man we have all seen the extremes.
I worked in a profession with my peers as blue dog Democrats. They are indeed obsessed with rules and control, especially with the ones who were moderately liberal.
I go to grad school in NYC and some of the classes were outsourced to another college due to location and accommodation of the white collars. It was at Pace University in the financial district. You should have seen the propaganda flyers and posters throughout the building. They seemed to just be going to college as a hobby.
Unfortunately that is what a lot of colleges/universities are like.
I think a child that comes from a good family support system will always stay level headed. Its OK to have different views but man we have all seen the extremes.
I worked in a profession with my peers as blue dog Democrats. They are indeed obsessed with rules and control, especially with the ones who were moderately liberal.
This post was edited on 8/2/26 at 7:15 am
Posted on 8/2/26 at 7:12 am to David_DJS
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my argument is that young people today have a better standard of living than the generations that supposedly had it easier,
Because of the internet? You’re suggesting it shouldn’t matter that someone has to work 3 jobs to afford rent because they can scroll TikTok.
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