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re: US fertility rate plummets by a quarter in less than 20 years

Posted on 9/18/26 at 2:47 pm to
Posted by DesScorp
Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
10786 posts
Posted on 9/18/26 at 2:47 pm to
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COVID vax doing work


Feminism doing work. And its biggest weapons: the pill, no-fault divorce, and social media.

Future history books might well regard the pill as the doomsday weapon that destroyed Western and Westernized industrial civilization. The white birthrate in the US fell almost immediately after its introduction. By the late 70’s white US births were under replacement level. And Korea and Japan are now both under .75 births per couple. 4/5ths of Europe is pretty close to those numbers. Our enlightened, advanced civilization is a suicide machine.

The future belongs to those who show up.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
40963 posts
Posted on 9/18/26 at 3:28 pm to
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Give the producers in this country a significant tax rebate (+$15k), and the number of births from desirables would skyrocket.



Raising FSA limits would help

$7500 might cover summer camps
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
13216 posts
Posted on 9/18/26 at 3:34 pm to
I’m a young baw.

Wife and I are doing our part. Just had our first. Hopefully plenty more to come
Posted by tigergirl10
Member since Jul 2019
10785 posts
Posted on 9/18/26 at 5:27 pm to
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In 2017, the average weight of American woman surpassed 170lbs for the first time.
What about men? At least women gained weight during pregnancy. What’s men’s excuse?
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
78464 posts
Posted on 9/18/26 at 5:30 pm to
200 lbs for men.

Average female BMI is higher than males for the first time ever though.
quote:

At least women gained weight during pregnancy.
Based on the OP, you women can’t use pregnancy as an excuse.

This post was edited on 9/18/26 at 5:31 pm
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
78464 posts
Posted on 9/18/26 at 5:34 pm to
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Give the producers in this country a significant tax rebate (+$15k), and the number of births from desirables would skyrocket.
Have a child and not on welfare, your federal tax burden should be halved.

2 children, 75%.

3 or more children, 100%.

You have to fully support them without any form of assistance.
Posted by Bamafig
Member since Nov 2018
7054 posts
Posted on 9/18/26 at 5:42 pm to
If men can get pregnant nowadays, in addition to women, why is the rate pummeling? We should be setting records! Help me understand.
Posted by Crescent Connection
Member since Jun 2008
2456 posts
Posted on 9/18/26 at 5:44 pm to
We have 4. Ages 14, 9, 7, and 5. I wish we could have a 5th, but my wife had 4 c-sections and her OBGYN doctor told her she would be too high risk for a 5th. We're both working parents and don't have immediate help nearby (her parents 1 hour way and mine are 2.5 hours away). It's very busy and constant chaos, but we wouldn't have it any other way. Our kids are our world, and they will have purpose on this earth as adults. We send them to private school and vacation as much as financially possible. It's worth all the hours working to provide them that luxury. And we're not OT baller rich either.

If your hesitant because you don't think you can financially afford kids or that you will need help, my advice is that you will find a way to make it work. And it's worth it. In 13-14 years, we would potentially be empty nesters, but we won't be alone when we're in our 60s/70s and older.
Posted by LSUBFA83
Member since May 2012
4399 posts
Posted on 9/18/26 at 6:33 pm to
Here's what I don't understand. Every species on Earth is programmed to pursue certain things: food, comfort and procreation. What the hell is happening to basically make humans suicidal?
Posted by UltimaParadox
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2008
53346 posts
Posted on 9/18/26 at 6:36 pm to
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Future history books might well regard the pill as the doomsday weapon that destroyed Western and Westernized industrial civilization


Birth rates fell below way below replacement rate before the pill was even introduced.

The boomer generation is the anomaly. Birth rates have been trending down in America for 100 years
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
25374 posts
Posted on 9/18/26 at 6:55 pm to
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Had I it to do over again, I’d have more.


Wish I had met my wife earlier. I think I would have been supportive of having four or five.

I never would have considered that many until having some.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
84184 posts
Posted on 9/18/26 at 6:58 pm to
It's like we are in that mouse paradise experiment back in the 1960s.
This post was edited on 9/18/26 at 9:01 pm
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
24906 posts
Posted on 9/18/26 at 7:00 pm to
My daughter is at three with one in the oven.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
42151 posts
Posted on 9/18/26 at 7:07 pm to
Feminism raises it's ugly head yet again.
Posted by Shorts Guy
BR
Member since Dec 2023
1094 posts
Posted on 9/18/26 at 9:21 pm to
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anecdotally there seems to be one demographic this does not apply to


Mormons, yes.
Posted by ConnectTheDots
Member since May 2026
250 posts
Posted on 9/18/26 at 9:28 pm to
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Here's what I don't understand. Every species on Earth is programmed to pursue certain things: food, comfort and procreation. What the hell is happening to basically make humans suicidal?


You ever seen an animal with a smart phone and social media accounts?
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
22604 posts
Posted on 9/18/26 at 9:39 pm to
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Think hard… that window is closing. Plenty of people make it work in their late 30s.

You want to know why rates of things like Autism have increased? Age of the parents is one reason. It’s not the only reason but older women have more problems with children and disabilities.
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
26605 posts
Posted on 9/18/26 at 9:41 pm to
At the peak how much were you spending for four kids in private school/daycare? 40k?
This post was edited on 9/18/26 at 9:42 pm
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
151900 posts
Posted on 9/18/26 at 9:42 pm to
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Id love to have more kids. Unfortunately can only afford two with both thr wife and I working. We could afford 3 but we are both almost 40.
do it

We didn’t know how we would afford one, then even more so number two, and so on for number 3. But it ends up working.

Kids are the most loveable assholes you could ever hangout with
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
66133 posts
Posted on 9/18/26 at 10:27 pm to
Don’t recommend having kids in your 40’s, but both me and my wife were mid 40’s with our last one, nothing wrong with our fertility. Had 2 kids about to graduate high school and looking forward to some down time, and we decided to go to Europe for a vacation, on the pill. Well, we came back with a cute little souvenir. So now I’m 57 with a 12 year old. Now, she’s a barrel of monkeys, and has me wrapped, but that pregnancy was hard at that age on the wife, so much better when your younger
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