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Scruffy
| Favorite team: | USA |
| Location: | Kansas City |
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| Occupation: | Chemical Engineer |
| Number of Posts: | 76789 |
| Registered on: | 7/22/2011 |
| Online Status: | Not Online |
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re: Everyone Hates Data Centers it is almost universal
Posted by Scruffy on 2/24/26 at 10:06 am to YouKnowImRight
quote:True, but unlike those advances in tech, the next iteration wasn’t projected to physically replace the worker itself.
Horse people hated automobiles. Wood people hated steel mills. It's the next iteration of technology and there will always be a segment of the population that doesn't want change and will grasp at any reason to resist.
That is the rub.
That is the reason I have such reservations regarding AI.
re: Everyone Hates Data Centers it is almost universal
Posted by Scruffy on 2/24/26 at 10:03 am to fightin tigers
quote:
That's not even what the article said but that hasn't slowed you down.
quote::confused:
Electricity costs for areas near data centers increased by as much as 267% compared to five years ago, a Bloomberg News analysis found last year.
Yes, I am sure those who will lose their jobs/get replaced by AI and those who have seen their electricity bills increase upwards of 267% will take great solace in what you have posted.
I know I will.
I know I will.
quote:If you can guarantee that the gain outshines the cost, sure.
The product that Data Centers are producing is changing the world at this very second. People will get over the Data Centers once construction builds out but it is needed for our civilization to take the next steps forward.
Here is a clip from an article on data center electricity cost impact from January.
quote:
Residential electricity rates were up 5.2% in October from the same time in 2024, according to the monthly electricity report released by the Energy Information Administration. Electricity costs for areas near data centers increased by as much as 267% compared to five years ago, a Bloomberg News analysis found last year.
Here is a quote from an article referencing the energy demand of these centers.
quote:That was in 2023. What percentage of all electricity will be consumed by data centers by 2030?
But AI is particularly energy-hungry, requiring enormous amounts of computing power compared to previous technologies, says Peskoe. (One study from MIT estimated that 4.4% of all electricity in the U.S. was consumed by data centers in 2023.)
The electricity demand will continue to rise due to the construction of these centers and, unless you can guarantee that the corporations building them will solely eat the cost, we will suffer the increase in costs in an already more expensive world.
re: Floyd Mayweather vs Manny Pacquiao 2 fight set in Sept 2026. Floyd unretires after 9 years
Posted by Scruffy on 2/24/26 at 8:23 am to RelicBatches86
That first fight between those two is one of the main reasons I will never watch Mayweather again.
More boring than watching paint dry.
More boring than watching paint dry.
This is what I always thought the USSR workers were like.
:lol:
:lol:
re: 3 Data Centers to be built in north Louisiana?
Posted by Scruffy on 2/23/26 at 7:17 pm to fightin tigers
quote:Agreed.
What type of tech matters
re: 3 Data Centers to be built in north Louisiana?
Posted by Scruffy on 2/23/26 at 7:13 pm to fightin tigers
quote:Sure, but LA has had substantial issues with tech hiring in the past.
Im laughing because people will go where the jobs are. South Louisiana is a hotbed for some of the greatest engineering minds because that is where the work is.
Multiple tech companies have left LA and meeting hiring expectations had been a factor for all of them.
And LA is a hotbed for “certain types” of engineering.
“Tech” isn’t exactly LA’s forte.
quote:I still do on occasion.
You should go back to referring to yourself in third person.
quote:I know.
That was so cool and funny.
I feel like you are getting heated over this discussion.
Someone’s livelihood is reliant on these centers?
You still didn’t tell me where the one you live by is being built.
There is a massive difference between “data center outside of Austin” and “data center in St. Tammany Parish”.
One will get a campus, one will not.
LA will not get multi-hundred job campuses. Sorry, they could never convince that number of engineers and staff to move there and the staff isn’t coming from the local populace.
quote:And this one is where?
The one being built a few miles from my house is so big it will blow your mind.
quote:So, every source that is pro-data center is incorrect on their estimate of average staffing numbers?
Regardless, the total of permanent jobs created by all these things will exceed 150, like your stupid arse said.
Scruffy was -8 years old.
re: I'm proud of the U.S.A. Men's Hockey team, but..
Posted by Scruffy on 2/23/26 at 6:14 pm to justaniceguy
quote:Russia is 3rd in hockey medals behind the USA and Canada.
I may not know puck, but you really don’t know puck.
:confused:
Excluding them is dumb.
re: 3 Data Centers to be built in north Louisiana?
Posted by Scruffy on 2/23/26 at 5:54 pm to Oilfieldbiology
quote:Love this idea.
Honestly the data centers should build their own power plants next to their centers and sell energy back to the state. Thus would allow best for everyone in my opinion.
quote:Look up the expected staffing numbers for these buildings once built.
Lmao. I'm not a pro data center guy by any means, but you might want to stfu if you don't know what you're talking about
These aren’t paper mills that used to support towns in the past.
The staffing is minimal.
If you have any info to counter that, please enlighten me.
re: 3 Data Centers to be built in north Louisiana?
Posted by Scruffy on 2/23/26 at 4:08 pm to fightin tigers
quote:Exactly.
Most are just against data centers taking more than they pay for.
I would have zero issues with this if these data centers were paying for their own power stations and infrastructure and the impact on the surrounding citizens was guaranteed to be either zero or positive.
We all know that isn’t the case.
I view these situations in the same light as the building of new sports arenas.
Massive multi-billion dollar corporations demand that the citizens fork over the money to build them, while they receive almost all of the profit.
That parasitic relationship needs to end.
re: 3 Data Centers to be built in north Louisiana?
Posted by Scruffy on 2/23/26 at 4:05 pm to fightin tigers
quote:100%
Elections have consequences and we keep electing people who run on bending over for big business.
Hence why it is almost assured that the LA taxpayer will get the shaft in this deal.
re: 3 Data Centers to be built in north Louisiana?
Posted by Scruffy on 2/23/26 at 3:32 pm to fightin tigers
quote:You think that is a “main goal” of the politicians in LA?
That should be a main goal.
:lol:
re: 3 Data Centers to be built in north Louisiana?
Posted by Scruffy on 2/23/26 at 3:22 pm to fightin tigers
quote:Based on the information released by groups who support the building of these centers.
Where do you people get this info from?
:dunno:
The number of staff pretty much every site references is between 8 and 50, depending solely on size (MW) of the data center.
I gave the 3 centers the max size output and the average staffing.
That would be ~150 jobs statewide.
These data centers will be smaller than that though, so it will be less than 150 in reality.
In all honesty, I have zero issue with the building of these centers IF you can guarantee that they will not increase the electricity bill of the surrounding citizens.
quote:The highest number of long term jobs that will be generated STATEWIDE is ~150, based on the higher end of average number of employees for data centers.
Half the people say it’s going to create good jobs and other half say it doesn’t and will make electricity cost rise. Everything is so damn political I don’t know what to believe.
Once built, they on average do not generate many jobs.
re: 3 Data Centers to be built in north Louisiana?
Posted by Scruffy on 2/23/26 at 3:03 pm to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
quote:And the public will be forced to carry the cost of running these centers through their electricity bills, not the corporations building them.
Data centers are needed for this.
All while bringing in few jobs for the areas.
Seems super beneficial.
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