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Horse people hated automobiles. Wood people hated steel mills. It's the next iteration of technology and there will always be a segment of the population that doesn't want change and will grasp at any reason to resist.
True, but unlike those advances in tech, the next iteration wasn’t projected to physically replace the worker itself.

That is the rub.

That is the reason I have such reservations regarding AI.
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That's not even what the article said but that hasn't slowed you down.
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Electricity costs for areas near data centers increased by as much as 267% compared to five years ago, a Bloomberg News analysis found last year.
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Yes, I am sure those who will lose their jobs/get replaced by AI and those who have seen their electricity bills increase upwards of 267% will take great solace in what you have posted.

I know I will.
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The product that Data Centers are producing is changing the world at this very second. People will get over the Data Centers once construction builds out but it is needed for our civilization to take the next steps forward.
If you can guarantee that the gain outshines the cost, sure.

Here is a clip from an article on data center electricity cost impact from January.

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Residential electricity rates were up 5.2% in October from the same time in 2024, according to the monthly electricity report released by the Energy Information Administration. Electricity costs for areas near data centers increased by as much as 267% compared to five years ago, a Bloomberg News analysis found last year.

Here is a quote from an article referencing the energy demand of these centers.
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But AI is particularly energy-hungry, requiring enormous amounts of computing power compared to previous technologies, says Peskoe. (One study from MIT estimated that 4.4% of all electricity in the U.S. was consumed by data centers in 2023.)
That was in 2023. What percentage of all electricity will be consumed by data centers by 2030?

The electricity demand will continue to rise due to the construction of these centers and, unless you can guarantee that the corporations building them will solely eat the cost, we will suffer the increase in costs in an already more expensive world.
That first fight between those two is one of the main reasons I will never watch Mayweather again.

More boring than watching paint dry.
This is what I always thought the USSR workers were like.

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What type of tech matters
Agreed.
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Im laughing because people will go where the jobs are. South Louisiana is a hotbed for some of the greatest engineering minds because that is where the work is.
Sure, but LA has had substantial issues with tech hiring in the past.

Multiple tech companies have left LA and meeting hiring expectations had been a factor for all of them.

And LA is a hotbed for “certain types” of engineering.

“Tech” isn’t exactly LA’s forte.
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You should go back to referring to yourself in third person.
I still do on occasion.
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That was so cool and funny.
I know.

I feel like you are getting heated over this discussion.

Someone’s livelihood is reliant on these centers?

You still didn’t tell me where the one you live by is being built.

There is a massive difference between “data center outside of Austin” and “data center in St. Tammany Parish”.

One will get a campus, one will not.

LA will not get multi-hundred job campuses. Sorry, they could never convince that number of engineers and staff to move there and the staff isn’t coming from the local populace.
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The one being built a few miles from my house is so big it will blow your mind.
And this one is where?
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Regardless, the total of permanent jobs created by all these things will exceed 150, like your stupid arse said.
So, every source that is pro-data center is incorrect on their estimate of average staffing numbers?
Scruffy was -8 years old.
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I may not know puck, but you really don’t know puck.
Russia is 3rd in hockey medals behind the USA and Canada.

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Honestly the data centers should build their own power plants next to their centers and sell energy back to the state. Thus would allow best for everyone in my opinion.
Love this idea.
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Lmao. I'm not a pro data center guy by any means, but you might want to stfu if you don't know what you're talking about
Look up the expected staffing numbers for these buildings once built.

These aren’t paper mills that used to support towns in the past.

The staffing is minimal.

If you have any info to counter that, please enlighten me.
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Most are just against data centers taking more than they pay for.
Exactly.

I would have zero issues with this if these data centers were paying for their own power stations and infrastructure and the impact on the surrounding citizens was guaranteed to be either zero or positive.

We all know that isn’t the case.

I view these situations in the same light as the building of new sports arenas.

Massive multi-billion dollar corporations demand that the citizens fork over the money to build them, while they receive almost all of the profit.

That parasitic relationship needs to end.
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Elections have consequences and we keep electing people who run on bending over for big business.
100%

Hence why it is almost assured that the LA taxpayer will get the shaft in this deal.
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That should be a main goal.
You think that is a “main goal” of the politicians in LA?

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Where do you people get this info from?
Based on the information released by groups who support the building of these centers.

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The number of staff pretty much every site references is between 8 and 50, depending solely on size (MW) of the data center.

I gave the 3 centers the max size output and the average staffing.

That would be ~150 jobs statewide.

These data centers will be smaller than that though, so it will be less than 150 in reality.

In all honesty, I have zero issue with the building of these centers IF you can guarantee that they will not increase the electricity bill of the surrounding citizens.
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Half the people say it’s going to create good jobs and other half say it doesn’t and will make electricity cost rise. Everything is so damn political I don’t know what to believe.
The highest number of long term jobs that will be generated STATEWIDE is ~150, based on the higher end of average number of employees for data centers.

Once built, they on average do not generate many jobs.
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Data centers are needed for this.
And the public will be forced to carry the cost of running these centers through their electricity bills, not the corporations building them.

All while bringing in few jobs for the areas.

Seems super beneficial.