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re: Teen Tased By Trooper On Girlfriend's Porch
Posted on 6/23/21 at 11:49 am to Saint Alfonzo
Posted on 6/23/21 at 11:49 am to Saint Alfonzo
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You can ply us with your rape and murder fantasies over and over, that isn't true either.
So, it NEVER happens when someone goes into someone else's backyard, enters through a back window or door (to be out of the front of the house where people could see him), and then rapes and/or murders the occupants?
In your completely F*CKED UP mind that NEVER happens, right?
And, when a cop sees someone duck into someone's backyard upon seeing him patrolling the neighborhood (while wearing all black and a hoodie in the summer), he's suppose to just recognize that such behavior is perfectly normal and then just go on his way without investigating, right?
And, YES, from the facts we were given, the cop had EVERY F*CKING REASON TO BELIEVE that the kid was "ducking" into the backyard because he texted his girlfriend that he saw the cop, and then went into the backyard AFTER seeing the cop patrolling the neighborhood.
Normal people don't duck behind hedges to go into a backyard to enter someone's home. What percent of the population do you think does that? And, is it your retarded belief that cops should just accept that as normal f*cking behavior.
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Posted on 6/23/21 at 11:49 am to kjp811
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sudden attack
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active resistance
I don't remember... was either of those on the video?
Posted on 6/23/21 at 11:49 am to kjp811
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FHP policy states: “The use of a CEW (conducted electrical weapon) is authorized and may be an appropriate response in the case of a sudden attack, or when ‘active resistance’ or greater is offered by a subject who is about to be taken into custody for any reason.”
Presumably sudden attack includes being moments away from overwhelmed by scores of armed, nefarious, lurking figures who've just been activated by text message. So cop should be GTG
Posted on 6/23/21 at 11:53 am to WDE24
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WTF is wrong with you people?
People who find pleasure in a cop abusing citizens can often be connected to the lack of control they have in their own lives. They feel a need for old testament levels of justice because they themselves feel cucked by life and it gives them a warm happy feeling that "someone" is out there dispensing beatdowns.
Posted on 6/23/21 at 11:54 am to Pettifogger
i am normally on the side of the cops even though i hate cops in general as a profession, but frick this cop. He 100% could have simply said ok, if you are meeting your GF here, have her come outside. there was never a threat to him, so no need to taze.
Now the kid is a stupid frick, you comply and you sort it our after that.
cop deserves to be fired, kid needs to be sat down and explained.
now to you stupid fricks saying he should have just complied....that is true, but that does not give the cop the right to taze and he has no reason to arrest. If he wanted to sit him down and get the homeowner out there or the GF to clear it up.
COPS DO NOT HAVE FREE REIGN TO GO AND ARREST FOR WHATEVER THEY DEEM A CRIME!!
frick that cop with his whole "you think you can do whatever you want, but you are wrong"
that statement itself should get that stupid frick fired!! He is the problem with LE.
Now the kid is a stupid frick, you comply and you sort it our after that.
cop deserves to be fired, kid needs to be sat down and explained.
now to you stupid fricks saying he should have just complied....that is true, but that does not give the cop the right to taze and he has no reason to arrest. If he wanted to sit him down and get the homeowner out there or the GF to clear it up.
COPS DO NOT HAVE FREE REIGN TO GO AND ARREST FOR WHATEVER THEY DEEM A CRIME!!
frick that cop with his whole "you think you can do whatever you want, but you are wrong"
that statement itself should get that stupid frick fired!! He is the problem with LE.
Posted on 6/23/21 at 11:55 am to JDPndahizzy
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active resistance
I don't remember... was either of those on the video?
"Put your hands behind your back."
"frick YOU" (while continuing to text SOMEONE, SOMEWHERE)
"Put your hands behind you back."'
"I didndu nuffin!" (while continuing to text SOMEONE, SOMEWHERE)
Sounds like "OR ... active resistance" to me.
Posted on 6/23/21 at 11:56 am to OweO
Teen was dumb, what cop did was even dumber. Cop should be liable for escalation and whatever injuries his actions caused.
Posted on 6/23/21 at 11:56 am to OweO
Yeah sorry- fire the cop if investigation shows this to be the case.
I support cops completely but if this is accurate this dude doesn’t need to be carrying a gun.
I support cops completely but if this is accurate this dude doesn’t need to be carrying a gun.
Posted on 6/23/21 at 11:57 am to WDE24
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cops don’t have a right to require people to stop and identify without some articulable reasonable suspicion at least.
This was not a random stop and identify situation. The cop had a suspicion based on what he observed. He did his duty. Some of you are up in the air because it involved an AA kid and that’s why it’s getting play. One’s ethnicity matters not a damn. If a cop tells you to do something (legal, for those who are hysterical) you damn well better comply.
This post was edited on 6/23/21 at 11:58 am
Posted on 6/23/21 at 11:57 am to MMauler
You sound completely rational
Posted on 6/23/21 at 11:57 am to MMauler
Sounds like you don't know what active resistance means.
Posted on 6/23/21 at 11:57 am to Masterag
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liable for escalation and whatever injuries his actions caused.
his lawyer should be able to parlay slamming into that fire pit into a nice college fund
Posted on 6/23/21 at 11:58 am to MMauler
quote:How the frick did you get that from what I said?
So, NOW, you want all cops to ignore suspicious looking characters who duck into other people's backyards upon seeing a cop patrolling a neighborhood because ducking a cop and entering through someone's backyard MIGHT be the way the person always takes to go into a house -- instead of going to the front door and knocking like 99.99999% of the human f*cking population.
Reading comprehension man, it's fundamental to message boards. In fact, what you quoted literally had nothing to do with what the cop should have done and everything to do with what the kid was doing, and your reply to me was telling me I wanted the cop to do? Ugh boy.
Posted on 6/23/21 at 11:58 am to MMauler
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So, it NEVER happens when someone goes into someone else's backyard, enters through a back window or door (to be out of the front of the house where people could see him), and then rapes and/or murders the occupants?
All of this is irrelevant. Your paranoia has nothing to with the facts.
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And, when a cop sees someone duck into someone's backyard upon seeing him patrolling the neighborhood (while wearing all black and a hoodie in the summer), he's suppose to just recognize that such behavior is perfectly normal and then just go on his way without investigating, right?
He didn't "duck" into anything, he went into his girlfriend's backyard, a place he has permission to be. Black clothing isn't a crime nor is it probable cause.
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And, YES, from the facts we were given, the cop had EVERY F*CKING REASON TO BELIEVE that the kid was "ducking" into the backyard because he texted his girlfriend that he saw the cop, and then went into the backyard AFTER seeing the cop patrolling the neighborhood. Normal people don't duck behind hedges to go into a backyard to enter someone's home. What percent of the population do you think does that? And, is it your retarded belief that cops should just accept that as normal f*cking behavior.
No, the cop was being a paranoid a-hole cop just like you're being a paranoid a-hole poster.
Posted on 6/23/21 at 11:59 am to lsu777
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there was never a threat to him,
HOW IN THE EVER LIVING F*CK DO YOU THAT?
Who the f*ck was he texting? How in the f*ck does the cop know who he's texting? Does he have a gun in that hoodie? Is there an accomplice inside the house or in the bushes who has a gun THAT HE'S THEN TEXTING?
It's very easy to play Monday morning quarterback, but there was no f*cking way for the cop to know if that kid dressed like your typical home invader (complete with hoodie in the middle of summer) was a threat to his life.
Posted on 6/23/21 at 11:59 am to MMauler
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ACTIVE RESISTANCE – A subject’s use of physically evasive movements directed toward the member. Examples include, but are not limited to: bracing, tensing, or pushing or pulling to prevent the member from establishing control over the subject
Going to have to add texting to their definitions
Posted on 6/23/21 at 12:00 pm to OweO
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I didn’t do nothing
Well, you used a double negative.... so ya did do something.
Posted on 6/23/21 at 12:01 pm to OweO
If the officer's story is true, I get why he'd think this was a "suspicious person." If the kid's version is true, then the officer overreated. The officer could have approached the kid better, and the kid could have responded better.
Since we don't know exactly what happened and the truth lies somewhere in the middle, I'll say they are both to blame (more the officer than the kid IMO).
Either way, that cop is lucky the kid falling onto that stone firepit didn't cause more damage. That looked like it could've been pretty bad at first.
All that aside, why in the world would this kid need to spend 21 days in custody (per the video)?
Since we don't know exactly what happened and the truth lies somewhere in the middle, I'll say they are both to blame (more the officer than the kid IMO).
Either way, that cop is lucky the kid falling onto that stone firepit didn't cause more damage. That looked like it could've been pretty bad at first.
All that aside, why in the world would this kid need to spend 21 days in custody (per the video)?
This post was edited on 6/23/21 at 12:04 pm
Posted on 6/23/21 at 12:04 pm to MMauler
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Who the f*ck was he texting? How in the f*ck does the cop know who he's texting? Does he have a gun in that hoodie? Is there an accomplice inside the house or in the bushes who has a gun THAT HE'S THEN TEXTING?
I mean you're right. I assumed he was calling in an airstrike.
Posted on 6/23/21 at 12:04 pm to lsu777
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COPS DO NOT HAVE FREE REIGN TO GO AND ARREST FOR WHATEVER THEY DEEM A CRIME!!
YES THEY frickING DO! That’s what we pay them to do. The problem comes when people like the kid don’t comply. It is the responsibility of the cop to neutralize a potential threat. How he does it is his prerogative based upon his observations. This cop chose the taser. He is not required to appease the suspect.
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