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re: Teen Tased By Trooper On Girlfriend's Porch

Posted on 6/25/21 at 7:02 am to
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 6/25/21 at 7:02 am to
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I’m not reading this entire thread but what’s the lie in his report?


The report says that the officer couldn’t see the kids hands and that he thought he could have a weapon.


His hands are clearly visible during their entire confrontation.
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
33050 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 7:13 am to
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Did you miss that he ran?

It's irrelevant. Cops don't get to detain or identify people (in most states) because they look suspicious without any inclination of a crime being committed.

You don't get to detain suspicious people and then look for a crime.
Posted by The Third Leg
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Member since May 2014
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Posted on 6/25/21 at 7:24 am to
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It's irrelevant. Cops don't get to detain or identify people (in most states) because they look suspicious without any inclination of a crime being committed.

I’m guessing most of today’s judges would side with the police on this instance meeting the requirements for a terry stop.

Cop is liar, we know that. The kid probably cut through the side yard to go to the back yard when the cop saw him—bad timing and cop says the kid saw him and ran, because he has racial biases and assumed the black kid up to no good.
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
33050 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 7:28 am to
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I’m guessing most of today’s judges would side with the police on this instance meeting the requirements for a terry stop.

I'm not so sure because
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Cop is liar, we know that.

Once the video disproves the report, any aspect of the report is suspect. Him "darting through the bushes" was very likely not that considering he was going to his destination.
Posted by LSUAngelHere1
Watson
Member since Jan 2018
10137 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 7:45 am to
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It is cool if people just refuse to comply as long as they are not acting aggressive? So as long as I don't appear threatening I can ignore anything cops say to me?

Yes, you can. You have every right to resist unlawful arrest, including using deadly force. Bootlickers don’t even know their rights. It’s no wonder our freedoms continue to erode.
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 6/25/21 at 7:46 am to
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Once the video disproves the report, any aspect of the report is suspect. Him "darting through the bushes" was very likely not that considering he was going to his destination.


Im sure this house has other cameras, probably even one on the side of the house.

Im interested to see what it shows.
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
33050 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 7:50 am to
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You have every right to resist unlawful arrest,

Yes
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including using deadly force.

No... God no. Please don't promulgate this nonsense.
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
38283 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 7:53 am to
"Stop resisting"

The cops get out of jail free card. "But he was resisting!"
Posted by LSUAngelHere1
Watson
Member since Jan 2018
10137 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 8:15 am to
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Yes, the cop does. Some of you people are fricking insane in your ignorance. We live in a society where police keep the order and are legally empowered to do so. Jesus.

I think you have America confused with Nazi Germany.
Posted by LSUAngelHere1
Watson
Member since Jan 2018
10137 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 8:24 am to
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Nah. I steer clear of cops in my everyday life. It's pretty easy to do by following laws and not putting myself in sketchy situations.

Well lucky for you a cop never followed you to the backdoor of your friend’s home and tased you. Just bc it hasn’t happened to you doesn’t mean it can’t happen to you or someone you love in the future. I’ll never understand why people try to justify the unjustifiable.
This post was edited on 6/25/21 at 8:25 am
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54853 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 8:35 am to
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The report says that the officer couldn’t see the kids hands and that he thought he could have a weapon.
To be clear, the report was later amended to add that “fact.” Likely once it was realized the initial report didn’t include any justification for use of the tazer. Unfortunately for the Trooper, there was security video that proves he lied.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
21128 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 8:36 am to
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You have every right to resist unlawful arrest,


Yes

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including using deadly force.


No... God no. Please don't promulgate this nonsense.

You may want to check out this Indiana statute that 100% legalizes using deadly force vs law enforcement, in certain situations
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
33050 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 8:44 am to
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in certain situations

Yes. When cops kick in your door at 2am and it's the wrong house, you're protected.

When you're standing on your phone and the cop wrongly asks you to id, no.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
21128 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 9:13 am to
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When you're standing on your phone and the cop wrongly asks you to id, no.

But you can after they bogusly decide to use deadly force against you that is ultimately where this situation ended up, right?
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
33050 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 9:15 am to
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But you can after they bogusly decide to use deadly force against you
sure.
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that is ultimately where this situation ended up, right?
no
Posted by lotik
Member since Jul 2018
530 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 9:23 am to
Found some clarification on the 21-day stay in juvie:

"Jack Rodeman is currently in a detention center, being held for 21 days. He was on probation for a previous, unrelated incident in which he and a friend took a golf cart from a nearby golf course for a joy ride. Because he was on probation, the current arrest resulted in the 21-day detention, his lawyer confirmed."
Posted by USMEagles
Member since Jan 2018
11811 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 9:27 am to
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The report says that the officer couldn’t see the kids hands and that he thought he could have a weapon.


This is like in South Park when those two hillbillies want to perforate some poor protected animal, so they shout "he's comin' right at us!" and unleash a hail of shrapnel on it.
Posted by TK421
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2011
10420 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 10:17 am to
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I’ll never understand why people try to justify the unjustifiable.


It's pretty easy to understand once you consider the typical ethnicity in these cases.
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