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Hold on I thought Putin controlled Trump?

I don't know, go start a thread and ask the actual people who said Putin controls Trump, not me.

Anyway back on topic, Israel very very obviously tells Trump what to do and he does it. See the Iran War...There isn't a sane and logical person in this world that thinks we'd be in that war right now if not for Israel, not a one.

re: Zion still a centerpiece?

Posted by shel311 on 5/21/26 at 3:04 pm to
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zion has trended in a better direction.
What?

He's played in 6 seasons. This is his 2nd worst season he's played in.


He's MUCH worse right now than he was in year 2 at 20 years old. It's not even close.

He's regressed...a lot.

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zion sucks and doesnt help us win

Zion played 62 games. We were outscored when he was on court.

We were 22-40 in games Zion played.
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but then think we going to get any value for him
It was reported we tried to secretly shop him during last season but he had no value.
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if we had let him walk for nothing then pelicans aren't replacing him in fa with any sort of better talent, nobody wants to play here.

If a max player doesn't help you win and has no trade value, then cutting him when you have the chance to do so with non guaranteed salary, then it is necessary to do.

Additionally, for 2026-2027, we are currently at $196mil. IF we dropped Zion's $45 mil, we are at $151 mil. The cap that season is projected at $165 million and luxury tax $201 million. The idea that Zion's $45mil being gone doesn't help us get under a cap and tax is just factually incorrect.

Now do the same excercise for 2027-2028, and you're talking about being $70 mil under the cap and have over $100 mil before hitting the tax.

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zion is the most efficient scorer in the league
Ok, but he's factually not.
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with the potential to put up 30+ppg
He does not have that potential.
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He was a rookie. I am not saying he is going to be the DPOY, but let the kid get a couple of seasons and see where he is at. AD always says during the game the hardest part for rookies to learn is defense

Not sure what this has to do in relation to the discussion of Queen's absolute peak being a good role player.


I didn't say he'll be a superstar or I'd even bet on it. But his peak is definitely higher than a high end role player.
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Guess who will end up building new infrastructure there? Hint - it won’t be Iran or Israel. This is all an exercise in futility and the more distance we can get from the situation, the better.

Bingo

We're in a no win situation. Cut bait now and waste billions of dollars and dead military to accomplish nothing.

Or...

Another decade or 2 of regime change, trillions of dollars, and more dead soliders...and we know how good we are at regime change in the Middle East...
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I’d suggest never before in history has a nation accomplished so much while risking/losing so little.

Interesting as I don't see that we really accomplished much of anything.

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eliminated Irans income, access to nukes
We did this 8 months ago without the war, so not sure what the war accomplished, unless Trump lied to Americans 8 months ago.


Additionally, we didn't actually accomplish regime change yet. A new leader with the same values as the previous leader is not regime change. So without that, we really haven't accomplished anything, as the regime will still be funding terror and doing all the same stuff they were doing before.
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offensive is good but defensively he’s a liability.. rim protection defending in space and conditioning is all poor

Plenty of players are better than a high end role player who aren't that good on defense.
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It shows that he wastes too much time listening to a loud but vocal minority that does not think things through. Especially when it comes to Iran. So far all his bets have not paid off. Higher oil prices, a bottleneck at a key economic and strategic chokepoint and a political situation in Iran that has gone in the reverse of his expected goals....IRGC still running things.

Well said

One of the bigger blunders we've seen, and it'll just keep getting worse. Ego is too big to just send everyone home now, which would be the best thing to do obviously.
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I voted for the triggering of libtards, and so I’m loving Trump’s second term, but more specifically, I’m loving how triggered you are.

I love how you admit Trump hasn't done the things he campaigned, and you still bend the knee and kiss his feet.


Didn't even realize you said that, that's the best part of it :lol:
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I can see how triggered you are, and I definitely voted for that!

Do you realize yet that you didn't get that?

Or are you still blindly thinking it happened because some words popped up in the title of a post were strung together so it MUST be true?



It's factually not so, but you will still argue it happened :lol:
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No, he realizes that bombing, while effective at physical damage has produced the reverse of what he expected politically. I give him credit for learning what has become painfully apparent.
When the bar is set THIS low for giving credit to the President of the United States...just shows how incompetent he is.
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I thought they had already done this. Like, a year ago.

There's a reason you haven't seen the mass deportations Trump promised.

Just one of many empty campaign promises that his base simply do not care about.
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This is what I voted for

This is so perfectly done, just the perfect encapsulation of having no clue what you voted for because what the OP and tweet stated is exactly NOT what is happening. :lol:

re: Ben Shapiro’s take on Massie

Posted by shel311 on 5/21/26 at 11:37 am to
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o he started with the Epstein/Israel stuff,
By "stuff" you mean he started saying the exact same things Trump campaigned him and called out the Administration for not doing the thing they campaigned on?
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Spencer Pratt hosted a block party in South Central L.A.

No clue if he can pull it off, but he's running a near flawless campaign that'll give him the absolute best shot at doing so.
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Israel largely funded Trump.

Now they are funding his chosen candidates.

Jared Kushner doing work.
That's the other part of this the Trump bros can't really argue out of.

Israel is in control, they control Trump more than any previous President.
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It is simple. Massie demonstrated to the voters that he is incapable of being a team player.

How dare he want full transparency on the Epstein Files and no new wars like Trump campaigned on!

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The voters responded with turnout. Translation = enough is enough

Translation - if you spend $32million, send the Secretary of War to campaign for you while he's engaged in an actual war, get Fox News to shut him out while going to bat for the other guy, having the other guy refuse to debate, then you can control the boomers who have zero ability to think for themselves and get them to vote however you want.

re: Zion still a centerpiece?

Posted by shel311 on 5/21/26 at 9:32 am to
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I think he remains a big piece that we're trying to make the best of.
Which is the main reason why we've had so little success over the last 7 years.

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But we aren't going to give him away for little value like we were nearly almost forced to.
We aren't going to trade a guy with little value for little value, so we'll just pay him a max contract instead. That's illogical.

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I just don't see zion as being a piece that's stopping others from blossoming around him
He is exactly that.

re: Zion still a centerpiece?

Posted by shel311 on 5/21/26 at 9:29 am to
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Why is everyone so focused on calling Zion a centerpiece when he is just a bigger piece no pun intended he’s an efficient 21 to 26 point per game potential scorer that should be able to create open shots for other shooters in the correct roster

Max player who doesn't affect winning, which has been proven for 7 years now.

re: Zion still a centerpiece?

Posted by shel311 on 5/21/26 at 9:29 am to
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He should have not been allowed to half arse trot around for 61 games last year and increase his guaranteed salary from 25 mil to 42 mil bc it basically tanks his trade value to be at that salary level

I'd still trade Zion for almost anything. Late first, shooter w pulse, expiring contract

He's a loser and he limits the on court development of Queen especially. He's also not a good mentor for Fears to be around.

He's not hated enough by the city and fanbase. He gets far too much credit in year 7 and 8 for finally doing the bare minimum of being in shape, playing through an occasional injury, and mostly doing and saying the right things on and off the court.
New guy from the top rope dropping truth bombs!
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If we’re being honest his ceiling is a really good role player

His ceiling is certainly higher than that.

re: Daryl Morey Fired

Posted by shel311 on 5/20/26 at 4:32 pm to
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Should we?
Gayle would never pay his market value.