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re: Reports of over 20 young camp girls missing In TX floods
Posted on 7/5/25 at 12:46 pm to Oates Mustache
Posted on 7/5/25 at 12:46 pm to Oates Mustache
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I just wonder if the camp has emergency plans, where there are built in trigger points that require action plans.
From that text a few posts up, it seems like they were actively evacuating campers, but spots that were previously ‘safe’ and had never been touched started getting water.
Happening at the middle of the night had to be a significant contributing factor as well.
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Posted on 7/5/25 at 12:47 pm to Gnash
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A buddy of mine is currently stuck in Burnet County with his family. They’re ok, but he’s sent me some crazy videos of the Colorado River.
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Looks like the highest crest around there since 1938. Historic for this generation. They don't even have a description of possible effects above 38 feet.
Historic Crests
1. 62.24 ft on 07-23-1938
2. 58.40 ft on 09-25-1900
3. 56.70 ft on 09-21-1936
4. 45.90 ft on 10-01-1936
5. 41.00 ft on 05-19-1935
6. 39.90 ft on 10-17-1930
7. 38.36 ft on 09-11-1952
8. 37.34 ft on 05-14-1957
9. 35.06 ft on 11-04-2000
Flood Impacts
38 - Major flooding will occur. Roads and low water crossings will be flooded and impassible.
This post was edited on 7/5/25 at 12:51 pm
Posted on 7/5/25 at 12:49 pm to Oates Mustache
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but maybe moving forward, they need an emergency plan with heat mapping metrics that trigger something.
Hard for me to imagine this place moving forward. Just devastating; I wouldn’t want to live
Posted on 7/5/25 at 12:56 pm to sidewalkside
Social media is so terrible at the moment
Everyone reporting stuff to attempt to be first and trying to go viral with updates and there’s conflicting info all over the place
Everyone reporting stuff to attempt to be first and trying to go viral with updates and there’s conflicting info all over the place
This post was edited on 7/5/25 at 12:57 pm
Posted on 7/5/25 at 1:01 pm to Gnash
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This needs to be reiterated, it’s not exactly something you can forecast or plan for because the river has never reached those levels in the 100 year history of the camp
This.
I’m more interested in what the counties/state have in place as some kind of measurement and warning system and how those worked and timelines, etc.
I totally get that the forecast seriousness means almost nothing for an unreal event such as this, but are there creek/river gauges set up with alarms? Any weather instruments or computer based monitors that can send out alarms when a certain amount of rain has fallen over a short period of time?
Posted on 7/5/25 at 1:03 pm to CuseTiger
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One thing I was interested for this weather event is where all the rainfall happened and try to overlay the drought map with the rainfall map. Based on an initial glance, it looked like this heavy rain fell right into the worst drought areas. I'm sure that combination really made things a lot worse
Yeah, Kerr county has been in Exceptional Drought since mid-March. Heavy rain on ground that has been in longterm drought is a problem. The rains fell in the worst possible place, and with rates of 3"+/hr the runoff was going to cause problems. It was a perfect flash flood setup all the way around.
Posted on 7/5/25 at 1:07 pm to Sterling Archer
quote:an entire way of life is in jeopardy due to this disaster. its hard to describe to someone nor familiar with it how ingrained and important the summer camp scene is in that area. my little sister went to kickapoo camp in kerrville every summer for a decade, the last few years as a counselor. its a big freaking deal there...
Hard for me to imagine this place moving forward. Just devastating; I wouldn’t want to live
this is a generational disaster that will (and should i guess) change how people live in that area
Posted on 7/5/25 at 1:12 pm to notiger1997
“ The National Weather Service Austin/San Antonio issued a Flash Flood Warning at 1:14 am CDT for Bandera and Kerr Counties, respectively. They made statements like, “Life threatening flash flooding of creeks and streams, urban areas, highways, streets, and underpasses.” That warning also specifically identifed regions like Kerrville, Ingram, Hunt, Waltonia, Kerr Wildlife Management Area, and Lost Maples State Natural Area.”
That’s a warning for a fairly specific area. I see that it’s 1 am, but fairly sure all of those camps have security that is on patrol during the night and should be getting that warning.
LINK
That’s a warning for a fairly specific area. I see that it’s 1 am, but fairly sure all of those camps have security that is on patrol during the night and should be getting that warning.
LINK
Posted on 7/5/25 at 1:13 pm to notiger1997
There are measurements you can put in place that are standalone a d work via solar and radio.
They make cheap municipal rated radar level gauges that are very low priced and can be placed off the side of a bridge over a river with alarm points and rate of change alarms that could trigger the system to send out alerts via radio or cellular.
All can be powered via solar.
I've got some over outfalls that have battery backup. I can install a non intrinsically safe VEGA setup for under 3500-5000 depending on communication and power needs.
It can report back river level and if it sees a pre programmed level change increase or decrease to alert someone if say the river rises more than 6 inches in 15 minutes... etc
They make cheap municipal rated radar level gauges that are very low priced and can be placed off the side of a bridge over a river with alarm points and rate of change alarms that could trigger the system to send out alerts via radio or cellular.
All can be powered via solar.
I've got some over outfalls that have battery backup. I can install a non intrinsically safe VEGA setup for under 3500-5000 depending on communication and power needs.
It can report back river level and if it sees a pre programmed level change increase or decrease to alert someone if say the river rises more than 6 inches in 15 minutes... etc
Posted on 7/5/25 at 1:14 pm to Lawyered
Yep like the post yesterday saying that the 23 girls had been found and were rescued. Whoever tweeted that should be ashamed of themselves for giving false hope like that. No place for that
Posted on 7/5/25 at 1:16 pm to 257WBY
Even with the warnings the people in charge of the camp couldn’t have imagined what was going to happen. This has never had before as far as the water getting that high. I don’t think there was anything else that could have been done unfortunately.
Posted on 7/5/25 at 1:31 pm to sidewalkside
Did they find those camp girls yet?
Posted on 7/5/25 at 1:32 pm to PhilipMarlowe
No
Posted on 7/5/25 at 1:32 pm to SWLA92
From what I've read, this was a pretty big camp with a lot of campers, maybe up to 700. It seems they were evacuating, but didn't get to the last few cabins in time. Anyone else have any information?
I would think it would take time to move that many campers, though I'm not sure if they all had to move. Were some parts of the camp higher up?
I would think it would take time to move that many campers, though I'm not sure if they all had to move. Were some parts of the camp higher up?
Posted on 7/5/25 at 1:37 pm to Gris Gris
Yeah I read that also. There was a post a page or so back saying how the owner was moving kids back and forth with his truck and got swept away.
Posted on 7/5/25 at 1:38 pm to Gris Gris
Not sure if verified, i read something to the effect that one of the camp owners perished in his truck while trying to evacuate the younger kids during the chaotic events that night. So very sad!
Posted on 7/5/25 at 1:57 pm to cbdman
Just watched a video of a women saying her husband saved her, their kids and his mother by breaking a window and getting onto the roof but in the process he cut his arm and severed his artery and bled to death. Just an absolutely sad scenario. This event is so heartbreaking
Posted on 7/5/25 at 2:01 pm to nicholastiger
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by nicholastiger
How can you be such a shitty posters across all the boards.
Posted on 7/5/25 at 2:06 pm to Gris Gris
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From what I've read, this was a pretty big camp with a lot of campers, maybe up to 700. It seems they were evacuating, but didn't get to the last few cabins in time. Anyone else have any information?
I did see a photograph purported to be from the camp showing girls walking in a line, wading through ankle/shin-deep water.
Posted on 7/5/25 at 2:07 pm to 257WBY
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That’s a warning for a fairly specific area. I see that it’s 1 am, but fairly sure all of those camps have security that is on patrol during the night and should be getting that warning.
They did, which is why there are “only” 23 girls misssing instead of 150 or 1000 or more.
The Texags board has a thread with people who have fairly close ties to the situation posting updates. Like one is a father whose daughter is missing, another’s wife is a former counselor or employee and in a group chat with other former counselors, etc.
It sounds like the night security guy and another woman both got the warning in the 1 am hour and spent the next few hours evacuating all of the lower cabins next to the river and calling other camps to warn them.
All of the missing girls are from a couple of cabins that were on higher ground, like 30-35 ft above water line, that were not touched by the ‘87 flood, and presumed to be safe.
Once all of the lower cabins were evacuated, they realized the water was going to reach the higher cabins so they started on those and got a couple of them done. The owner was running back with his truck for more girls and he was washed away, and then those cabins were destroyed or washed away as well.
It sounds like everything that was supposed to happen from a prep/emergency management standpoint was executed to plan, and that taking out the higher cabins was unprecedented based on history.
LINK to Aggie thread
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