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re: People who lose weight on Ozempic viewed worse than people who don't lose weight at all
Posted on 5/10/26 at 11:34 am to Big EZ Tiger
Posted on 5/10/26 at 11:34 am to Big EZ Tiger
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It's not that dumb. I mean, how many times have we heard about a new and fast, magic solution to a something that turned out to be as problematic or more problematic than the original issue? But obesity is a gigantic issue, so I can see why people might take their chances either way.
The point is that the low percentage of bad medical outcomes will be vastly overshadowed by the billions in savings from lower rates of chronic diseases that are the #1 cause of death and the largest chunk of our healthcare costs are from obese people 55 and over. It’s like 2/3 of all our healthcare costs and people are bitching about the 1/100000000000000000000000000 of costs from the ozempic complications.
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Posted on 5/10/26 at 11:45 am to LSUFootballLover
I don't give a shiat if someone else is obese. I'm not in their life and have no idea what others are going through
You be you and don't be a jerk and ill support you.
Why are so my people angry and judgemental? I guess they are that way because they are unhappy. Probably sexually repressed.
You be you and don't be a jerk and ill support you.
Why are so my people angry and judgemental? I guess they are that way because they are unhappy. Probably sexually repressed.
Posted on 5/10/26 at 11:58 am to Cell of Awareness
TLDR Don’t care skinny.
Posted on 5/10/26 at 2:55 pm to CatfishJohn
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I much prefer ozempic people to fatties. Reduces costs on our healthcare system.
Not really. Ozempic and GLPs worsen plenty of other conditions, so it is a wash at best if not worse.
Posted on 5/10/26 at 3:00 pm to Geauxgurt
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Ozempic and GLPs worsen plenty of other conditions, so it is a wash at best if not worse.
Do you have any medical studies that have confirmed this?
Posted on 5/10/26 at 3:10 pm to Cell of Awareness
Unsurprisingly, the article is nuanced. The replies here are not.
Are people who can only lose weight with GLP-1s lazy? Maybe, but the individual and societal benefits are greater than the judgment these people get. Are the people who stop GLP-1s and regain the weight worthy of all the derision? Yes. They are just vain and lazy.
Are people who can only lose weight with GLP-1s lazy? Maybe, but the individual and societal benefits are greater than the judgment these people get. Are the people who stop GLP-1s and regain the weight worthy of all the derision? Yes. They are just vain and lazy.
Posted on 5/10/26 at 3:26 pm to bulletprooftiger
I want people to lose weight, so I definitely don't agree with OPS premise. I view fatties worse than I do those who use GLP-1s. At least the latter are trying to do something about their situation.
However, I don't like those who take them out of vanity as a shortcut.
However, I don't like those who take them out of vanity as a shortcut.
Posted on 5/10/26 at 3:29 pm to The Pirate King
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They still don't even know the full scope of long term issues that GLP-1s cause
You could say that for just about any newly approved drug. That’s why the companies are required to report any adverse events. If they see a trend they will investigate or pull from the market completely.
This post was edited on 5/10/26 at 3:30 pm
Posted on 5/10/26 at 3:58 pm to Cell of Awareness
Is Ozempic really just going to end up being a fraud that doesn’t work at all?
Posted on 5/10/26 at 4:13 pm to Cell of Awareness
IDGAF, I’m 43 with a severely jacked up back. Zepbound and PT saved me from surgery.
Posted on 5/10/26 at 4:16 pm to moneyg
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Ozempic has illuminated a group of people who placed their self worth in their fitness...and have lost their mind at the idea that some overweight people are no longer overweight.
I think a lot less of this group than the group that takes Ozempic.
And many of them use steroids and amphetamines.
Posted on 5/10/26 at 4:24 pm to Cell of Awareness
Most folks on these this stuff don't even realize that their body ALREADY produces GLP-1 hormones.
I don't view folks are using the synthetic hormone, GLP-1 agonist, as bad people.
I feel bad for them because they are probably doing long-term harm to their bodies.
It even states it on their very own website:
LINK
Folks talk about 'long-term' studies. There are none because this stuff has been around only a few years.
Does anyone remember the scam-demic, aka Covid1984? We are now just starting to see that the drug companies that manufactured the clot-shot wanted to hide the side effects for 80 years, long after we are dead and gone.
But we are starting to see horrible side effects. The 'Ozempic face', eye rot, foot issues. Possible blindness, eye strokes, pancreatitis, and the list goes on and on.
Most, if not all the obesity epidemic in the US and western societies stem from the absolute crappy MAD diet, Modern American Diet.
Seed oils, HFCS, sugar in EVERY thing, highly processed starches, crappy fast food, doritos, candy bars, protein bars, sodas, energy drinks and sports drinks, smoothies bought at these specialty stores...
Here is a bonus tip on natural foods that have the same effect as these fake GLP-1 agonist.
Use olive oil, not the counterfeit crap you see on the shelfs at nearly every grocery store.
Use Extra Virgin Olive Oil. Even then, most of EVOO is still counterfeit crap that is cut with seed oils like soy, canola, vegetable oils.
I don't view folks are using the synthetic hormone, GLP-1 agonist, as bad people.
I feel bad for them because they are probably doing long-term harm to their bodies.
It even states it on their very own website:
quote:
What is the most important information I should know about Ozempic®?
Ozempic® may cause serious side effects, including:
Possible thyroid tumors, including cancer. Tell your health care provider if you get a lump or swelling in your neck, hoarseness, trouble swallowing, or shortness of breath. These may be symptoms of thyroid cancer. In studies with rodents, Ozempic® and medicines that work like Ozempic® caused thyroid tumors, including thyroid cancer. It is not known if Ozempic® will cause thyroid tumors or a type of thyroid cancer called medullary thyroid carcinoma (MTC) in people
Do not use Ozempic® if:
you or any of your family have ever had MTC, or if you have an endocrine system condition called Multiple Endocrine Neoplasia syndrome type 2 (MEN 2)
you have had a serious allergic reaction to semaglutide or any of the ingredients in Ozempic® injection or Ozempic® tablets
LINK
Folks talk about 'long-term' studies. There are none because this stuff has been around only a few years.
Does anyone remember the scam-demic, aka Covid1984? We are now just starting to see that the drug companies that manufactured the clot-shot wanted to hide the side effects for 80 years, long after we are dead and gone.
But we are starting to see horrible side effects. The 'Ozempic face', eye rot, foot issues. Possible blindness, eye strokes, pancreatitis, and the list goes on and on.
Most, if not all the obesity epidemic in the US and western societies stem from the absolute crappy MAD diet, Modern American Diet.
Seed oils, HFCS, sugar in EVERY thing, highly processed starches, crappy fast food, doritos, candy bars, protein bars, sodas, energy drinks and sports drinks, smoothies bought at these specialty stores...
Here is a bonus tip on natural foods that have the same effect as these fake GLP-1 agonist.
Use olive oil, not the counterfeit crap you see on the shelfs at nearly every grocery store.
Use Extra Virgin Olive Oil. Even then, most of EVOO is still counterfeit crap that is cut with seed oils like soy, canola, vegetable oils.
Posted on 5/10/26 at 4:32 pm to Cell of Awareness
This thread is so full of stupid it’s hard to read.
Long term side effects is NOT an unknown. We know. GLP-1s have been used for around 25 years to treat diabetes. The exact same medicine many of you are acting like just came out. The. Exact. Same. Medicine. We know that it’s generally extremely safe. In fact, we now know it has several extremely beneficial side effects.
Remember a few years ago everyone was clamoring that GLP-1s are causing heart issues? Wrong. Now proven to improve cardiovascular health(aside from and in addition to the indirect weight loss benefits on cardiovascular health). Also helps break addiction cycles by affecting the conditioning feedback loop in the reward center of the brain(including with alcoholism, nicotine, nail biting, gambling, etc). New versions of the medicine have been developed, sure. But acting like there are huge unknowns is rage bait fear mongering bullsh!t. And completely asinine. The medicine is extremely safe, especially when weighed against inaction. The disease of obesity, however, is not safe. Just like cardiovascular disease, liver disease, and so on. It’s not different just because society has conditioned your brains to think it is.
I get such a kick out of ignorant people holding such emotionally charged opinions about weight loss medicine. Let’s all start attacking people with heart disease for taking heart medicine? How dare they! They should just “will power a cure” like everyone with obesity should do. Amirite? It’s not as different as you think. Social stigma and conditioning are the ONLY reasons many of you think the way you do about this. Medicine has far surpassed the archaic “it’s a will power issue” argument. It’s beyond dumb to still maintain that old mindset. Do some people possess enough willpower to overcome the disease of obesity without any surgical or medicinal intervention? Sure. Is it fair to act like everyone can and should “will power” through a medical illness that is biological and genetic? Of course not. Why do so many people attack people with obesity and not people with other diseases like cancer or heart disease?
It is also hilarious how many people bash “fatties” for taking GLP-1s and in the same breath talk about how they should take peptides instead because peptides work great for them. The level of ignorance is truly astounding in so many loudmouths on this subject. The same ignorant people can’t take the time to learn what GLP-1 even stands for. Hint, the P is for Peptide.
To be clear, my position is firmly that the vast majority of people are absolutely ignorant on this subject but choose to act like they know what they are talking about. But they don’t. At all. However, that doesn’t mean I do not support and advise healthy living habits like regular exercise, balanced diet, avoidance of unnatural preservatives and processed foods, etc. Those are also extremely important. As important as treating the disease of obesity with all tools, including weight loss medicine.
Long term side effects is NOT an unknown. We know. GLP-1s have been used for around 25 years to treat diabetes. The exact same medicine many of you are acting like just came out. The. Exact. Same. Medicine. We know that it’s generally extremely safe. In fact, we now know it has several extremely beneficial side effects.
Remember a few years ago everyone was clamoring that GLP-1s are causing heart issues? Wrong. Now proven to improve cardiovascular health(aside from and in addition to the indirect weight loss benefits on cardiovascular health). Also helps break addiction cycles by affecting the conditioning feedback loop in the reward center of the brain(including with alcoholism, nicotine, nail biting, gambling, etc). New versions of the medicine have been developed, sure. But acting like there are huge unknowns is rage bait fear mongering bullsh!t. And completely asinine. The medicine is extremely safe, especially when weighed against inaction. The disease of obesity, however, is not safe. Just like cardiovascular disease, liver disease, and so on. It’s not different just because society has conditioned your brains to think it is.
I get such a kick out of ignorant people holding such emotionally charged opinions about weight loss medicine. Let’s all start attacking people with heart disease for taking heart medicine? How dare they! They should just “will power a cure” like everyone with obesity should do. Amirite? It’s not as different as you think. Social stigma and conditioning are the ONLY reasons many of you think the way you do about this. Medicine has far surpassed the archaic “it’s a will power issue” argument. It’s beyond dumb to still maintain that old mindset. Do some people possess enough willpower to overcome the disease of obesity without any surgical or medicinal intervention? Sure. Is it fair to act like everyone can and should “will power” through a medical illness that is biological and genetic? Of course not. Why do so many people attack people with obesity and not people with other diseases like cancer or heart disease?
It is also hilarious how many people bash “fatties” for taking GLP-1s and in the same breath talk about how they should take peptides instead because peptides work great for them. The level of ignorance is truly astounding in so many loudmouths on this subject. The same ignorant people can’t take the time to learn what GLP-1 even stands for. Hint, the P is for Peptide.
To be clear, my position is firmly that the vast majority of people are absolutely ignorant on this subject but choose to act like they know what they are talking about. But they don’t. At all. However, that doesn’t mean I do not support and advise healthy living habits like regular exercise, balanced diet, avoidance of unnatural preservatives and processed foods, etc. Those are also extremely important. As important as treating the disease of obesity with all tools, including weight loss medicine.
Posted on 5/10/26 at 4:33 pm to Reubaltaich
I wish you people would leave those who take testosterone treatments and other peptides to enhance their fitness alone.
Posted on 5/10/26 at 4:34 pm to Reubaltaich
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Folks talk about 'long-term' studies. There are none because this stuff has been around only a few years.
what?Posted on 5/10/26 at 4:53 pm to Salmon
Yeah. I remember when energy drinks was gonna kill everyone too.
Posted on 5/10/26 at 5:00 pm to The Pirate King
quote:whatever these, if any, may be, hard to imagine they would result in a negative therapeutic index when you take into consideration the know benefits of reduced cardiovascular and stroke events not to mention lowering A1c and preventing metabolic syndrome.
Maybe for now. They still don't even know the full scope of long term issues that GLP-1s cause
I don’t understand why the “ unknown long term risks”, are somehow used as an excuse for not utilizing when the positive short term risk benefit is overwhelming positive on lowering risk of death? These drugs prevent heart attacks and strokes and if the trade off is a bit of muscle mass, so be it.
Posted on 5/10/26 at 5:02 pm to wally
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remember when energy drinks was gonna kill everyone too.
They do
Posted on 5/10/26 at 5:06 pm to RoyalWe
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I wish you people would leave those who take testosterone treatments and other peptides to enhance their fitness alone.
Hey, I am just putting out there a different viewpoint on this subject. Folks can do what they want to do.
I have a family member that got on the stuff and they are still suffering bad stomach issues. Doctors have no idea how to treat it.
I think they finally are getting it under control after a few years.
They are now drinking kerfir and eating kimchi along with sauerkraut.
We are seeing more and more healthy young people with sunken in faces, eye rot, gastro issues and many other issues.
I have said this on several occasions on the OT, this stuff is going to turn out bad for a lot of people.
Lawsuits are already working their way through the courts. In the near future we are going to see tons of commercials and billboards on the side of the Interstates and highways with something like: 'If you or someone you know has been injured by this drug, call 1-800... You may be entitled to substantial compensation.'
Posted on 5/10/26 at 5:07 pm to Cell of Awareness
I feel like the people who think this...
Are same people who video and shame fat people in the gym trying to lose weight naturally but also constantly bitch about society being too fat.
Good for obese folks in whichever way they need to lose weight (in a healthy manner obviously). Just make sure you're working with your doctor and working on maintaining a healthier lifestyle all together.
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People who lose weight on Ozempic viewed worse than people who don't lose weight at all
Are same people who video and shame fat people in the gym trying to lose weight naturally but also constantly bitch about society being too fat.
Good for obese folks in whichever way they need to lose weight (in a healthy manner obviously). Just make sure you're working with your doctor and working on maintaining a healthier lifestyle all together.
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