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re: Medical disinformation and crackpot advice is out of control
Posted on 1/27/25 at 7:07 pm to ghost2most
Posted on 1/27/25 at 7:07 pm to ghost2most
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This morning I saw a post about flu going around the schools and the number one liked post was someone telling a mom to not give their kid motril but rub a fricking potato on their foot and put garlic in their socks.
I thought the retards only recommended elderberry syrup for flu.
There are a lot of stupid people out there.
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Posted on 1/27/25 at 7:09 pm to Pettifogger
good post
no histrionics or wild false equivalencies
reasonable conclusions
well presented
the anti-OML
no histrionics or wild false equivalencies
reasonable conclusions
well presented
the anti-OML
Posted on 1/27/25 at 7:24 pm to BluegrassBelle
“vaccines outside of Covid vaccines that have been in use and well-researched “
You might be surprised to know vaccines are NOT well researched.Read RFk Jrs.book,VAX-UNVAX,you might be shocked,I was.I’m a retired RN of 35 years and I always assumed vaccines were extensively tested for safety .They are not.
RFK,Jr.gets a bad rap as a anti vaxxer and vaccine skeptic.His issue is the lack of testing for safety and side effects in the myriad of vaccines on the list of childhood vaccines,
He has extensive footnotes backing up everything he says,he doesn’t just come up with ideas he pulls out of his butt.
Another good book on this is TURTLES ALL THE WAY DOWN.
Pettifogger is right about the Hep B vaccine.If the mother is not a carrier for Hep B there is no logical reason to give a newborn the vaccine.I seriously doubt a newborn’s immune system is capable of making antibodies to an injected antigen,anyway.
It might make some sense for teenagers having sex or possibly injecting drugs.
Young parents say if they try to question a pediatrician above the various vaccines or suggest spacing them out the Drs tend to get pissed off and come back with a snarky comment such as “where did you go to medical school ?”I guarantee the avg Dr.has no idea about the constituents added such as adjuvants.
All they actually know is it’s on the list put out by the American Academy of Pediatrics which get significant funding from Big Pharma
Drs almost universally say vaccines are safe and effective.How did that work out for the Covid “vaccine”? They had no idea but the majority of Drs,were spouting that shite,ad nauseum.
A rep for a group-MomsAcrossAmerica were on Fox News in Dec.talking about food and vaccine safety.Their focus was glyphosate.
In 2016 they contracted, with an independent laboratory to test vaccines and some food items for glyphosate.
Vaccines tested were TDaP,Hep B,Pneumococcal,MMR and Influenza.p,every one had detectable amounts of glyphosate.Levels varied from 0.107ppb to 2.671 ppm.Small amts to be sure but I would allege that NO amount of glyphosate should be injected in anyone,much less a developing child.
They contacted CDC,FDA ,NIH and EPA with their lab results and urged them to do their own testing and were completely ignored.
I also came across an article by the Environmental Working Group reporting on a study done by the CDC from July 2022.
87% of 650 children tested had detectable levels of glyphosate in their urine.
80% of 1600 adults had detectable levels in their urine.
You might be surprised to know vaccines are NOT well researched.Read RFk Jrs.book,VAX-UNVAX,you might be shocked,I was.I’m a retired RN of 35 years and I always assumed vaccines were extensively tested for safety .They are not.
RFK,Jr.gets a bad rap as a anti vaxxer and vaccine skeptic.His issue is the lack of testing for safety and side effects in the myriad of vaccines on the list of childhood vaccines,
He has extensive footnotes backing up everything he says,he doesn’t just come up with ideas he pulls out of his butt.
Another good book on this is TURTLES ALL THE WAY DOWN.
Pettifogger is right about the Hep B vaccine.If the mother is not a carrier for Hep B there is no logical reason to give a newborn the vaccine.I seriously doubt a newborn’s immune system is capable of making antibodies to an injected antigen,anyway.
It might make some sense for teenagers having sex or possibly injecting drugs.
Young parents say if they try to question a pediatrician above the various vaccines or suggest spacing them out the Drs tend to get pissed off and come back with a snarky comment such as “where did you go to medical school ?”I guarantee the avg Dr.has no idea about the constituents added such as adjuvants.
All they actually know is it’s on the list put out by the American Academy of Pediatrics which get significant funding from Big Pharma
Drs almost universally say vaccines are safe and effective.How did that work out for the Covid “vaccine”? They had no idea but the majority of Drs,were spouting that shite,ad nauseum.
A rep for a group-MomsAcrossAmerica were on Fox News in Dec.talking about food and vaccine safety.Their focus was glyphosate.
In 2016 they contracted, with an independent laboratory to test vaccines and some food items for glyphosate.
Vaccines tested were TDaP,Hep B,Pneumococcal,MMR and Influenza.p,every one had detectable amounts of glyphosate.Levels varied from 0.107ppb to 2.671 ppm.Small amts to be sure but I would allege that NO amount of glyphosate should be injected in anyone,much less a developing child.
They contacted CDC,FDA ,NIH and EPA with their lab results and urged them to do their own testing and were completely ignored.
I also came across an article by the Environmental Working Group reporting on a study done by the CDC from July 2022.
87% of 650 children tested had detectable levels of glyphosate in their urine.
80% of 1600 adults had detectable levels in their urine.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 7:52 pm to ghost2most
I trust Alex Jones over any GP, even my own that I’ve had for the past 10 years.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 9:00 pm to Pettifogger
Somebody gets it! Nailed the situation.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 9:24 pm to Pettifogger
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This post was edited on 5/6/26 at 8:35 pm
Posted on 1/27/25 at 9:34 pm to cgrand
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This post was edited on 5/6/26 at 8:35 pm
Posted on 1/27/25 at 9:37 pm to ghost2most
We were fricked long before Covid. When the FDA approved Oxy and ALL fricking Dr’s started handing it out like M&M’s despite the obvious side effects, it’s only right for the general public to lose faith in modern medicine.
HIV pandemic in the 80’s.
Hey did you know that animal fats are bad for you should be processed carbs with literally every single meal?!
SSRI’s and Adderall prescribed to everybody.
This ad brought to you byyyyyyy Pfizer!
They’ve has a cure for cancer for a decade at least, but that’s bad for business.
We give children 80+ vaccines. We give infants vaccines for Hepatitis literally the day they are born.
Don’t fricking come here and act like modern medicine and it’s approach is supposed to be acceptable and people with common sense aren’t suppose to question everything.
Rubbing a potato on your forehead and hoping it gets rid of the flu is fricking stupid, but taking a flu “vaccine” is also fricking stupid.
HIV pandemic in the 80’s.
Hey did you know that animal fats are bad for you should be processed carbs with literally every single meal?!
SSRI’s and Adderall prescribed to everybody.
This ad brought to you byyyyyyy Pfizer!
They’ve has a cure for cancer for a decade at least, but that’s bad for business.
We give children 80+ vaccines. We give infants vaccines for Hepatitis literally the day they are born.
Don’t fricking come here and act like modern medicine and it’s approach is supposed to be acceptable and people with common sense aren’t suppose to question everything.
Rubbing a potato on your forehead and hoping it gets rid of the flu is fricking stupid, but taking a flu “vaccine” is also fricking stupid.
Posted on 1/28/25 at 6:45 am to dnm3305
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They’ve has a cure for cancer for a decade at least, but that’s bad for business.
That post in general is a bit unhinged, but this one especially speaks to a lack of understanding. What do you think "cancer" is? Some monolithic entity that can have a single "cure"? Even amongst the cancers I treat, the mechanisms for uncontrolled growth vary so wildly that the treatments aren't even in the same class of medication.
Careful when you say "cure for cancer," as it's usually a sign you don't know what you're talking about. Skepticism is healthy (and I'd argue necessary), but confident ignorance is not.
Posted on 1/28/25 at 6:50 am to ghost2most
Many in the medical community chose massive profits over facts during covid.
It's 100% their fricking fault.
It's 100% their fricking fault.
Posted on 1/28/25 at 6:51 am to Ham Solo
quote:
I don't know if putting garlic in your socks cures sickness, but it's actually a great way to conceal carry in case of a vampire attack.
Posted on 1/28/25 at 6:55 am to Wiener
quote:
Skepticism is healthy (and I'd argue necessary), but confident ignorance is not.
Well put
Posted on 1/28/25 at 6:57 am to LSUA 75
Thanks for posting.
I think most people just assume that the approved vaccines have been rigorously tested like other medications. They haven’t been. In fact, companies are better off NOT rigorously testing their vaccines as it might prove they knew there was a problem before release and eliminating their immunity.
I think most people just assume that the approved vaccines have been rigorously tested like other medications. They haven’t been. In fact, companies are better off NOT rigorously testing their vaccines as it might prove they knew there was a problem before release and eliminating their immunity.
Posted on 1/28/25 at 7:46 am to dnm3305
quote:
HIV pandemic in the 80’s.
HIV treatment has been one of the medical miracles of that past 40 years
The death rate peaked at like 16 per 100,000 in the mid 90s down to around 1.5 per 100,000 today.
This post was edited on 1/28/25 at 7:49 am
Posted on 1/28/25 at 8:51 am to OMLandshark
quote:
If they’ll lie about something that small, why would I believe them on what would be a big lie that say we haven’t been illegally producing bioweapons in China and one of them escaped killing millions of people? If they’ll lie about the masks, they’ll definitely lie about a true crime against humanity.
Yes friend
That is the entire point of the thread
Posted on 1/28/25 at 8:58 am to Pettifogger
I blame chiropractors. They are all over the internet giving out advice unsupported by evidence.
Posted on 1/28/25 at 9:00 am to Diseasefreeforall
Dumbass. How many scientific papers has your wife at least read the synopsis of? None. Unless her friends forwarded her something on social media, she never would have imagined half the batshit things she insists on doing, and social media existed way after chiropractors.
Posted on 1/28/25 at 9:01 am to Diseasefreeforall
quote:
I blame chiropractors
Always a sensible first move IMO
Posted on 1/28/25 at 12:30 pm to Aubie Spr96
“Thanks for posting”
It’s interesting how many down votes I got.I can only speculate that the down voters think I’m full of shite.
I ran into that a lot during the Covid episode.I never asked anyone if they took the vax but I had several people ask me.When I told them no they were flabbergasted that an R.N.wouldn’t take a “life saving” “safe and effective”,vaccine.
I would explain I was going by Dr.Robert Malone’s recommendation,I didn’t trust Pfizer,I didn’t trust new medications,if I got Covid I was going to take ivermectin of which I already had a stash from Tractor Supply no less.
They would counter with what their Dr.and news media said about it being safe and wouldn’t get Covid (they found out different).When I talked about ivermectin they really thought I was looney tunes.They had seen the news reports about people poisoning themselves self medicating with “horse wormer”.
My cousin and her husband got furious with me.He made a comment about ignorant people that wouldn’t take the “vax”.Their 2 sons are Drs.,one of them has a wife that is an I.D.Dr.,her boss is Dr.Katy (Fauci) O’Neal.
I told him I didn’t take it,that I didn’t care who said it was safe,nobody knows if it is and I wasn’t going to be a Guinea pig for some new tech vax.
He got visibly angry and left.
I understand lay people and younger nurses and Drs.having faith in the medical system,
When I started I was extremely idealistic and naive.I thought those in medical profession and hospitals represented the best of humanity.
Most of the Drs.at that time had started pre-Medicare and weren’t rich like Drs. came to be.
They were mostly humanitarians,they worked long hard hours and were just upper middle class.Didn’t even have beepers at that time.
Nurse salaries were pretty bad then,we didn’t do it for the money
Hospitals were,more supportive of the staff.
As time went on it became more and more about the money.Medicare,started off paying 100% of charges.
Drug companies started advertising,drug reps started coming around bribing Drs.with all kinds of trips,tickets to sporting events,etc.
Younger Drs.started showing up,for some (not all)it was all about the money.
By the mid 90’s it was pretty clear insurance companies and pharma were taking over health care.
About 2000,hospitals went full corporate.Their mantra was do more with less,always had shortages of equipment and staff.Patients became fatter and sicker.JCAH constantly coming up with new regulations and standards for us to meet..
My final straw for me was when Obamacare required EMR’s,the frickin computer took priority over the patients.
So here I sit,a jaded ,cynical old man pretty disappointed in what “healthcare “has become.
It’s not all doom and gloom,there are some very fine Drs.mostly in the specialties.Good thing about being a nurse is knowing what Drs to go to.
For,example,when I was forced to get a primary Dr.I knew of a Dr. that didn’t push the vax,had acquired a large stash of ivermectin and gave it to his pts.free of charge,admonishing them to keep it quiet.Also wants his pts. on Vit D3,and monitors their levels.
It’s interesting how many down votes I got.I can only speculate that the down voters think I’m full of shite.
I ran into that a lot during the Covid episode.I never asked anyone if they took the vax but I had several people ask me.When I told them no they were flabbergasted that an R.N.wouldn’t take a “life saving” “safe and effective”,vaccine.
I would explain I was going by Dr.Robert Malone’s recommendation,I didn’t trust Pfizer,I didn’t trust new medications,if I got Covid I was going to take ivermectin of which I already had a stash from Tractor Supply no less.
They would counter with what their Dr.and news media said about it being safe and wouldn’t get Covid (they found out different).When I talked about ivermectin they really thought I was looney tunes.They had seen the news reports about people poisoning themselves self medicating with “horse wormer”.
My cousin and her husband got furious with me.He made a comment about ignorant people that wouldn’t take the “vax”.Their 2 sons are Drs.,one of them has a wife that is an I.D.Dr.,her boss is Dr.Katy (Fauci) O’Neal.
I told him I didn’t take it,that I didn’t care who said it was safe,nobody knows if it is and I wasn’t going to be a Guinea pig for some new tech vax.
He got visibly angry and left.
I understand lay people and younger nurses and Drs.having faith in the medical system,
When I started I was extremely idealistic and naive.I thought those in medical profession and hospitals represented the best of humanity.
Most of the Drs.at that time had started pre-Medicare and weren’t rich like Drs. came to be.
They were mostly humanitarians,they worked long hard hours and were just upper middle class.Didn’t even have beepers at that time.
Nurse salaries were pretty bad then,we didn’t do it for the money
Hospitals were,more supportive of the staff.
As time went on it became more and more about the money.Medicare,started off paying 100% of charges.
Drug companies started advertising,drug reps started coming around bribing Drs.with all kinds of trips,tickets to sporting events,etc.
Younger Drs.started showing up,for some (not all)it was all about the money.
By the mid 90’s it was pretty clear insurance companies and pharma were taking over health care.
About 2000,hospitals went full corporate.Their mantra was do more with less,always had shortages of equipment and staff.Patients became fatter and sicker.JCAH constantly coming up with new regulations and standards for us to meet..
My final straw for me was when Obamacare required EMR’s,the frickin computer took priority over the patients.
So here I sit,a jaded ,cynical old man pretty disappointed in what “healthcare “has become.
It’s not all doom and gloom,there are some very fine Drs.mostly in the specialties.Good thing about being a nurse is knowing what Drs to go to.
For,example,when I was forced to get a primary Dr.I knew of a Dr. that didn’t push the vax,had acquired a large stash of ivermectin and gave it to his pts.free of charge,admonishing them to keep it quiet.Also wants his pts. on Vit D3,and monitors their levels.
Posted on 1/28/25 at 12:51 pm to LSUA 75
quote:He took the Vax.
I would explain I was going by Dr.Robert Malone’s recommendation,I
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