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re: Who believes in miracles?

Posted by Jake88 on 4/29/25 at 6:11 pm
It took seven doctors to look at the sample and the final one thought it was cardiac tissue. The other 6 did not.

The studies are not easy to find and are often in foreign languages. You'll have to settle for this...or not.
Forensicsjournal .com
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Anybody who doesn't suck down the Deepstate Globalist narrative is a paid shill. You NAFO trolls really should find new material, your lack of diversity in your false accusations is very boring
I'm not in favor of giving Ukraine billions so you're wrong about me, but everyone knows you're a paid shill. Go back to defending junk food on SNAP.
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BS. It was a clear veiled threat
This opinion by you is no surprise. You're a paid shill.
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Zelensky threatens to strike Russia victory parade where world leaders are attending
What a liar you and that Twitter clown are. He said nothing, nothing of the sort. He was talking about sanctions, clearly. This thread should be shameful to you, but you probably haven't the character to care.

re: Who believes in miracles?

Posted by Jake88 on 4/29/25 at 4:33 pm
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the one in Argentina
The tests conducted at Forensics Analytical in 1999 are consistent with rotting bread and inconsistent with heart tissue. In particular:
The ortho-tolidine test was negative, indicating that the tissue did not contain myoglobin, and thus is not muscle of any kind

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.it will never be enough for you
Because I'm not gullible.

re: Who believes in miracles?

Posted by Jake88 on 4/29/25 at 4:10 pm
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Funny enough, that study was also done by a Catholic. You don't mind Catholic scientists when you think their work helps your argument
Of course. They'd have more interest in fudging like the folks in Poland. Yet they found it could be replicated.

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Just because your saying it's poor research doesn't mean it was
It wasn't just me. It was their employer.

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It's been 17 years. In all likely, it can't be replicated
There were requests to do further study back then. The Church refused.

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There are instances of eucharistic miracles in which they tested and concluded it was not bacteria
No, there aren't. None with any rigor and multiple objective opinions.

re: Who believes in miracles?

Posted by Jake88 on 4/29/25 at 3:47 pm
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Reporting their findings negatively effected their reputations and caused them to be reprimanded by their university
Because they did poor "research." Where are the original findings? Why won't the Church allow further study?

Again, these results can be reproduced by placing an unconsecrated host in water for a week or so in 15% of cases.

re: Who believes in miracles?

Posted by Jake88 on 4/29/25 at 2:59 pm
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You question the impartiality of a Catholic PhD but turn to reddit for your rebuttal
The reddit post had a link to a report on the event and a link to the university's statement on it. They were both in Polish. I put paragraphs into a translator that confirmed the summary given by the poster. Shoddy research by those who are biased to believe
with no true rigor or chance at a second opinion was the jist of both.

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you don't trust the nun and priest who found it
How so? They sent it to the "researchers" so they didn't trust themselves at first either.

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There's no changing a closed mind
Pot, is that you?

re: Who believes in miracles?

Posted by Jake88 on 4/29/25 at 1:49 pm
It was a sloppy investigation by people invested in it being divine. From reddit and someone who translated a polish report on it...
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investigation that mentions the informal character of the examination that was made on the sample. It confirmed that it was LIKELY a mammal heart muscle but can't prove whether it came from a human or an animal. Another Medical Facility approached the Archbishop offering DNA testing of the samples but he replied that "Sanctity must be respected"


Then the University distanced itself from the findings...
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it's a very official disclaimer that the University officials cut any ties with the results of the examination and would like to make it clear it's not their scientifically backed expertise. It was done as an informal side project of two of their employees and since they haven't documented any results the tests can't be replicated or peer reviewed


The university spokesman who is a practicing Catholic notes that they were not allowed to perform more definitive tests and that the 2 profs "they are characterized by an emotional approach to faith"

In other words, no real research occurred or was allowed as a follow up. No second opinions were allowed.

re: Who believes in miracles?

Posted by Jake88 on 4/29/25 at 12:45 pm
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That doesn't explain the confirmed miracles
They weren't proven with any actual rigor. That is what the linked story was about.
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How did a piece of bread develop heart tissue?
It didn't. They saw fragments of elongated cells and surmised they were was cardiac cells. Fungal cells also are elongated and in the state that the host was it was loaded with fungus.

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Fungal cells can sometimes be mistaken for cardiac cells in laboratory tests due to their similar appearance under a microscope

re: Who believes in miracles?

Posted by Jake88 on 4/29/25 at 11:19 am
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Kearse devised, for the first time ever, a set of control experiments. He obtained unconsecrated communion wafers and processed them according to the same conditions described above. He left them in a dusty, dark corner for several days and then stored them in water at ambient temperature and humidity for 7-10 days. Approximately 15 percent of the control wafers formed a gelatinous red substance on the surface, like the photos from the Eucharistic miracle reports
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It seems remarkable that all five test for the same, rare blood type. But there is a problem: the A and B antigens are not unique to humans. Since the 1960s, biologists have known that bacteria cells also have A and B antigens on their surfaces. Hence, if a sample is contaminated with bacteria, even if it contains no blood at all, it could still show a type AB blood result in this test.

Yet, without anyone ever checking for bacteria as the explanation, the claim about the blood type is often repeated as miraculous.
Crisis Magazine
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Cancer is just parasites and there’s always been a cure.
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Better get used to it. This reality is 100% on Trump
Why do I care who Canada elects?
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I'm not anti-cop, I just no longer automatically give them the benefit of the doubt
Understood.
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with profound implications for U.S. democracy and civil rights
:rolleyes:
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I don't really get "Back the Blue!!!" 
You ever live in New Orleans or other high crime area?