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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 5/11/22 at 8:38 am to TigerDoc
Posted on 5/11/22 at 8:38 am to TigerDoc
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the FSB has an arm known as the "5th service" whose task is essentially to act to some extent FSB does in Russia, but within what Russia considers to be their rightful foreign sphere of influence and whose job would have been if this had gone to plan to commence to purge the Ukraine government and local elites (and they are in fact doing that in areas they can).
TigerDoc has been following Andrei Soldatov.
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GRU, which has now been given the task,
If recent history is any guide they will be sloppy as hell.
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Posted on 5/11/22 at 8:39 am to Decatur
*tips cap*
ETA: anybody interested in learning more about that "sloppy as hell" history should check out Christo Grozev, whose job is basically to own the GRU.
ETA: anybody interested in learning more about that "sloppy as hell" history should check out Christo Grozev, whose job is basically to own the GRU.
This post was edited on 5/11/22 at 8:56 am
Posted on 5/11/22 at 9:05 am to TigerDoc
as much as i support ukraine...our spending is getting a little insane after this last vote. Cant keep doing this.
I respect and support toppling russia without firing a shot ourselves but frick its getting expensive.
I respect and support toppling russia without firing a shot ourselves but frick its getting expensive.
Posted on 5/11/22 at 9:18 am to lsu777
Yes. I think the reason it passed with so many votes (less than 60 against in the House) is partly because it's considered cheap (including in lives) compared to likely alternatives.
And speaking of Congress, did anyone else see yesterday that the Senate is going to put a resolution a request to the Secretary of State to designate Russia a state sponsor of terror which would put them in the company of NK, Iran, Syria. They expect about 90 votes in favor.
And speaking of Congress, did anyone else see yesterday that the Senate is going to put a resolution a request to the Secretary of State to designate Russia a state sponsor of terror which would put them in the company of NK, Iran, Syria. They expect about 90 votes in favor.
This post was edited on 5/11/22 at 9:25 am
Posted on 5/11/22 at 9:23 am to lsu777
We haven’t had this kind of return on foreign aid/military spending in decades. Let ‘er rip.
Posted on 5/11/22 at 10:07 am to Decatur
40 billion more ,,oooh goody
Posted on 5/11/22 at 10:13 am to Stidham8
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Only posts praising Zelensky, Ukraine, and even the Biden Administration are supported on this forum. And of course, hating Trump is a fixture as well.
I’ll admit this thread got a little circle jerky a while back. But the majority of the people that have posted in this thread still dislike or hate Biden. A large portion of Trump voters here too.
Posted on 5/11/22 at 10:14 am to lsu777
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I respect and support toppling russia without firing a shot ourselves but frick its getting expensive.
It would be even more expensive fighting an open war with Russia after they invaded the NATO Baltic states following their successful annexation of Ukraine.
I would also rather send aid to Ukraine than deal with the economic consequences of Russia controlling the mineral wealth and food generation of Ukraine.
Posted on 5/11/22 at 10:29 am to Tigeralum2008
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It would be even more expensive fighting an open war with Russia after they invaded the NATO Baltic states following their successful annexation of Ukraine.
I would also rather send aid to Ukraine than deal with the economic consequences of Russia controlling the mineral wealth and food generation of Ukraine.
Bingo. Especially the second part.
Putin saw Biden as a weak President, especially after the cluster frick that was the withdrawal from Afghanistan and took the opportunity to try and take Ukraine completely. That would have had MASSIVE repercussions globally.
But Putin misjudged not only Ukraine, but the Biden administration. As much as I dislike Biden, he actually has done a pretty good job with Ukraine, walking that fine line between backing Ukraine and not getting us involved in a larger conflict.
Posted on 5/11/22 at 10:37 am to Centinel
Cents I completely agree with this post, Biden in this one area has proven himself to be capable of delegating this important file and pushing Allies and fence sitters in the right direction. Call me old fashioned but a wartime president needs the confidence of the people. Again it’s limited in scope but he has my confidence.
Posted on 5/11/22 at 10:52 am to Centinel
I would agree with you that for this crisis, Biden has managed it well so far. I will give credit where credit is due. However, I still expect him to screw it up somehow, just like they have on everything else.
This post was edited on 5/11/22 at 10:53 am
Posted on 5/11/22 at 11:07 am to Chromdome35
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I still expect him to screw it up somehow, just like they have on everything else.
Biden has made a long career while repeatedly saying stupid stuff at the wrong time. So long as the Administration continues to allow the professionals to deliberate and plan the moves, we will continue to be ok.
Posted on 5/11/22 at 11:15 am to TBoy
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We were told that Russian troops used chemical weapons against units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Izyum direction
Possibly chlorine. There are symptoms of suffocation, vomiting and loss of consciousness. The whole cloud went towards Novomykolaivka LINK
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According to official report, a train with ammonium nitrate was hit.
Posted on 5/11/22 at 11:20 am to StormyMcMan
Posted on 5/11/22 at 11:21 am to TideCPA
Lake quagmire claims more Tanks APCs
Posted on 5/11/22 at 11:51 am to Centinel
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the Biden administration.
This is right in the wheelhouse for Biden, Milley et al. All the old cold warrior gang dont trust the Russians.
Militarily the Russians went back to the front of the stove in 2014 so all of this has been planned and war gamed. Something like this:
"Ok staff the Russians just invaded Ukraine, I need 50 COAs to pitch to the boss by close of business tomorrow, go"
Posted on 5/11/22 at 11:54 am to Coeur du Tigre
Great summary.
Posted on 5/11/22 at 12:23 pm to TideCPA
I wish people would stop smoking next to bodies of water!
Posted on 5/11/22 at 12:24 pm to LSUCanFAN
quote:Thanks, however in the interest of avoiding the Big Head, we must remember that even the blind squirrel will sometimes find a nut. And this squirrel had way too much coffee this morning.
I don’t often post a reply with praise attached to it but honestly, this is a very thorough look at the present situation.
Posted on 5/11/22 at 12:35 pm to Coeur du Tigre
Ukraine NLAWS wiping out tank column in Donetsk
I am stunned at the lack of maneuvering by the tank crews in this video. They literally stay on the road and do nothing more than pop smoke. One simply KAMIKAZES straight ahead and get his turret flipped in the process
The missileers pick off the tanks one by one...
I am stunned at the lack of maneuvering by the tank crews in this video. They literally stay on the road and do nothing more than pop smoke. One simply KAMIKAZES straight ahead and get his turret flipped in the process
The missileers pick off the tanks one by one...
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