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If there is no heaven or hell, does the purpose & meaning of your life change?

Posted on 7/30/26 at 11:47 am
Posted by Everyday Is Saturday
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Posted on 7/30/26 at 11:47 am


Christopher Hitchens provides a point of view. Thoughts?
Posted by weagle1999
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Posted on 7/30/26 at 11:49 am to
Believers will never know if they are wrong.
Atheists will never know if they are right.
Posted by jasonbr1975
Lafayette, LA
Member since Sep 2024
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Posted on 7/30/26 at 11:49 am to
No. It's about morals, values, virtues and all those things. Many Christians/Catholics struggle with belief and faith, but at the end of the day, even if it not real, I'd rather live my life according to Jesus' teachings and upholding those good morals, values, and virtues.
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
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Posted on 7/30/26 at 12:02 pm to
I don't live my life in expectations of after life rewards. I sincerely believe Christ was the way to a better life on earth. If I am rewarded after death, great. If not I haven't wasted my time on Earth.
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
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Posted on 7/30/26 at 12:04 pm to
Nah

Posted by HoustonChick86
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Posted on 7/30/26 at 12:06 pm to
I don't necessarily believe in an afterlife because the thought of living forever in heaven is terrifying. But I believe in being a good person and making the life I do have be enjoyable.
Posted by litenin
Houston
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 7/30/26 at 12:06 pm to
What if there is no Heaven or Hell but there is Reincarnation. Each next life is impacted by how you live this one.

Would that change things?
Posted by Snipe
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Posted on 7/30/26 at 12:11 pm to
There is a Haven and Hell.

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Posted by soccerfüt
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Posted on 7/30/26 at 12:13 pm to
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I don't necessarily believe in an afterlife because the thought of living forever in heaven is terrifying.
If I’m there, it’s no longer terrifying.

So live a great life and pray for me to do the same.

Nguyen Nguyen
Posted by HoustonChick86
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Posted on 7/30/26 at 12:16 pm to
quote:

If I’m there, it’s no longer terrifying.

And hopefully that is the case.

My brain likes to know there is an end, the idea of eternity or even like infinity in space has always been hard to grasp.
Posted by faraway
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Posted on 7/30/26 at 12:16 pm to
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Believers will never know if they are wrong.
Atheists will never know if they are right.
every single human who ever lives will bow down before Christ some day. everyone will know.
Posted by UptownJoeBrown
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 7/30/26 at 12:17 pm to
No.

Live by the golden rule. Life is much better this way regardless.
Posted by UFFan
Planet earth, Milky Way Galaxy
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Posted on 7/30/26 at 12:18 pm to
If believers are right, they should eventually learn that they're right. They'd go to heaven after they die.

Atheists are the ones who would never learn that they're right. If atheists are right, then when you die, you just cease to exist, just like before you were born.


That's the whole reason for Pascal's Wager. Basically, it's theorized that there's no risk to believing in God and being wrong.
Posted by weagle1999
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Posted on 7/30/26 at 12:20 pm to
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Posted by Cycledude
Member since Jul 2018
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Posted on 7/30/26 at 12:22 pm to
First, why risk it? At the least it’s the best way to keep the world civilized. If there’s no afterlife, it’s get away with whatever you can. I wouldn’t want to live in that world.
Posted by JiminyCricket
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 7/30/26 at 12:23 pm to
quote:

Christopher Hitchens provides a point of view. Thoughts?


His points are, imo, not very well fleshed out, littered with misrepresentations and ultimately don't really provide much of a compelling argument when taken in their totality.


ETA; tough crowd. I didn't make an argument for creationism or theism, just that Hitchens didn't really provide a clear response that was logically sound and it had quite a few fallacies.
This post was edited on 7/30/26 at 1:01 pm
Posted by dchog
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Posted on 7/30/26 at 12:25 pm to
Any place not heaven is hell.
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
17120 posts
Posted on 7/30/26 at 12:29 pm to
quote:

I don't necessarily believe in an afterlife because the thought of living forever in heaven is terrifying.


That's like saying I don't believe in the outer space because the thought of being in a place with no oxygen and zero gravity terrifies me.
Posted by BamaCoaster
God's Gulf
Member since Apr 2016
7344 posts
Posted on 7/30/26 at 12:30 pm to
It shouldn't.

But, for some people, they need to think their is an omnipresent entity watching over them, wanting them to be on their best behavior.

For children, that person is Santa.
For adults, that person is God.

I attend church with my wife and think it is important to raise children in church, but I don't believe in our idea of a creator/Jesus resurrection. I don't voice this in church, however.
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 7/30/26 at 12:37 pm to
No. I don't really give a sh*t one way or the other.

I don't try to be a good person because I'm afraid of hell or because I want to get into heaven.
This post was edited on 7/30/26 at 12:38 pm
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