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JiminyCricket
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re: Ryan clark stirring shite
Posted by JiminyCricket on 4/29/25 at 9:42 am
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In their defense, Brooks Jr is going to need around the clock care for the rest of his life. Which more than likely will be beyond the parents lives. What parent wants to have this burden placed upon their child....none. While I don't necessarily agree with the story changes, what I can obviously sympathize with is, they want someone to blame for the apparent delay in care/diagnosis of the tumor. Thinking an earlier detection could have kept Jr away from a life of need and burden.
People want someone/something to blame when horrible things happen. The sad reality though is that sometimes bad things just happen and it's not really anyone's fault. Just because a terrible thing happened doesn't make it okay to blame someone for that terrible thing that really isn't at fault, especially smearing them publicly.
re: Ryan clark stirring shite
Posted by JiminyCricket on 4/29/25 at 9:11 am
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He chastises Kelly for not being there when Greg came out of surgery even though Kelly was with his team in Starkville for a game.
It’s absurd.
Yep. That kinda goes to the point too. Does it really matter if Kelly went or not? Did Brian Kelly being there or not being there change his medical care at all? It just smells like a smear campaign to me trying to push LSU to a quiet and quick settlement to avoid the public backlash.
Even Ryan Clark pushed back on him about how rare Greg's condition was and it would've been easy to miss even for seasoned doctors and trainers. This all just seems like a terrible set of circumstances but other than the docs who did the surgery, I don't really know that there's anyone to blame. Just sucks.
re: Ryan clark stirring shite
Posted by JiminyCricket on 4/29/25 at 9:00 am
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He's just chasing the dollar and will burn everyone to get it.
To me, I feel for him as a parent but the fact that he has spent exponentially more time on smearing Brian Kelly for not visiting than the medical team that actually did the surgery tells me alot. You'd think that he would spend the bulk of his time hitting on the malpractice side of things but it seems like basically every interview is about Kelly which kinda pushes me to believe he's trying to win this in the COPO to push for a settlement from LSU.
re: Ryan clark stirring shite
Posted by JiminyCricket on 4/29/25 at 8:56 am
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Kelly called, Kelly visited.
Who cares anyway? Did Kelly give him a tumor or have LSU refuse to cover treatment?
In what world is the act of reaching out monetarily applicable? Brooks wants 10s of millions because he didn’t think the coach showed enough emotional support lol?
This is what sticks out to me. As far as I know, visiting a hurt/sick player is not a legally required thing for a football coach to do. It may be the right thing to do as a person and morally speaking, but it's not like not visiting is a violation of a coaches duties to a player legally speaking. That's what kinda leads me to believe that it's a tactic to paint LSU as a whole in a negative light, setting up a win in the court of public opinion, which could possibly lead to a settlement.
re: Ryan clark stirring shite
Posted by JiminyCricket on 4/29/25 at 8:53 am
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Ryan clark stirring shite
Look, I've passionately disagreed with Ryan Clark on a multitude of issues. I didn't even want to watch the interview initially.
With that being said, Ryan was, in my humble opinion, very fair to LSU and Brian Kelly in this interview. The way he pushed back on GBS, albeit gently, gave me the impression that he knows his friend is hurting for his kid but at the same time knowing that GBS is being unfair in his criticism.
re: China rejects Trump’s claim that Xi has called him by phone
Posted by JiminyCricket on 4/28/25 at 9:11 am
Regardless of how one feels about tariffs or Donald Trump, China claiming that absolutely no conversations have taken place between the US and the CCP on tariffs/trade is pretty laughable. Does anyone actually believe XI?
re: Tennessee has a better roster than LSU
Posted by JiminyCricket on 4/27/25 at 6:28 pm
Man, that first page had some good ones :lol: :lol:
re: Jalen Milroe
Posted by JiminyCricket on 4/25/25 at 1:15 pm
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Here's my only thing with Milroe..he DOES have a lot of upside obviously due to the athletic talent. If they take him my hope is there's a plan there with Moore to develop him.
Maybe that's part of my opinion here is that I'm sick of this organization and "upside." I'm sick of the Penning, Davenport, Turner, Foskey type picks at least in the early rounds. If you want to take a guy with upside, great, I'm all for it. But pick him in the 5th and after. Quit burning top end of the draft picks on guys who weren't all that great in college but "we think we can fix him." Hell, half the time, we've let guys walk and they've been better elsewhere. I just think picking Milroe because he can run fast and throw far but doesn't do anything else particularly well on the hope that maybe Kellen Moore will have the magic fairy dust to unlock him is such a frustratingly Saints-like thing to do.
re: Jalen Milroe
Posted by JiminyCricket on 4/25/25 at 1:06 pm
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You may not but it's very prevalent here. I love LSU too but a lot can happen in a year. It is not even remotely close to a lock that Nuss will even be a first round pick. The QB class next year "looks great now" but things can change. NFL teams aren't going to make a decision on the team based on the off chance that they may have a pick that has a QB available they like next year.
Again, that was never my argument. I'm not arguing that we should wait to take a QB next year, I'm arguing that Milroe aint the guy we need. The guy is not good and I watched a ton of Bama games this past year. He had more games where he threw for less than 200 yards than games where he broke 300 yards. 11 picks in 13 games. He wasn't good. He isn't consistent. He's not particularly accurate. He doesn't throw with touch. He's fast and can throw far, that's about it.
re: Jalen Milroe
Posted by JiminyCricket on 4/25/25 at 1:02 pm
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You are doing what every other loser LSU fan does on this board and basing your entire position on this topic on the outside chance that the Saints draft Nussmeier. Not gonna happen.
I don't care if the Saints draft Garrett. I don't want them to draft Milroe with any early draft picks.
re: Jalen Milroe
Posted by JiminyCricket on 4/25/25 at 12:58 pm
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IDGAF about those but I get what you are saying.
I honestly have no idea what people in this thread see in Milroe as an NFL prospect at QB.
re: Jalen Milroe
Posted by JiminyCricket on 4/25/25 at 12:57 pm
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Maybe not. I guess we will see. I tend to disagree though especially in a guy that young that a smart OC/HC can develop something innovative around.
It doesn't matter how smart or innovative a coach is if the guy he's coaching cannot throw the ball to with anything symbolizing touch. I honestly have no idea how y'all could watch Jalen Milroe this past year and think he's go what it takes to succeed in the league.
re: Jalen Milroe
Posted by JiminyCricket on 4/25/25 at 12:55 pm
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Milroe played under 3 different offensive systems at Alabama. First under Bill O'Brien. Then Tommy Rees & finally last year Kalen DeBoer/Nick Sheridan. Milroe showed no progress as a passer in any of the offensive systems. He's just really slow at reading coverages pre & post snap. He can't throw with anticipation. If it's not a deep ball or wide arse open, he isn't pulling the trigger or he does, he's throwing it into traffic for an interception. No one can fix that aspect of his game. You either have it or you don't & Milroe doesn't have it.
You'll get downvoted for this but you're absolutely correct. Milroe is an explosive athlete but a bad QB.
re: Jalen Milroe
Posted by JiminyCricket on 4/25/25 at 12:53 pm
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Will you still have this attitude next year if we are picking at 15 and there's only 1-2 good QBs expected to go 1 and 2? You gonna say "we shouldn't do it, we have needs on the roster" when presented with the idea of giving up a bounty of picks to move up for your boy Nuss?
How long do we "build up the roster" before we get a QB? There is never going to be a QB who is rated appropriately sitting on the board where we pick. It is a position you have to take a risk and reach for.
The Saints ain't picking at 15 next year.
re: Jalen Milroe
Posted by JiminyCricket on 4/25/25 at 10:22 am
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My opinion is players with talent can get better especially in a great system. It doesn’t have to be absolutes. Hurts was in about as good a situation as possible between Oklahoma and Philly.
If they wanna take Milroe in the 6th round, sure. It’s a dice roll that late anyway. Anything in the top 5 is stupid. Other than running fast, Milroe has no real translatable traits to the league.
re: Jalen Milroe
Posted by JiminyCricket on 4/25/25 at 10:18 am
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I don’t look at it this way. I don’t give a shite about who can start today. That’s going to likely be the difference in a win or MAYBE 2 in a year highly likely to be a down one anyway.
The only question that should be asked about milroe is does KM think he can take those tools and have a special qb in the future. If he has that vision then it’s worth it and the floor of a gadget player at least makes it more palatable as opposed to a pocket passer who fails and washes out. If he doesn’t have a vision for him then obviously its pointless given the needs we have.
We're just going to agree to disagree here I think. Why waste a draft pick when you have needs literally everywhere on a guy who can maybe be a gadget for you in spots, maybe?
re: Jalen Milroe
Posted by JiminyCricket on 4/25/25 at 10:16 am
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Milroe was a bad passer last year but it’s disingenuous as hell to say hurts was a good passer for the vast majority of his college career. He was downright horrible for some of those bama years.
Hurts was an objectively better passer than Milroe in college. More touchdowns, more yards, better comp percentage and less picks. If your opinion is that Hurts wasn’t a good passer in college, why would you want a guy who is statistically worse than he was?
re: Jalen Milroe
Posted by JiminyCricket on 4/25/25 at 9:45 am
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Hurts spent 1 year at Oklahoma so he had a new coach too.
Absolutely correct, but that offense was stacked and had more consistency with players and coaching than Bama's this year.
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No they're not. Milroe isn't nearly the passer Hurts is. It's not even close.
Hurts was inconsistent as a passer in college and occasionally in the NFL, but I'm more comparing their physical measurables not their passing ability/polish.
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No he can't. Guys who can't throw in college don't suddenly get great in the league.
Systems change and QBs develop. Hurts has definitely developed as a passer under Moore. Milroe makes some great throws. His arm and accuracy are very good at times, but his decision making and ability to throw receivers open are his weakness. I think that's where his inconsistency is and it can hopefully be improved if the Saints go that route.
I'm not a huge fan of Milroe because of everything you've pointed out, but also not opposed to drafting him if they don't need to reach for him.
You're entitled to your opinion but on a roster in such desperate need for players that can step in and start TODAY, burning a pick on a gadget QB player that wasn't great in college to come in and chase the ghost of Taysom Hill is stupid.
re: Jalen Milroe
Posted by JiminyCricket on 4/25/25 at 9:31 am
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Tough comparison with the coaching change at Bama for Milroe's last year.
Hurts spent 1 year at Oklahoma so he had a new coach too.
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I agree that Hurts was a more polished passing QB, they are comparable in many ways.
No they're not. Milroe isn't nearly the passer Hurts is. It's not even close.
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If Moore can develop Milroe as a consistent passer, he could be a franchise QB.
No he can't. Guys who can't throw in college don't suddenly get great in the league.
re: Jalen Milroe
Posted by JiminyCricket on 4/25/25 at 9:20 am
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Why? Milroe has the potential to be Hurts, who just dominated the NFL with the very coach that we have. If Milroe becomes an average passer, he is a league MVP. Hell, he may only have to throw the ball 10-15 times a game with the way he runs.
Because comparing Milroe as a thrower to Hurts is an insult to Hurts. We'll compare both of their final years in college.
Hurts threw for 1000 more yards, double the touchdowns with 3 less ints than Milroe.
Hurts was also a better rusher of the ball. He carried the ball 233 times for almost 1,300 yards and 20 TD's compared to Milroe who rushed 168 times for 726 yards and 20 TD's, effectively a yard per carry better. Most of Milroe's rushing stats came in one game against LSU as well while Hurts went over 100 yards 5 times.
If you take away both players best rushing game of the season the numbers look worse for Milroe. Adjusted for taking away Milroe's LSU game the numbers are...
Milroe 156 ATT/541 Yds/3.4 YPC/16 TD's
Hurts 217 ATT/1122 Yds/5.17 YPC/17 TD's
Jalen Milroe isn't in the same galaxy as Jalen Hurts and to claim otherwise is laughable.
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