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re: Hurricane/Tropical Storm Idalia Discussion Thread

Posted on 8/22/23 at 10:01 am to
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
25637 posts
Posted on 8/22/23 at 10:01 am to
quote:

once this forcefield erodes

Is there a projection when that’ll happen?
Posted by RockChalkTiger
A Little Bit South of Saskatoon
Member since May 2009
11114 posts
Posted on 8/22/23 at 10:04 am to
Bless his heart, he really tried! Where is this thing in the Yucatan next week going?
Posted by TejasHorn
High Plains Driftin'
Member since Mar 2007
11599 posts
Posted on 8/22/23 at 10:47 am to
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. Every clump of storms over water getting named.


Do y’all realize there is an automatic threshold for tropical storms and names?

Not literally everything is a conspiracy.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
21659 posts
Posted on 8/22/23 at 10:51 am to
quote:

Louisiana has a force field preventing any rain whatsoever.

Until I saw every storm actively running away from LA, I didn't realize the Heat Dome was a literal dome over Louisiana
Posted by PureBlood
The Motherland
Member since Oct 2021
5021 posts
Posted on 8/22/23 at 10:57 am to
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Until I saw every storm actively running away from LA, I didn't realize the Heat Dome was a literal dome over Louisiana



Just need it to stick around for a few more weeks.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61722 posts
Posted on 8/22/23 at 10:58 am to
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Do y’all realize there is an automatic threshold for tropical storms and names?


It’s amazing watching some of these folks with some of the stuff they come up with.
Posted by TheFonz
Somewhere in Louisiana
Member since Jul 2016
23237 posts
Posted on 8/22/23 at 11:06 am to
Got the following e-mail at work this morning. What say the experts here? I'm not looking at you, Tarzana or Peej.

Looks like mother nature is trying to bust our defense and get some points on the board before the half!

Harold is enjoying some Tex/Mex today, so we’re already past him… but next week, we may get to see a REAL storm in the Gulf.

It’s still too far out to accurately predict but the conditions seem to be on track for either Idalia or Jose to spool up sometime next week.

As you can see from the graphics below, a low pressure system is likely to form up over the Mexican Peninsula on Sunday and move into the Gulf through the week – now, if the El Nino winds keep blowing and that high pressure heat we’ve been roasting under hangs on, that should push the storm east over to FloraBama on Thursday.

Now again… this is all a week away, so there is no need to panic or stock up on libations, batteries and toilet paper just yet! Have it on your mind (and your grocery list) but no need to rush out today. As we get closer to next week, we’ll have a better idea of what (if anything) to expect from this… and as always, I’ll keep you posted!!

I can't post the graphics but basically it looks like something cooking up in the space between the Yucatan Peninsula and Cuba. Hopefully this is wishcasting that will go away in a few GFS runs.
This post was edited on 8/22/23 at 11:07 am
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
66049 posts
Posted on 8/22/23 at 11:08 am to
Blue shed laughs at this storm
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134784 posts
Posted on 8/22/23 at 11:12 am to
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automatic threshold
Are you saying there is no human making a decision to name a storm and it's "automatic" because some computer or algorithm assigns a name and publicizes it? I'm pretty sure that's not how it happens.

You don't think government bureaucrats at the NWS are inclined to fudge naming storms just a tad so that they can bring some positive attention/publicity to their government agency? "See!! We're needed! Don't cut our budget!"

I know I've looked at some satellite photos over the years which don't even show a circulation or any hint of a "swirl" in the storm, just a straight line of clouds, and the NWS says it's a tropical storm.

Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173467 posts
Posted on 8/22/23 at 11:15 am to
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Are you saying there is no human making a decision to name a storm and it's "automatic" because some computer or algorithm assigns a name and publicizes it? I'm pretty sure that's not how it happens.


Not what he is saying at all. He's saying that there is a windspeed threshold for named storms in response to this other dude saying every random storm is being named
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134784 posts
Posted on 8/22/23 at 11:26 am to
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He's saying that there is a windspeed threshold for named storms
You would be correct if wind speed alone is the criteria for a storm to be named. It's not.

Here is the criteria for naming a storm:
quote:

A warm-core non-frontal synoptic-scale cyclone, originating over tropical or subtropical waters, with organized deep convection and a closed surface wind circulation about a well-defined center. A tropical cyclone in which the maximum sustained surface wind speed (using the U.S. 1-minute average) ranges from 34 kt (39 mph or 63 km/hr).
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
109128 posts
Posted on 8/22/23 at 11:28 am to
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Not literally everything is a conspiracy.



Exactly what someone covering up a conspiracy would say.

Posted by ThePoo
Work
Member since Jan 2007
61599 posts
Posted on 8/22/23 at 11:28 am to
For the Record A lot of insurance companies have wind/hail deductibles which do not require a storm to be named, few have Hurricane Deductibles, which require it to be a hurricane and not simply a named storm, and a few have named storms (Storm deductibles come in 3 types)

In fact, post IDA I would say in Louisiana a wind/hail deductible is the most common storm deductible making the named storm argument a moot point for many if not most of us
This post was edited on 8/22/23 at 11:30 am
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42546 posts
Posted on 8/22/23 at 11:32 am to
quote:

You don't think government bureaucrats at the NWS are inclined to fudge naming storms just a tad so that they can bring some positive attention/publicity to their government agency? "See!! We're needed! Don't cut our budget!"


It’s like in baseball when the first or third base ump calls a check swing a strike. It’s in the eye of the beholder and yes I believe they are definitely naming more storms now than they once did. They definitely want the numbers up.
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36494 posts
Posted on 8/22/23 at 11:38 am to
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A warm-core non-frontal synoptic-scale cyclone, originating over tropical or subtropical waters, with organized deep convection and a closed surface wind circulation about a well-defined center. A tropical cyclone in which the maximum sustained surface wind speed (using the U.S. 1-minute average) ranges from 34 kt


Well defined center is typically the sticking point when classifying.

All of these have met that mark.

Harold was going to pop off with another 18-24 hours over water.

ETA: ACE is all that matters for defining a busy season. I know, the media will make a big deal about named storms, but the media are full of morons.
This post was edited on 8/22/23 at 11:41 am
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
51682 posts
Posted on 8/22/23 at 11:43 am to
Yeah, it seems like Harold got its act together as it was making landfall. Glad it didn’t have more time over water.
This post was edited on 8/22/23 at 11:44 am
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
74993 posts
Posted on 8/22/23 at 11:44 am to
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All of these have met that mark.

I put my foot down on Gert.
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36494 posts
Posted on 8/22/23 at 11:48 am to
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I put my foot down on Gert.


Meh.

It was good enough. And with these marginal cases, the lack of ACE makes it kinda moot in the big picture.
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
147072 posts
Posted on 8/22/23 at 12:06 pm to
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If you would like to watch the storm roll ashore today... I recommend watching NASASpaceflight's 24/7 live cameras at SpaceX's Starship R&D facility in Boca Chica on YouTube

SpaceX decided today... near a landfalling tropical storm... would be a great day to roll Super Heavy Booster 9 back out to the launch mount to prepare for the 2nd fully integrated Starship test flight
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
102532 posts
Posted on 8/22/23 at 12:18 pm to
I swear Franklin has been sitting in same spot for 3 days
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