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Writers must have smoked all the pot when they put that in the script
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Why would I give an example of how we can save money and not use the exact way we can save money?

Because I stopped assuming people understand how the cap works.

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By 2027 when we have more space and less dead money then the smaller chunks of desd money won't really hurt as much.

Like I said, if you’re trying to cut players to get rid of dead contracts; eat as much of that now and get the future caps cleaned up. If you’re trying to be aggressive in free agency; then by all means make some of these as post 6/01 moves and get some 2027 draft picks while splitting the hit over the 2 years

re: Remaining Schedule

Posted by Weekend Warrior79 on 12/8/25 at 4:41 pm to
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Nobody expected them to do anything this year. The offense had to find an identity with a new coach & starting QB

Anyone remember all the 0-17 & worst roster in NFL history threads :lol:
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That's $31mil in savings. How did you get $19?

Because I did not factor in the post 6/01 savings since the only way you get post 6/01 savings is if you trade them after 6/01.

Also, don't know if you factored in the fact that when you do these post 6/01 savings, the money doesn't go away. It just gets tacked onto the next year's (2027) dead money. If the purpose is to clear as much cap to cut dead weight, you wouldn't want to push too many of these into future years or you start screwing up 2027's cap.

If it's to clear space to try to bring in big time FAs, then you'd want to have a few of these post 6/01 savings. But as stated you cannot designate a trade as post 6/01; you would have to hold the player until June to make that move.
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Maybe you have the 3-10 teams reversed. Harder to win with a stronger strength of schedule.


NFL.com
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In situations where teams finished the previous season with identical records, the determination of draft position is decided by strength of schedule — the aggregate winning percentage of a team’s opponents. The team that played the schedule with the lowest winning percentage will be awarded the higher pick.

The logic being if a team with a lower SOS achieved a similar record as a team with a higher SOS, the lower team would pick first because they are most likely a weaker team.

re: Cap guys

Posted by Weekend Warrior79 on 12/8/25 at 1:29 pm to
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Any player that has a pulse and started before will be better than Ruiz….

He may hit the market :lol:

re: Cap guys

Posted by Weekend Warrior79 on 12/8/25 at 12:27 pm to
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Olave is the only salaried player whose extension would really save anything, and that could be up to around $14 mil.

I'm hoping that he doesn't get into the "I need to reset the market" mindset and they can work on a deal to extend him.

Of the ones that are about to have the void years hit, I can see them working with Demario if he really wants to play another 2-3 years, maybe save another $5M here.

Maybe Foster also, but his is a minimal hit/savings.

I think Cam is ready to retire, and they need to move on from Taysom.
So, they created the soft children then mock those that they perceive to be soft. Typical boomer :lol:
Just saw that the league uses SOS has a tie breaker with teams with similar records. Teams with a lower SOS will draft higher as they achieved the same record with a weaker schedule. With that, appears Saints are now in the 7th slot:

1st LVR: 2-11, .572 SOS
2nd Tenn: 2-11, .589 SOS
3rd NYG: 2-11, .602 SOS
4th Clev: 3-10, .464 SOS
5th tie NYJ: 3-10, .518 SOS
5th tie Wash: 3-10, .518 SOS
7th NO: 3-10, .556 SOS
8th AZ: 3-10, .592 SOS

Not trying to break down the 5th or 6th slot between NYJ or Wash as the league has different rules for team tied after SOS depending on division, conference, or neither

re: Cap guys

Posted by Weekend Warrior79 on 12/8/25 at 12:04 pm to
I am aware of that, but I differentiated it because Mickey can still minimize that number by giving any/all of them an extension before the new league year.
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1) Boomers grew up when "participation trophies" didn't exist
I remember talking to my neighbor, who's in his 70s, about youth sports today.

He chuckled when I mentioned how every kid on my son's soccer team gets a trophy at the end of the season, regardless of how they performed.

"Back in my day," he said, "you got a trophy if you won. Period."....

What was the generation that started giving all of the kids trophies. The older generations love talking about how soft kids these days are because they all get a trophy, but it wasn't the kids that started the process
The timing of the bowl games? How many other sports have games with no shot at a championship played between semesters? There are a number of colleges that have already ended their fall semester or are currently having final exams. These students then get about 1 month off until the Spring semester. If there is a bowl game to be played, these guys are having to stick around and continue the grind for another 2-3 weeks just to play 1 more game?

And, if players are expecting to hit the portal, do they want to put their body through more practices and a game for a team they may not play for next season?
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How about just let Coach Kiffin handle it

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Someone posted we’ve been close to top ten.

I did not realize this.

Saints ranked 12th in total defense giving up 313.5 yards per game. Buf is 10th at 307.1

6th in passing yards at 182.6
24th in rushing yards at 130.9

In addition to the run defense, what is killing them is the scoring defense. 21st giving up 24.2 points per game. Jax is 10th at 20.9
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Has to be exaggerating.

I buy 93/7 or 96/4 and its no more than $8.99

Had been hearing about the rising beef prices, but we loaded up on the packs of 93/7 in early November and I haven't bought any since. Pretty sure I made burgers yesterday with my last 2 packs, so I guess I'll find out in about soon
If you want to try to compare yourself to other people, try figuring out what you will be doing from 9-5 when you're 65+; and take a guess what a lot of these people will be doing.

There are obviously plenty of exceptions, but a lot of the people that I know that talk about their new cars, updated houses, lavish vacations, get very quiet and have nothing to contribute when discussions about retirement accounts, brokerage accounts, the stock market, etc. come up.

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spending 10 dollars on ground beef

This legit, or exaggerating a little?
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Cut:
Taysom/ AK/ Godchaux/ Shepherd
= $22mil savings

Taysom has a void hit of $13.7M against the 2026 cap hit. There is nothing the team can do except extend him before the new league year (which they should NOT) to avoid/reduce that number. Cutting the rest saves $1.5M; unless you make some a post 6/01 cap hit, then you can push a lot of that into 2027. But that defeats the purpose of trying to clean up the cap

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Trade:
Olave/ Ruiz/ McCoy/ JJ/ Werner/ Yiadom
= $54mil savings

That savings is only $19M, and mainly because you will be dropping Olave's entire $15.5M cap hit.

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DD/ Cam = $18mil savings if THEY want out

Have $33M void hit about to hit the books unless they extend before the league new year
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Are they both FAs after this season? Wonder if we try and bring back 1 more year

Pretty sure Cam wants to retire. There is a shot he does a 1-year extension to have a sendoff year or if he wants to chase stats (does not seem the type to do this); but he's getting ready for his career after he leaves.

Demario has said he wants 3 more years. I do not know if that comment included 2025; but either way, I can see him signing a small extension to stay here and relieve some of the cap hit that's expected to hit.

re: Cap guys

Posted by Weekend Warrior79 on 12/8/25 at 8:58 am to
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We’re definitely going to spend some of the money this offseason and piss off people who still want us to be in tank mode

Can't avoid spending some money when you only have 39 players on the active roster for next season. They also have $65.8M in dead money, with another $48.2M set to hit the books unless they extend Taysom, Cam, Demario or Foster before the new league year

re: Cap guys

Posted by Weekend Warrior79 on 12/8/25 at 8:56 am to
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Do they have to wait till 2027 to spend the available money

Invision Loomis' face on this gif


An "easy" way to manipulate the cap with new signing would be to give a player a moderate singing bonus paid out at the contract, but hits the cap in years 1 - 5, a decent 1st year (2026) salary, and a larger guaranteed salary in year 2 (2027). You then have language in that contract to automatically convert a significant portion of that salary into a bonus on xx date, and you get to spread those funds over years 2-6.

This is how Mickey gets the "cap genius" title when the team is winning and will have those some people getting their pitchforks ready when they are losing.
It’s a terrible play design when the QB should have taken the sack instead of trying to make the throw