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re: Huge chess world upset of grandmaster sparks wild claims of cheating

Posted on 9/15/22 at 12:00 pm to
Posted by WaterLink
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 9/15/22 at 12:00 pm to
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So all you have to do is sit in the crowd, plug the moves into your smartphone, and signal the smartphone's recommended move to the player.


An engine running on a smartphone isn't as strong as an engine on a PC, it can't get to enough depth. I think Magnus could beat a smartphone powered engine.

I highly doubt if there was cheating that it was anything electronic, it's far more likely that it was leaked what Magnus' prep was. If you can narrow down your study to the opening that Magnus is planning then it eases your prep tremendously. Hans being so prepared for a novelty line that he said he studied, despite Magnus never playing it before and Hans saying he studied one of Magnus' games and referencing a specific game where it didn't apply lends some credence to that theory.

As much as anal beads would be funny that was just an Elon Musk troll post that everyone ran with.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 9/15/22 at 12:01 pm to
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Bobby Fischer


Was not a fan of the Jews
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
54850 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 12:02 pm to
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Truth be told, he was going off the rails when active in chess and imagined all sorts of crazy things were being done to him by the Russians when he met for matches against their players, and especially Boris Spassky.


To be fair, it was the Cold War
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55605 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 12:07 pm to
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Well I think the main stink is that the winner really didn't seem to understand how he won, and that's impossible at that level.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
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Posted on 9/15/22 at 12:13 pm to
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Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
14073 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 12:46 pm to
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What does this mean?



White moves first, so person playing with white has a slight advantage. To put it in terms of other sports it's analogous to a home team in baseball getting the bottom of the inning or getting to receive the second half kickoff in football.
This post was edited on 9/15/22 at 12:49 pm
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112918 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 12:59 pm to
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White moves first, so person playing with white has a slight advantage. To put it in terms of other sports it's analogous to a home team in baseball getting the bottom of the inning or getting to receive the second half kickoff in football.

Thanks

Posted by Original Corn Pop
The public pool
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 9/15/22 at 1:14 pm to
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Has our society devolved so much as to have the Chicken Overlord actually speculate as to the Anal-bead vibrating strategy to cheat at a game of chess?

God, help us all.


Possibly the best post I've ever read on the OT.....
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 9/15/22 at 1:17 pm to
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 9/15/22 at 1:30 pm to
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But, I'm fairly certain these players walk through metal detectors before they play; so how did he get the buzzer in?


They do a basic wanding at bigger tournaments, they really went at Hans before his next match much more than normal.

Here is a video of them checking him out:

YT

Could he have won without cheating, absolutely. Could he have not explained why he did what he did at the critical point in the match, extremely unlikely.
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
20050 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 2:13 pm to
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Was not a fan of the Jews


And yet his mother was born to Polish Jews. Go figure.
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
20050 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 2:17 pm to
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To be fair, it was the Cold War



And what exactly would that have to do with playing a game of chess under the scrutiny of judges, a live audience, cameras broadcasting it to chess geeks around the world, the press in attendance, playing under library like silent conditions, etc.

It's just 2 people on opposite sides of a table moving little game pieces around a checkered board. No nukes, no spy planes, no deadly nerve gases, threats of strikes and counterstrikes......Just a parlor game, but one played at an extremely professional level.
Posted by Mr Breeze
The Lunatic Fringe
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 9/15/22 at 2:26 pm to

Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
47673 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 3:22 pm to
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quote:

vibrating “anal beads”








Our fowl master for the win.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
54850 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 3:32 pm to
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And what exactly would that have to do with playing a game of chess under the scrutiny of judges, a live audience, cameras broadcasting it to chess geeks around the world, the press in attendance, playing under library like silent conditions, etc. It's just 2 people on opposite sides of a table moving little game pieces around a checkered board. No nukes, no spy planes, no deadly nerve gases, threats of strikes and counterstrikes......Just a parlor game, but one played at an extremely professional level.
and you don’t think an ideology that roided up female swimmers and lifters would try to find a way to cheat at chess? Everything the US and Soviets did against each other was hyped like a Super Bowl
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
20050 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 3:49 pm to
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Everything the US and Soviets did against each other was hyped like a Super Bowl





You're actually trying to compare a couple of competitions that require physical prowess of speed, strength and endurance against a board game played by 2 people most consider nerds.

Roids or other performance enhancing drugs won't help you in chess. It is a cerebral game who's actions are dictated by what's between the ears of the competitors and how well they have studied their opponents probability of moves and gambits.
Posted by BoogaBear
Member since Jul 2013
7355 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 3:53 pm to
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vibrating “anal beads”


Got a model number?
Posted by holdem Tiger
Member since Oct 2007
1257 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 4:15 pm to
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White moves first, so person playing with white has a slight advantage. To put it in terms of other sports it's analogous to a home team in baseball getting the bottom of the inning or getting to receive the second half kickoff in football.

Thanks


Its a much bigger advantage than that. A better analogy is going last in a college overtime period.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
37341 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 4:27 pm to
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So all you have to do is sit in the crowd, plug the moves into your smartphone, and signal the smartphone's recommended move to the player
It would be funny if someone brought in a device to latch onto the beads' frequency and then just triggered them the whole match.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
37341 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 4:29 pm to
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Rather play her
Especially if she promised to play with anal beads. I would make crazy moves and then just watch her decide her next move.

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