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re: Huge chess world upset of grandmaster sparks wild claims of cheating

Posted on 9/15/22 at 10:46 am to
Posted by sportsaddit68
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Posted on 9/15/22 at 10:46 am to
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there's about to be a wave of OnlyFans hoes going out and buying a chess set today.


Naughty Chess. The official sport of Chaturbate.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 9/15/22 at 10:48 am to
Where is SFP on this one?
Posted by TigrrrDad
Member since Oct 2016
8112 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 10:51 am to
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How did someone discover this


They didn’t. Someone on the internet basically said that is one possible way to cheat, so they ran with it to make people read the story.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88021 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 10:55 am to
The issue is that he made multiple, never-done-before moves that the engines had as the best move possible for black at the time. And then he couldn’t really explain himself in the interview right after the match.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75203 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 11:06 am to
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Nobody has conceived of a viable mechanism for how Hans could have cheated in the tournament.

So, your saying this whole thing is a bit of a stretch?
Posted by riverdiver
Summerville SC
Member since May 2022
2991 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 11:09 am to
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Cheating in chess huh? This is what we have come to. End up losing so the go to is to claim cheating


Need to form a J6 - type commission.

Start seizing cellphones at Hardee’s drive throughs.

Ban chess commentators from social media.

This is something we really need to get a grip on immediately. If not, thousands of school aged kids will start cheating at Go Fish or Rock Paper Scissors.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477231 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 11:12 am to
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can someone explain in football or golf terms how big of an upset this was?

The Chiefs losing to a 6th grade girls flag football team
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477231 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 11:15 am to
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Where is SFP on this one?

I only take allegations of cheating in poker seriously
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112918 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 11:19 am to
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“We have invited Neimann to provide an explanation and response with the hope of finding a resolution where Neimann can again participate on Chess.com.”
Explanation for what exactly?

From what I gather, he beat a dude as a huge underdog. The dude said the only way he could lose is if the other guy cheated, so now the other guy is banned from chess.com and being demanded an explanation...for what?




But I'm here for the hilarity around the vibrating anal beads.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112918 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 11:20 am to
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I read the whole article. Basically low ranked guy beats high ranked guy and some internet trolls came up with a theory that he used vibrating anal toys to cheat… it’s pretty gross that they even ran a story and mentioned those allegations with literally zero evidence that he cheated (especially that he had something in his butt to do it).

Yea, I'm trying to figure out what I missed from the article that had him banned from the Global Championship and demanding he provide an explanation for...beating an opponent.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112918 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 11:22 am to
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This would be like a bottom 25, solid team at home defeating a #1. Certainly a big deal, but not unheard of

I assume you mean a team at the bottom of the top 25?


Either way, even if it was soooooo absolutely unbelievable that he could pull off this upset, if simply beating this grandmaster dude gets you banned, then why would opponents of that caliber even be allowed to play dudes that good?
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Member since Jan 2011
72109 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 11:23 am to
Chess isn't like baseball. You cant really get lucky.
Posted by adamau
Member since Oct 2020
4305 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 11:24 am to
This story is creating intense vibrations throughout the chess world.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112918 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 11:25 am to
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Chess isn't like baseball. You cant really get lucky.

So...if there's zero chance a lesser player could possibly beat this Grandmaster dude, then they should never ever be matched up and playing each other.


Otherwise, what's the point? If the lesser dudes wins, he quite literally gets banned for...winning?
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Member since Jan 2011
72109 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 11:29 am to
Well I think the main stink is that the winner really didn't seem to understand how he won, and that's impossible at that level.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112918 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 11:40 am to
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but to crush him with black pieces (slight disadvantage)
What does this mean?
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
19624 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 11:50 am to
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How does the person on the computer know what moves the opponent is making? Are these events streamed live?


Yes. Chess tournaments always have a big board on the wall so spectators can follow the game live. This has happened for many decades.

So all you have to do is sit in the crowd, plug the moves into your smartphone, and signal the smartphone's recommended move to the player.

Since computers are so much better than humans nowadays, this has become a real problem.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477231 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 11:51 am to
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What does this mean?

Who goes first
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477231 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 11:52 am to
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So...if there's zero chance a lesser player could possibly beat this Grandmaster dude, then they should never ever be matched up and playing each other.

I don't think Magnus plays that often for this reason. I'm not an expert.

I always thought of top chess guys like top poker guys. They only play so much to keep their ranking but mostly face off against the very tip top.
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
20050 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 11:54 am to
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They both look autistic.


No shite. Look at Bobby Fischer, the former World Chess Champion from the U.S.

He was certifiably nuts and seriously went off the rails after leaving chess behind and living like a recluse the rest of his life.

Truth be told, he was going off the rails when active in chess and imagined all sorts of crazy things were being done to him by the Russians when he met for matches against their players, and especially Boris Spassky.
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