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It would have been wild to see him try to do it with this Iran conflict.


It would have certainly been a test of him to avoid hypocrisy while also avoiding whatever it is Tucker and Candace are doing.
There are a lot of people with recent confusion over what a doctor is who need to understand that comment.
This is the problem with creating a movement/organization based around a cult of personality more than reasoned principles.

Principles out last our meat suits.

Movements based on people cease when that person stops (death or otherwise)
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Also irrelevant.

Not irrelevant at all.

If a VA voter's vote counts in the determining system, it's not disenfranchised.

So if the VA voters' votes aren't removed from that national tally, there is no disenfranchisement.

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BTW, is Virginia expected to shift red, because democrooks and rebublicucks sure as frick wouldn’t be passing this law if it were expected to remain blue.

Naw it's solidly bluish purple.

This system is just virtue signaling for DEM state governments.

Then when the next GOP takeover happens, they'll virtue signal by rescinding it. And so on, and so forth.
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Did the police act in accordance to their protocols or not is the only question to be asked.

So frustrating

Yeah I'm critical of cops when they screw up (which is often) but these LEO did nothing wrong. At all.

re: Champions League QF 2nd legs

Posted by SlowFlowPro on 4/15/26 at 7:43 am to
These recent Barca-AM matches have been INSANE. So many yellows and reds.

But, as always, frick Barca.

Arsenal losing and Real pulling off the miracle will be so good for this board.
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so why would anyone bother to vote there??

How else would you get a national vote tally?
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Precisely. Who Virginians vote for is irrelevant.


In this system is the VA legislature deciding to remove the VA votes from the national tally to determine the national winner?
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I really cant see how this is legal. You are disenfranchising the voters of VA.

But, it's not.

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You are assigning all the states electoral college votes to how the rest of the country voted.

And the VA votes count in that tally, so there is no disenfranchisement.

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So why even count votes for POTUS or even have the POTUS election on the ballot if it means nothing.

How do you tally a national vote without counting all of the votes?
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Trapped himself with a logical falacy

Did not happen

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Doing this to any states voters is the definition of disenfranchisement.

Only if those votes don't count. Nobody has shown how that would occur in this system.
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Yet the Biden administration did the exact same fricking thing.


They used a statute that didn't authorize tariffs to enact tariffs? Link?
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I swear you are intentionally obtuse.

Because I understand the history of things like ballot harvesting, and know they didn't start in CA b/c of Covid?

That argument works for other states, but not CA.

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Ballot harvesting was much easier during covid.


Ballot harvesting in CA predates Covid by a few election cycles.
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Yeah your 1/34th vote


If your vote counts equally to all other votes, it, by definition, is not disenfranchised.

Our current system (which gives the GOP a naturally advantage due to how small GOP states get over-allocated EC seats) would actually be more disenfranchising, but that's for another discussion.
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Because there wasn't the cover of covid.


Fewer DEMs voted for the DEM candidate in states like California and New York because there wasn't...covid?
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Except for the will of the people in your own motherfricking state you dumbass.

Their role is electing the state legislature that determines how the state allocates its EV reps

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Because if a candidate wins the election in your state then guess what? The people elected him! I

Only in the current system.

We are discussing a proposed alternative system.

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What is impossible for your pedantic, douchebag brain to get about it?


You still haven't addressed how the votes of those voters are counted in that national election.

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It literally doesn’t matter who wins the popular vote!

We're discussing a state enacting a system where the national popular vote does matter, though.

You just keep trying to avoid having the actual discussion and trying to conflate it with a discussion about our current system, for some reason. I'm guessing to use exclamation points.

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You have to be the biggest cocksucking faggót on this entire site man. You fricking know your argument is bullshite and you fricking know what you’re spouting is wrong.

I'm not wrong. You haven't even addressed my actual point. You just keep avoiding that conversation to discuss the status quo.

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It isn’t that you’re constantly in the wrong. It’s the manner in which you do it so confidently, so arrogantly, and so smugly.

This would have been a PERFECT opportunity to use one of those exclamation points you like so much.

*ETA: Let's just start from the beginning. You do realize a state legislature could vote to assign the EC based off the governor's unilateral desires or a coin flip, right? Or, hell...if the state lotto numbers end in an even or odd number. No elections, just one of those methods. You do understand those would be legal, right?
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I bet if National Voter ID and other election security measures passed, they'd back off this compact with the quickness.



DEMS have a pretty sizeable lead in the national popular vote. They may lose some of that, but unless they're in another 2024 situation, they're pretty safe.

And 2024 likely doesn't go how it did if we had a national vote. Remember, Kamala didn't get Biden's 81M b/c of DEM voters in DEM states primarily. Those states still went to Kamala, but not by the margin they would have had a national vote mattered.

Protesting with wasted votes is much easier than protesting with meaningful votes.
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We don't vote for president in a national election.

Nothing prevents a state from using that to assign their electoral votes. You do realize this, right?

They could do it on a coin flip.

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We vote for presidential.electors in a state election.

Only under the current system. We are discussing an alternative system.

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One side loses at the state level and the electors for the winning side will cast their ballot.

Again, you're describing the current system and ignoring the alternative system we're discussing.

Again, there is no requirement that any vote is held. You do realize that, right?

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However, under this scheme, the winners may not get their electors, because voters in other states decided to the contrary.

Voters *nationally decide how the EC reps are allocated.

The individual voters within that state would have their votes counted equally with all other votes cast nationally, which is the determining system in that alternative system.

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Thus, negating the votes in that state.

Again, you're conflating the current system with the alternative system.

Try discussing what we're discussing.

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Holy shite you're stupid

No. You're making a bad argument and don't like the absurdity of it being pointed out.
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Do you not grasp that when you are voting in a presidential election, you are not voting in a national.elecrion.

You're conflating the current system in LA with the proposed alternative system

In the alternative system, you would be voting in a national election.

Your vote would be counted within that national tally, so it could not be disenfranchised.

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This "compact" absolutely invalidates someone's vote (those that voted rhe opposite of the "national" vote)

Now you're arguing the absurdity that any losing side in an election has been disenfranchised :lol:

Stop

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and further usurps the role of the electors.

The electors' role is to vote as the state commands, how the state determines those commands. They have no role otherwise.