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re: Bacon may disappear in California as pig rules take effect

Posted on 7/31/21 at 3:31 pm to
Posted by shell01
Marianna, FL
Member since Jul 2014
793 posts
Posted on 7/31/21 at 3:31 pm to
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You have options now to purchase "ethically raised" animals, and if this is an important thing to you, please do so.


I do. And I can tell you that the number of farms providing humanely raised meat has risen substantially in the last 10-15 years.

I'm not saying I'm in favor of legislating it, just saying that farms will adapt as California is a huge market.

And this is anything but PETA-esque. PETA, HSUS, etc are crackpots who think we shouldn't even have pets much less working animals or livestock.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
65587 posts
Posted on 7/31/21 at 3:37 pm to
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You say this about everything but you’re one of those lives that CARES about everyone’s opinion that is different than yours Mao.


Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
65485 posts
Posted on 7/31/21 at 3:39 pm to
“Killing Hogs”

If done enough, I think society would be much better off.
Posted by biohzrd
Central City
Member since Jan 2010
5602 posts
Posted on 7/31/21 at 3:41 pm to
What about wild hogs? Doesn’t get much more organic then that. Seems like some southern baws can corner the entire California pork market.
This post was edited on 7/31/21 at 3:42 pm
Posted by Big Jim Slade
Member since Oct 2016
4912 posts
Posted on 7/31/21 at 3:41 pm to
Restaurants should just bring the pigs/ pork in from Mexico illegally. I’m certain their government won’t have a problem with that.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
65587 posts
Posted on 7/31/21 at 3:42 pm to

Would love to know which Razorback(s) ran train on your girl.
Posted by Jay Are
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2014
4830 posts
Posted on 7/31/21 at 3:46 pm to
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anything that is bad for california is a good thing


Anything that is bad for California makes Californians move to other states and drive up real estate and housing prices.
Posted by chinese58
NELA. after 30 years in Dallas.
Member since Jun 2004
30339 posts
Posted on 7/31/21 at 3:47 pm to
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is it we've seen too many cute pig videos on the tik tok that we decided they need more space
Some politician probably saw a hog licking the sh*t running down another hog's hind legs, while fighting for a spot at the trough.

If you make their pen larger, they'll still bunch up around the trough. All they do is eat, sleep, and then fight for a spot to eat again. I've never seen them sleeping if food is available.

I speak as an expert. One spring, I laid out of school and worked for a NELA man who was named Louisiana Hog Farmer of the Year multiple times.
Posted by Unobtanium
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2009
1592 posts
Posted on 7/31/21 at 3:51 pm to
Sorry, "PETA-tax" had a nice ring to it. I sincerely applaud your commitment to your principles where it counts most - your pocketbook.

I hope you can appreciate that for many people, the price difference between "ethical" bacon and the regular kind will be more than they can afford. And no, they don't have a 'right' to eat bacon, but damn, a BLT sure is tasty.

I find it puzzling that California - where "diverse" behavior is so widespread - chooses the welfare of farm animals as the moral hill upon which it chooses a fight. I'll say no more as I'm treading on PoliBoard territory.
Posted by Abstract Queso Dip
Member since Mar 2021
5878 posts
Posted on 7/31/21 at 3:58 pm to
From what I read it was only the Mama's that they were lobbying for bigger pens.

There should be some loosening of the rules on the logistics. Local grocery store should be able to sell products from a local farm/slaughterhouse. But there is a lot of red tape to get into being a "certified" shop. You'll see local at restaurants and farmer's markets other wise you have to go straight to the source. That's not the way in other countries.
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
44668 posts
Posted on 7/31/21 at 3:58 pm to
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At the beginning of next year, California will begin enforcing an animal welfare proposition approved overwhelmingly by voters in 2018 that requires more space for breeding pigs, egg-laying chickens and veal calves. National veal and egg producers are optimistic they can meet the new standards, but only 4% of hog operations now comply with the new rules. Unless the courts intervene or the state temporarily allows non-compliant meat to be sold in the state, California will lose almost all of its pork supply, much of which comes from Iowa, and pork producers will face higher costs to regain a key market.


frick California. You get what you vote for.
Posted by SPEEDY
2005 Tiger Smack Poster of the Year
Member since Dec 2003
83327 posts
Posted on 7/31/21 at 4:01 pm to
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Bacon may disappear in California as pig rules take effect


Thought this was gonna be about defunding the police
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
29987 posts
Posted on 7/31/21 at 4:05 pm to
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And this is anything but PETA-esque.


You actually typed this
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
136791 posts
Posted on 7/31/21 at 4:05 pm to
The compliant farms will take in huge profits due to decreased supply

The higher end spots will still get plenty of bacon. They will just pass the cost on to the customer
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6--Brazos River Backwater
Member since Sep 2015
26104 posts
Posted on 7/31/21 at 4:17 pm to
We'll happily export as many feral hogs from Texas as we can round up and ship out there, for a fee of course.

These animals are an ungodly nuisance here, but they're good eating. And they multiply in biblical proportions. They can supply Californians with good clean bacon for the next 100 years.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
118850 posts
Posted on 7/31/21 at 4:18 pm to
I'm good with bacon staying east of California
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
123863 posts
Posted on 7/31/21 at 4:53 pm to
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The higher end spots will still get plenty of bacon. They will just pass the cost on to the customer


The poors will just steal it and smuggle it out between their chonky butts.


How do their bottom regions get so disproportionately massive?
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
66670 posts
Posted on 7/31/21 at 5:05 pm to
1) California can suffer, fricks given
2) You get what you vote for
3) Don’t California my Texas when you move here because you realize how dumb your state is.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58540 posts
Posted on 7/31/21 at 5:10 pm to
You sure do love your horrible factory farming.

God forbid we treat our animal food sources humanely.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19082 posts
Posted on 7/31/21 at 5:27 pm to
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anything that is bad for california is a good thing


And then they move to a place like Bozeman, and destroy it in a single year
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