re: Shams re: Herb and Trey could be traded before draft

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now that he’s taking his job serious

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Only thing he took serious was games played, so he could guarantee his money last season.

Hoping my man Herb is traded on draft night to one of several "serious" playoff teams. I won't give my preferences...but...I definitely have a couple in mind.

Bottom line...great for Herb...great for the team Herb goes to...and (should be) great for the Pelicans.

Ohh...and great for Dinky...although I like to think he's being objective in his opinion on this subject.

We are so cooked

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How good is Trey?

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This is where there is a major division amongst fans. They tried to make Murphy a focus of the offense for the past 3 years. He's been given carte blanc to jack up as many shots as he wants. His numbers have been ok, but they are star level and we have been God awful the past 2 years (where he had his best success).

The truth is he needs to be reigned in and be a contributor to a system. Probably more as a 3rd option or specialist. Him throwing up 8+ 3pt is probably not the best idea every game, and he's fallen into bad habits. If he stays here, I think he stagnated or even gets worse. This is ignoring his injury history and poor body development. He shouldn't be missing 20% of games every year, especially being a finesse player that avoids contact.

I honestly thought Bey played better last year and I don't see moving Murphy as a huge lose. It needs to happen now though. He's been dangled too much..

My buddy and I legit argued about Trey’s role. My argument was if you throw Trey into the Finals, on either the Spurs or Knicks, where does he rank? My buddy thought he would be the second options on both teams, which I thought was insane. My point was I could see him being a third option at best, but maybe even down to like 4th or 5th.

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My buddy and I legit argued about Trey’s role. My argument was if you throw Trey into the Finals, on either the Spurs or Knicks, where does he rank? My buddy thought he would be the second options on both teams, which I thought was insane. My point was I could see him being a third option at best, but maybe even down to like 4th or 5th.

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That is a tough one, since both teams role players are focused on defense. He should start for both, but he'd be replacing high energy 3D guys (Hart and Champagnie). Those guys are specialists that had big games. I think that Murphy can do that, but his defense would have to jump massively.

Weird thing happened in the Finals and playoffs. 3pt shooting wasn't the priority and attempts came down. It was about getting effective shots. The Celtics got run early (highest volume team) and others teams seemed to take notice. The Knicks shot about 34 a game and seemed to be hunting the best looks. It's a copycat league and I'm wondering how this affects the league going forward..

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My buddy thought he would be the second options on both teams

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your buddy is a fricking moron

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: it probably will depend on who's sitting there at 11 when that pick comes up.

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Trading Trey based on a pick that has a low % to become as good as Trey is madness

you know trey was drafted at 17 right. does that mean at 17 they had an even lower percent chance to get a good player and it worked out. Draft is a crap shoot, every year there are players picks in the teens, that out perform players picked earlier.

Trey has done all he can do for us. Were you happy they held on to BI as long as they did, or were you mad they didn't get maximum value by trading him earlier. It can't be both ways. Trade him while teams are fighting over him get as much as you can for him now.