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Dinky Mulberry
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re: Pelicans interested in Kuminga and Lamelo
Posted by Dinky Mulberry on 11/28/25 at 3:27 pm to duyp
I would guess the Warriors AND the Lakers....would BOTH find Herb to be more valuable than Trey...given their current roster situation. I'm NOT saying another team wouldn't see more value in obtaining Trey...than in getting Herb...but it's just a rather unique situation...for Warriors and Lakers.
January 15 is a looong way off...when considering "moving" Herb...things could totally change...by then.
January 15 is a looong way off...when considering "moving" Herb...things could totally change...by then.
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re: Zion for Kon Knueppel straight up.
Posted by Dinky Mulberry on 11/24/25 at 12:01 pm to Dinky Mulberry
I'm not saying Kon will be better than Cooper Flagg...but I'm NOT saying he won't be either !!!!
re: Zion for Kon Knueppel straight up.
Posted by Dinky Mulberry on 11/24/25 at 11:58 am to Dantheman504
Kon is MUCH better than people think...they wouldn't trade him straight up for Zion...imo
re: Dyson vs Herb season long thread
Posted by Dinky Mulberry on 11/23/25 at 4:57 pm to 50_Tiger
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How about both Herb and DD are bad and luckily Herb can be traded Jan 16th
I actually think both are vey "liquid"...as far as trade value is concerned. Herb has the advantage due to current salary situation...but that's assuming DD is about to become a bit overpaid considering his current shooting status ...but if DD can somehow improve that shooting ability...coupled with his age advantage...well...who knows...two months is a looong way off...let's hope everybody just stays healthy
re: Dyson vs Herb season long thread
Posted by Dinky Mulberry on 11/23/25 at 4:43 pm to whatiknowsofar
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Lmfao. You just dont get it. Dyson is an awful shooter, herb is hurt, yet is still a comparable player to dyson on defense and is still shooting 3s and fts better.
I really like DD...but...I have been very disappointed in his shooting. Keep thinking he is going to make a huge improvement. As odd as it sounds...we place quite a bit of importance on analyzing free throw improvement as much as outside shooting early in a player's career...in trying to predict a player's future shooting ability.
Without getting too much into the weeds on this...I learned this concept from someone I greatly respect in the analytics world...and it has served us well.
re: Does Queen's garbage time steal and dunk actually bother anyone?
Posted by Dinky Mulberry on 11/23/25 at 2:12 pm to JayVegas702
The fact that I doubt you will ever see Queen do something like that again...under those circumstances...should answer your question as to whether or not Queen was waaaay out of line.
They were gonna "take" a turnover and had already shook hands...can't believe we're actually discussing whether this was a good "look" or not.
But...no big deal in the grand scheme of things...& Queen will learn from his mistake.
They were gonna "take" a turnover and had already shook hands...can't believe we're actually discussing whether this was a good "look" or not.
But...no big deal in the grand scheme of things...& Queen will learn from his mistake.
re: Dyson vs Herb season long thread
Posted by Dinky Mulberry on 11/23/25 at 1:36 pm to Townedrunkard
Obviously...DD & Herb are BOTH...great defenders. A bit "different" but...both...great.
Offensively...they are about as different as they could possibly be...for 2 players that are fairly close to the same size.
Offensively, the LAST thing... that DD wants to do...is shoot an open C&S 3...which is fairly easy to figure out when you realize he's taking 13.1% of his shots from the 3-pt line...and shooting a truly horrible % which I won't bother to quote. (It's REALLY bad)
Offensively, the FIRST thing... that Herb wants to do...is shoot an open C&S 3...which is why he takes 48.9% of his shots from the 3-pt line (actually it's 54.6% but I digress)...and is shooting a respectible 36.2% on 3s this season.
So...it basically just gets down to which "style" fits your team's makeup better. Do you want someone at that position who can stretch the floor and requires guarding at the 3-pt line which should help open up things inside...OR...do you want somebody who is a bit better on the inside...but is gonna make things quite crowded for any players who would be better with more freedom inside and not have to deal with the extra player who is "playing off" DD ?? Pretty simple decision...imo
Offensively...they are about as different as they could possibly be...for 2 players that are fairly close to the same size.
Offensively, the LAST thing... that DD wants to do...is shoot an open C&S 3...which is fairly easy to figure out when you realize he's taking 13.1% of his shots from the 3-pt line...and shooting a truly horrible % which I won't bother to quote. (It's REALLY bad)
Offensively, the FIRST thing... that Herb wants to do...is shoot an open C&S 3...which is why he takes 48.9% of his shots from the 3-pt line (actually it's 54.6% but I digress)...and is shooting a respectible 36.2% on 3s this season.
So...it basically just gets down to which "style" fits your team's makeup better. Do you want someone at that position who can stretch the floor and requires guarding at the 3-pt line which should help open up things inside...OR...do you want somebody who is a bit better on the inside...but is gonna make things quite crowded for any players who would be better with more freedom inside and not have to deal with the extra player who is "playing off" DD ?? Pretty simple decision...imo
re: Zion for Kon Knueppel straight up.
Posted by Dinky Mulberry on 11/22/25 at 12:12 pm to LSUPilot07
I think there are STILL people around here...that just don't understand HOW totally worthless...Zion's trade value is !!!
re: Pels vs the only team dumber than us
Posted by Dinky Mulberry on 11/21/25 at 9:10 pm to Delusional
I think four different Mavs blocked that ONE shot by Herb...
re: Pels vs the only team dumber than us
Posted by Dinky Mulberry on 11/21/25 at 8:52 pm to gotiger
We're doin' a whole bunch of passing tonight. Going into tonight's game...we were dead last in the league with 22.8 assists per game...& we have 17 assists...at halftime...good stuff...and great to see.
re: What would it take to get into the top 5 of this draft? Tear it down to the studs
Posted by Dinky Mulberry on 11/21/25 at 10:55 am to ScoopAndScore
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Trade Trey now!! If you can get anything close to that kind of haul, holy shite.
NO DOUBT !! Doubt Trey would get anywhere near that kinda return...but...whatever...put me down for a Hell Yeah !!!
re: What would it take to get into the top 5 of this draft? Tear it down to the studs
Posted by Dinky Mulberry on 11/21/25 at 10:33 am to ghost2most
Obviously...it's a piece of cake...
1. Trade Herb to Warriors for Kuminga and their 1st pick. (No need to make it "protected" since Warriors are going for the cheese this year)
2. Then...a week after the trade, Curry blows out his Achilles and is out at least the next 2 years so...he just goes ahead and announces his retirement. Warriors immediately go into total "tear it down & start over" mode...and trade EVERYBODY for future picks. Butler/Green/Herb/Podz...EVERYBODY !!! So...they finish somewhere in the bottom 10 with that bunch of scrubs they have left...and our beloved Pelicans end up...with a bit of "drawing luck"...with Kuminga AND a top 5 pick.
3. THAT'S my plan...and I'm stickin' to it !!!
Added edit*...btw...in my scenario...Herb is eventually SOMEHOW...traded to the Nuggets...and EVERYBODY goes home happy !!!
1. Trade Herb to Warriors for Kuminga and their 1st pick. (No need to make it "protected" since Warriors are going for the cheese this year)
2. Then...a week after the trade, Curry blows out his Achilles and is out at least the next 2 years so...he just goes ahead and announces his retirement. Warriors immediately go into total "tear it down & start over" mode...and trade EVERYBODY for future picks. Butler/Green/Herb/Podz...EVERYBODY !!! So...they finish somewhere in the bottom 10 with that bunch of scrubs they have left...and our beloved Pelicans end up...with a bit of "drawing luck"...with Kuminga AND a top 5 pick.
3. THAT'S my plan...and I'm stickin' to it !!!
Added edit*...btw...in my scenario...Herb is eventually SOMEHOW...traded to the Nuggets...and EVERYBODY goes home happy !!!
re: The real path forward
Posted by Dinky Mulberry on 11/19/25 at 9:48 am to brmark70816
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When talking about Herb's trade value...we're talking about ONLY a specific "type" of team that would be interested in picking up Herb...namely, a seriously contending team that thinks Herb would be the role player that could put them "over the top"...PLUS...especially if that particular team was facing a tight "window" to try & "win now".....like the Warriors are, since Curry doesn't have many years left.
We just watched the Warriors destroy us. Both Moody and Podz had great performances. The Warriors seem pretty committed to both. Do you think they would give up either of those for Jones? Or do you think that Jones would actually take minutes from either? The Warriors need size and front court depth.
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NOW...GS does NOT need or want Herb since they are in totally different situation...BUT...they can easily trade Herb to another contending team that is also looking for that type player
I'm looking at the "contending" teams, looking for a fit and a great package. I do not see it. None of them have matching pieces and most have limited draft capital.
For fun, the most loaded team would be the Thunder. Maybe if they had a serious injury, like Dort, and needed wing depth. They might be interested in Jones (but they would want Murphy more). But are they giving up Joe or Wiggins for him? I don't think they would. So how else would they match salary?
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Of course, that's just my opinion...I COULD...be wrong. But, I guess we'll find out around January 15th or so
I don't think we'll move Jones. The organization loves him and he doesn't make waves. I think he had good value a couple of years ago. But that does not exist anymore, especially after he got extended.
He's not a starting level player in the NBA. No serious "contender" would slot him that way. What I mean by that is that he couldn't start for any elite team in the NBA. I think he's a high level reserve at best..
OK...first off...any trade with GS...would almost surely involve Pels getting Kuminga and a 1st round pick...and GS would get Herb and a salary filler (probably Looney)...BTW...GS is not overly fond of PODZ, I'll be surprised if he's there much longer.
On OKC...they are so loaded they are one of the few teams that DON'T need a Herb-type player. So, forget them...BTW...They will not reup Dort...he's history very soon. It would be the right move...and they are notorius for making the right move.
Nuggets would have to jump through some hoops to go after Herb...but with, what I think is a top 5 player of all time...AND a "short window"...anything is possible especially if Braun (currently injured) doesn't work out the way they hope. They finally unloaded Porter, Jr and most assume what they got for him...Cam Johnson...will be gone fairly soon.
I won't go into other "contending" teams, since this is already getting too long...but rest assured...it would include the Lakers...Spurs...and one or two more. Always remember...if a contending team truly wants to go after a particular player...there is almost ALWAYS a way to make it happen.
re: The real path forward
Posted by Dinky Mulberry on 11/18/25 at 9:10 pm to brmark70816
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Jones wouldn't be in the top 5 of our best trade assets. Zion, Murphy, Missi, both rookies and our 2027 1st rounder are all worth more than him.
I'm gonna assume you're being serious...so I'll just try & get us on the same page....or at least, somewhere close to the same page. When talking about Herb's trade value...we're talking about ONLY a specific "type" of team that would be interested in picking up Herb...namely, a seriously contending team that thinks Herb would be the role player that could put them "over the top"...PLUS...especially if that particular team was facing a tight "window" to try & "win now".....like the Warriors are, since Curry doesn't have many years left.
So, Herb has MUCH more value AT THIS TIME...to GS...than he would have for the Pels or any other team that's NOT in that "contending window". Herb is almost a perfect fit for GS....since he's also fairly cheap...AND...what we like to call "totally liquid" for the next few years...meaning, let's say Curry blows out his Achilles a week after they trade for Herb. NOW...GS does NOT need or want Herb since they are in totally different situation...BUT...they can easily trade Herb to another contending team that is also looking for that type player.
So, bottom line...it's not that Herb is the BEST player of the 5 or so you mentioned...it's the fact that those contending teams need a Herb FAR more than they need those guys you listed.
Of course, that's just my opinion...I COULD...be wrong. But, I guess we'll find out around January 15th or so
re: PELS vs thundercun...
Posted by Dinky Mulberry on 11/17/25 at 9:04 pm to TigerReb7
Might be out of line asking this but...what's the word down that way...on where Kiffin will end up...LSU...Fla...or stay at OM?
re: PELS vs thundercun...
Posted by Dinky Mulberry on 11/17/25 at 8:42 pm to jamal
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Defending champs with a loaded squad and they are in line to get two top 10 picks as of today
Can’t make this shite up. Presti is a wizard.
They're so good...and deep...that they don't even want Dort back next year.
re: PELS vs thundercun...
Posted by Dinky Mulberry on 11/17/25 at 8:36 pm to Peytonknows
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OKC has a fricking squad
And about 38 draft picks...in the next 3 years
re: PELS vs thundercun...
Posted by Dinky Mulberry on 11/17/25 at 7:50 pm to Soggymoss
Gonna be a loooooooong...season.
re: PELS vs thundercun...
Posted by Dinky Mulberry on 11/17/25 at 7:42 pm to Balsamic_duck
Lesson so far? NOBODY comes into the King & hangs 50 on Pels in first quarter !!!
re: PELS vs thundercun...
Posted by Dinky Mulberry on 11/17/25 at 7:31 pm to Macintosh
"Garbage time"...has arrived early...in this one.
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