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re: In two years of starting, Dyson Daniels has more post season accolades

Posted by Dinky Mulberry on 5/23/26 at 10:01 am to Townedrunkard
Here's the bottom line...I luv BOTH players. DD has the higher "ceiling" but unless he improves his outside shot, he will never come close to that ceiling...and Herb will have more value than DD...to any seriously contending team. It's really VERY simple.

IMO...this is the reason that some very good team...will trade for Herb during this off-season...and why I doubt there will be any serious interest by those type teams...in trading for DD.

Of course, things could change over the next year or two...and DD could develope a decent outside shot...at which point those teams would be very interested in DD. But at this point...all things considered...I gotta go with Herb...if I had to pull the trigger to go after either one.
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re: Trade all your picks till 2040

Posted by Dinky Mulberry on 5/19/26 at 9:21 am to LSUPilot07
[quote]He’s incredible. The only thing that can stop that kid is injury. Guys his height have notoriously bad health luck especially with the knees but he’s also not carrying the weight a guy his height would normally be.[/quote

Biggest worry for a 7' or taller player in the NBA is that they tend to have severe problems with their feet. Usually a result of relatively large weight of a 7' player compared to a shorter player...AND the fact their feet are NOT, relatively speaking, larger than the average NBA player.

Bad combination which leads to major stress on their feet...over time...with the constant pounding of landing all that weight...on those relatively tiny...feet. You are definitely right on Wemby's low weight being helpful in maybe keeping him from injury problems...but it's his feet, not his knees..which the Spurs and all other teams worry about with a player in excess of 7'.
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re: Trade all your picks till 2040

Posted by Dinky Mulberry on 5/18/26 at 11:37 pm to Macintosh
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Harper is so good. Fox might be trade bait this summer.


Spurs just signed him for next 4 yrs/$229M...doubt they planned on moving him...any time soon. Can create his own shot off the dribble...very valuable trait.
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re: Trade all your picks till 2040

Posted by Dinky Mulberry on 5/18/26 at 11:14 pm to Macintosh
I thought Spurs chose to let Fox sit this one out...expecting to "let" OKC win this one...guess I was wrong.
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re: Denver doing a small blow up in offseason?

Posted by Dinky Mulberry on 5/1/26 at 3:58 pm to Macintosh
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Would rather take advantage of their desperation to build around Jokic. Make them overpay for Herb. Get picks


I think Nuggets will find a way to sign Peyton Watson...he is gonna be a VERY good "3 & D" player. Not sure Nuggets need Herb...especially if they keep Braun. Several other teams could use Herb...just don't think the Nuggets are one of them.
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re: Let’s check in on Dyson

Posted by Dinky Mulberry on 4/30/26 at 11:45 pm to ned nederlander
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Hawks were actually trying during regular season while so many teams were tanking...be very interesting to see how teams look next season...when NOBODY wants to tank to the point they could possibly finish in the bottom 3.


We were actually trying during regular season . . . and still tanked.


We have quite a few losers on our team...and very few winners. I just don't see an answer to our problems...other than a total rebuild
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re: Let’s check in on Dyson

Posted by Dinky Mulberry on 4/30/26 at 9:57 pm to Split2874
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DD needs to work on shots in and around the key. No reason he should not back down Brunson and score.

Atl is not as good as I thought they were, it appears to be the Knicks were not playing well.


Hawks were nowhere near as good as many thought. Hawks were actually trying during regular season while so many teams were tanking...be very interesting to see how teams look next season...when NOBODY wants to tank to the point they could possibly finish in the bottom 3.
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re: Let’s check in on Dyson

Posted by Dinky Mulberry on 4/29/26 at 12:02 pm to Split2874
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If I wanted to win now I would take Herb.
If I blew it up and started over I would take DD


Absolutely right...& why Herb's trade value is much higher to a contending team than DD's is. Two great defenders with totally different offensive games.

I luv DD...and blame the Hawks for totally wasting an entire season for DD. IF...he is ever to come around & be playable come playoff time... he must learn to shoot from outside & even more importantly, be willing to take the shot. No reason, given the Hawks current situation with a ceiling of maybe making the playoffs but then ousted in the 1st round, that they shouldn't FORCE DD to shoot the 3...at least 35-40% of his total shots taken.

DD shot the three 15.1% of his shots. Herb was 54.2%...I don't really care how poorly DD shot the three...he just MUST be willing to take the shot...when it's there.

The LAST thing DD wants to do...is shoot the three. The FIRST thing Herb wants to do...is shoot the three. This must change...for DD. It's pretty simple.
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re: Let’s check in on Dyson

Posted by Dinky Mulberry on 4/23/26 at 10:23 pm to spaghettioeauxs
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Dyson is on a 4 year $100M contract. Why are yall acting like they are paying him some mega exorbitant contract. I think the Hawks would give Dyson that same deal again tomorrow lol.


Probably as big a DD fan as there is on here...but I doubt the Hawks ever dreamed that he would shoot 18.8% from 3 for the year...and basically get to the point that he wouldn't even shoot them.. And...that they would decide that they didn't want him on the court in the 4th quarter during the playoffs.

But I could be wrong...and maybe the Hawks would luv to spend $100M over the next 4 years on DD...if they had it to do over again.

I STILL haven't given up on DD...but I gotta admit I wouldn't want to jump out there and spend $100M over the next 4 years...to sign this kind of player. But...you never know...maybe there are several teams that would have no problem doing that...after watching him play this season.
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re: Let’s check in on Dyson

Posted by Dinky Mulberry on 4/20/26 at 10:18 pm to jmcwhrter
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He is a black hole on offense.. the moment he touches the ball he's looking to send it elsewhere

One or two times the clock forced him to shoot and he put up those goofy hip shot floaters that clanged of the rim and created a break the other way

Defense was solid but so was pretty everyone else's in a playoff game


Hard not to feel sorry for DD. The guy plays HARD all season long...but then, come playoffs, the other team really concentrates on his offensive weaknesses...plus all the other players raise their overall defensive intensity which kinda negates the one major advantage that DD had over other players during the regular season.

Playoffs are just a different game. If they find a weak spot...they will just HAMMER IT... all night long. I was afraid they were gonna have to bench DD down the stretch...and they did. Really hate it for him.
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re: Let’s check in on Dyson

Posted by Dinky Mulberry on 4/20/26 at 10:22 am to Townedrunkard
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he will have VERY little value as a PG, which is what his offensive numbers say he is


Damn, so there’s very little value in being the nba steals leader and probably the top rebounding guard in the nba? On top of that, he was voted the best defensive wing in the league last year.

Remember this was also his first year basically taking over the major play making role on the team like you said, his turnover percentage dropped significantly as the year went on as he grew into that role.


Apparently, I have not made myself clear. DD is a fantastic defensive player ...as is Herb. I luv both players. But, I doubt any top 6-8 teams in the NBA (what I call serious playoff contenders) would want either one...in a "major play making role" on the offensive end of the court. Herb...because he would suck at it...and DD...because he CAN'T and even more importantly WON'T... shoot the 3-pt shot. These teams already have offensive players for the "play making role" who are far better than Herb or DD at doing that job.

If these top 6-8 teams are looking for anything...it's probably a glue guy who is a 3&D player who doesn't require or ask...for the ball. They already have more than enough stud players to fill the play making role.The Lakers are an exception...as they want a 3&D guy AND a solid defensive center who is a rim protector.

The question is...can either Herb or DD become a consistent 35-36% C&S 3-pt shooter? I think Herb can & will under the right circumstances and I doubt DD...ever will. So, despite DD's advantage over Herb in the play making role...I don't think this "advantage" would be of any use to a contending team...as they are not going to use DD in that capacity.
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re: Let’s check in on Dyson

Posted by Dinky Mulberry on 4/19/26 at 10:36 pm to Doctor B
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Hawks probably wish they hadn't moved so quickly on DD with that 4 yr #100M deal.

Is $25M a year really an overpay in 2026 salaries for a guy in his early 20s who you know is not going to lose his ability as a defender, rebounder between age 23-27?


JMO...and I luv DD...but there is NO way they are happy with 4 yr/$100M deal they gave DD...after the season he has had. His 3-pt game may come around but unless it does...he will have VERY little value as a PG, which is what his offensive numbers say he is...at least not... for ANY seriously contending team. I'm pullin' for him...
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re: Let’s check in on Dyson

Posted by Dinky Mulberry on 4/19/26 at 9:06 pm to whatiknowsofar
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You made an ecf with that and lost to the eventual nba champions. That is further than you will ever make it with dyson as your pg


I've got Herb over DD...but you can't write DD off just yet. Hawks probably wish they hadn't moved so quickly on DD with that 4 yr #100M deal. Just bad timing for sure...plus I assume they have pretty much given up on their #1 pick Risacher. DD just MUST start shooting the open 3s...or risk becoming another poor contract. We'll see.
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re: An NBA insider says Dumars& Weaver wants to get back in the First Round of draft

Posted by Dinky Mulberry on 4/19/26 at 10:34 am to Mad Scientist26
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Yall might fight me for this but I think Bey has taken Herb’s starting spot in Dumar’s eyes. I’m not saying that I agree with it but it sounds like it’s going to be Murray, Trey, Bey, Zion, and another C (I’m not sure who) starting next year.


Herb's trade value will NEVER be as high as it will be on this upcoming draft night. I'd expect to get 2 FRPs from a serious contender...probably both in the 18-25 range...or...a FRP and a solid YOUNG player. Is this enough for the Pels to move Herb? You tell me.

Herb is just not a good fit as far as "added value"...for this current rendition of the Pelicans. If we place a value of "X" on Herb while playing for the Pelicans, I can assure you a serious contender (and I hate to say it...but... some team like the Lakers) would value him at "3X" given their current situation of probably having plenty of offense but desperately needing that 3&D glue guy.

Herb's future salary of $13.9M next year, followed by $20.8, $22.5 and $24.1 makes this off-season the perfect time to move Herb, assuming you want to move him...at any time during the next few years.
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re: Let’s check in on Dyson

Posted by Dinky Mulberry on 4/18/26 at 7:16 pm to Demps
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3rd QTR

23 minutes 4 pts


DD is contributing in other areas besides points but...

Knicks are letting KAT guard him (by just standing in the lane) & this is more of a problem for Hawks than the lack of points.
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re: An NBA insider says Dumars& Weaver wants to get back in the First Round of draft

Posted by Dinky Mulberry on 4/17/26 at 8:45 pm to RUFshreve
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Now we're gonna do something stupid like trade Herb for a mid first. Watch.


I'm guessing we'd have to get 2 FRPs for Herb...of course, I COULD...be wrong.
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re: Which former Pels player are you rooting for in postseason?

Posted by Dinky Mulberry on 4/13/26 at 9:17 am to bluebarracuda
Dyson Daniels...plays hard on both ends of the court.
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re: Dyson vs Herb season long thread

Posted by Dinky Mulberry on 4/11/26 at 10:22 am to whatiknowsofar
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Dyson has really turned it on the back half of the season. Trading for cj really helped.


DD is shooting better from outside in past few games. FTs still a problem.

Biggest problem is that DD just will NOT shoot enough from outside (3s)...he MUST just bite the bullet and start shooting 3s...no matter what his 3-pt% is...he can NOT be taken seriously by a contending team in the NBA until he adjusts his game to today's NBA. This is the major reason there are several serious contenders that are very interested in trading for Herb Jones...but those same teams have a huge problem in finding a way to use DD...especially at $25M/yr for the next 4 years. Pretty simple...just up to DD to show he can make the leap. I'm still optimistic on DD.
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re: Starting lineup tonight

Posted by Dinky Mulberry on 4/7/26 at 7:05 pm to Delusional
Imagine paying actual money...to go watch these 2 teams play tonight.
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re: Anyone find is completely hilarious Hawks have won 19 of last 22

Posted by Dinky Mulberry on 4/5/26 at 2:08 pm to iykyk985
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They have no choice, they have to bite the bullet and unload # 1, and either # 25 or # 2 (not withstanding tossing out # 3. # 24 and # 55) to have any chance of being competitive within the next three years. Good Luck on that!!!


# 2 will give the Pels the best "bang for the buck". He's not that valuable to the Pels but might possibly be worth 2 FRPs from a "contender in need"...like the Lakers, for instance. JMO...I COULD...be wrong
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re: Would you give up a 1st 5 years down the road if it meant unloading Poole?

Posted by Dinky Mulberry on 3/31/26 at 9:23 am to TeddyPadillac
Before giving up a future 1st...I'd definitely figure out what a "buy out" would cost for his final season. Poole probably thinks he can still play in the NBA...and maybe there's another team out there... as dumb as the Pelicans ...who would take a chance with him....at a supposedly "bargain" price.
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