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Dantheman504
| Favorite team: | New Orleans Pelicans |
| Location: | N/A |
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| Interests: | Classified |
| Occupation: | Winner |
| Number of Posts: | 5737 |
| Registered on: | 6/29/2013 |
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re: Zion with the heady play to not leave the bench during the fight last night.
Posted by Dantheman504 on 11/13/25 at 2:17 pm to Tiger1242
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True leadership from one of the smartest team first dudes in the league
You are right man, we should have gotten Ja. He would have just came off the bench and shot the guy. True leader.
re: DQ is pretty good yall
Posted by Dantheman504 on 11/13/25 at 11:48 am to J_Hingle
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Queen is good, but a good deal at the wrong price is still a bad deal.
In reality we have been an unsuccessful franchise for the past 20+ years. Our whole existence has been a "bad deal" at this point and the only way to move on from that is to build with new players.
A "bad deal" is just another year for the Pelicans franchise while "good young players with potential" are something that can actually save us or turn the corner.
Dumars made that trade knowing that the FO wanted him to trade Z and he wanted to give it a chance first. He took the risk because he got Z's replacement and can get back more than what we lost for it. All that needed to work out is Fears/ Queen being hits and not misses. And its looking pretty solid right now.
Trade: Z/ Poole/ Herb/ Looney/ Missi/ Jose/ Hawk
You are looking at minimum of 5-6 1sts and 4 2nds of value along with like $110mil to take back.
re: Dane Brugler’s Top 50 Draft Prospects
Posted by Dantheman504 on 11/12/25 at 9:57 am to WicKed WayZ
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Outside of that, in order…
1. OLB/Edge
2. WR
3. Guard
4. DL
5. ILB (Stutsman is unproven, Werner isn’t the future and Demario is getting older.)
I'd add
4. TE
7. CB
I'd prefer to spend the money on someone like Alija Vera-Tucker at OG instead of draft. Our early rd picks need to be Edge, WR, DL, TE. Draft CB/ LB and maybe trade for one of the 2.
If Demario stays another year then we can hold off on LB until next draft honestly. At that point you hope that LB will be the biggest hole.
re: Anyone stupid enough to waste their time and money going to a Pels game
Posted by Dantheman504 on 11/11/25 at 1:22 pm to Silverfoxx
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I legit get pissed off seeing dumb suckers at the game man. STAY YOUR DUMBASS AT HOME.
Do you even Courtside Club bro?
re: Pelicans are using Thanksgiving week standings as evaluation for future of Willie
Posted by Dantheman504 on 11/11/25 at 10:17 am to ned nederlander
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our standard healthy lineup
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Zion
Yes understood. Now imagine constantly trashing our best players for not being good enough but actually being retarded enough to think that the 10th best player/ end of the bench on a team of under achieving players will ever make any difference or matter in the big picture.
"Zion isn't good enough"
"Poole is Eric Gordon"
"Trade Murray he doesn't have a leg"
"We wasted assets on Queen"
But but there's a solution! We know how to get to the promised land of success! Just build the team around Jose Alvarado and 6th man Herb Jones!
A guy that doesn't touch the floor on a contending team and a guy who is best off the bench on a contending team that's where we draw the line! That's what we will defend with our life!
Fears/ Queen/ Trey/ Murray/ Bey/ Karlo are the only players that should be untouchable at the deadline if we are a serious franchise. Big if.
re: CJ looks cooked and BI is still BI - Dyson hurts though
Posted by Dantheman504 on 11/11/25 at 9:58 am to Geauxldilocks
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He wasn’t taking that deal here, he wanted to GTFO and we got nothing in return (both players are gone).
Actually we chose Trey for 25mil and Herb for 23mil instead of BI for 45mil. And we got Poole/ Bey. Poole and CJ would get close the same in a trade so that's a wash.
If we can extend Bey and keep him for another 4-5 years then we essentially traded BI's salary to secure Trey/ Herb/ Bey for several years.
re: CJ looks cooked and BI is still BI - Dyson hurts though
Posted by Dantheman504 on 11/11/25 at 9:39 am to SEC Doctor
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Genius Dumars took on an extra year of Poole
If CJ walked at the end of the year then we lose 30mil because we are already over the salary cap. Having Poole means that we can take in an extra 30mil in a trade. Not to mention his value will still be higher than CJ's even if its 2nds.
re: Pelicans are using Thanksgiving week standings as evaluation for future of Willie
Posted by Dantheman504 on 11/10/25 at 4:28 pm to Chalkywhite84
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I remember before the season people on here were already penciling him out of the lineup.
He has the 9th most minutes on a team that plays a 10 man rotation with a 32min player out indefinitely and another 30min player that's missed enough games to give him his current minutes that are 9th. He should not be in our standard healthy lineup.
We really have our core (9) players
Murray/ Fears
Poole/ Herb
Trey/ Bey
Zion
Queen/ Missi
Then you have:
(2) playable expendables
Jose/ Looney
(2) Experiments
Peavy
Karlo
(2) Just there to be there
Jordan
Hawk
re: What’s our current record with Shough starting day one?
Posted by Dantheman504 on 11/10/25 at 12:36 pm to uptowntiger84
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I'd much rather have a top 3 pick than 6th.
We can really frick up the draft pick with wins vs the 3 win Falcons and Dolphins. Its hard to hope that we lose but also that Shough balls out while doing it.
Saint play: Jets/ Dolphins/ Titans
Browns play: Titans/ Raiders
Jets play: Dolphins/ Saints
Raiders play: Browns/ Giants
re: What's the theoretical maximum FG distance?
Posted by Dantheman504 on 11/10/25 at 12:03 pm to Gifman
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Aubrey with the cowboys could probably kick 75
Aubrey and Little from the Jags can both go 75.
re: Is there a way that Zion and Queen can co-exist?
Posted by Dantheman504 on 11/10/25 at 11:27 am to Macintosh
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Hard to take you seriously if you think we would get Kuminga AND a 1st for just giving up Herb.
Kuminga and GSW could not agree to a long term deal. He signed a 2 year deal and they have been openly looking to move him. Its not crazy if they like Herb that much and don't see eye to eye with Kuminga. It would be at worst Kuminga/ Herb straight up.
They signed him so he wouldn't walk for nothing and so they could make other moves in trades if needed.
I have no clue how that value plays out whether its Kuminga + 1st for Herb or Herb + 1st for Kuminga.
re: Is there a way that Zion and Queen can co-exist?
Posted by Dantheman504 on 11/10/25 at 9:49 am to LSU4ever2002
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Only way they can play together is with a legit stretch 5. Not sure if you can also play Herb with both of them in lineup
Trade Herb for Kuminga and a 1st.
Trade: Zion/ Herb/ Poole/ Jose/ Hawk
Build on: Fears/ Trey/ Queen
Extend: Bey/ Karlo
Rehab value and trade in the future: Murray/ Missi
re: Pelicans are using Thanksgiving week standings as evaluation for future of Willie
Posted by Dantheman504 on 11/10/25 at 9:25 am to Soggymoss
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Something like Tari Eason for Jose
Would be awesome but I doubt it. I'd expect it to be more like ORL for 2-3 2nds type trade. Would love to get Anthony Black somehow.
re: Zion time to move on from him.
Posted by Dantheman504 on 11/8/25 at 12:49 pm to brmark70816
Nets: Zion/ Hawk
GSW: Jose/ Herb
Pels: Claxton/ Kuminga
26' BKN/ 31' NYK /32' DEN/ 32' BKN/ 32' GSW/ 29' GSW swap
GSW: Jose/ Herb
Pels: Claxton/ Kuminga
26' BKN/ 31' NYK /32' DEN/ 32' BKN/ 32' GSW/ 29' GSW swap
re: Is there a way that Zion and Queen can co-exist?
Posted by Dantheman504 on 11/8/25 at 11:28 am to brmark70816
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Itd be better if either would shoot 3s
I think Queen can and will. He just needs to develop more and we need to implement schemes for him on offense.
re: Zion time to move on from him.
Posted by Dantheman504 on 11/7/25 at 7:21 pm to NannerB_EazyPellyBoi
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Zion trade thought of the day.
CHA: Zion/ Jose/ Hawk/ Claxton
Nets: G Williams/ C Sexton/ 27' MIA 1st
GSW: Josh Green/ Looney/ 27' DAL 1st
Pels: K Knueppel/ P Connaughton/ Kalkbrenner/ Kuminga/ 26' CHA
re: Queen is trash
Posted by Dantheman504 on 11/6/25 at 5:29 pm to Geauxldilocks
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Find me one respected NBA media type that praised Dumars and the trade.
Find me one that wants us to succeed and wants Zion to stay here.
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Gayle is still a horrendous owner.
We get it.
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which really looks worse?
Thank you for this demonstration.
re: What happens when Dejounte Murray is healthy?
Posted by Dantheman504 on 11/6/25 at 2:29 pm to ShamelessPel
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I’d extend neither. I don’t think either fit the team needs for their price tag and role. Jordan Poole has been a big bummer.
Idk I'd keep Murray and Fears together. That's a nasty duo to run the team and for a very good cost. If Murray looks good/ healthy back from injury and wants to be here then we can extend him for a slight discount since he's coming off a big injury. Murray is still arguably the best player on our team from an overall impact.
I'd trade Zion and Poole. Maybe decide on (1) of Herb/ Trey depending on roster construction after Z/ Poole trades and what we can get for either.
Keep Murray, extend Bey, build with Trey/ Fears/ Queen.
Trade Zion, Poole, Herb, Looney,
re: What happens when Dejounte Murray is healthy?
Posted by Dantheman504 on 11/6/25 at 10:38 am to LSUPilot07
Both of Poole/ Murray will be up for extension's soon. We will most likely need to pick 1 or trade both. I'd rather keep Murray and trade Poole. If we trade Z then we possibly trade both. You have to keep Murray until atleast next years mid season trade deadline to recoup value. DJ comes off the bench this year unless he looks that much better than Fears/ Poole. He should be that much better while healthy so we will see. But 20min off the bench this season until later in the year.
re: Queen is trash
Posted by Dantheman504 on 11/6/25 at 10:31 am to spaghettioeauxs
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Now we just have to develop and build around them and trade Zion for future 1sts or a good young assets.
Trade Z and end up with Kon + 26' and I don't even care about what else if anything.
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