Dantheman504

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we dump Poole and perhaps Murray becomes our closer, we are not a terrible team ... not really good, but not terrible.

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We need to take Poole/ Herb and turn them into a stud SG/ C.

Obviously Jaylen Brown would be awesome and slightly realistic but people would freak for what we'd spend.

KAT would be an interesting option.

We can take back up to $61mil in a trade with Poole/ Herb. So anyone in the NBA.

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Your season ticket reps sales pitch
"Zion stayed healthy"
"Trey is still Trey"
"DJM is the guard we needed"
"Fears and Queen year 2"
"Yves year 3"
"And did we mention how well Bey played?"

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This sounds about right. You even left off Poole/ Herb/ Hawk to give us that extra $60mil to work with. All we have to do is add Jaylen Brown and we are good. Cake walk.

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He was supposed to come back last week. We have reached Eric Gordon status with Murray .

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Can you give me an example of any team rushing back one of their best players from a season ending injury for a team who is bottom 5 in league?

If he has even the slightest discomfort or the coaches see something they don't like he's out.

Part of the reason y'all are butthurt is because of a certain rant in which this is included:

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he felt unsupported, stating it was difficult to get necessary training, lifting, and court time.

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Ok, so guess what we are doing? Giving him the necessary training, lifting, and court time.

Here's a few other snippets that really make him look like such a bad player, leader, and locker room guy:

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He described a chaotic environment with, "such & such got fired, another guy left... I'm not getting what I need from the organization"

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Murray told media that if players weren't "embarrassed and really mad," there was a problem. He emphasized a lack of competition, physicality, and a need for a different, more serious approach.

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But lets openly hate the guy for saying that our players are pussies and FO is a mess while we bash our players for being pussies and bash our FO for being a mess. And then lets bash the team for actually trying to give him the time and improve morale.

This exact type of shite is what leads to players disliking the team. He was on the Spurs and one of their leaders. Y'all are retarded if you think rooting against him brings anything positive to this organization.

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I keep seeing this and it’s fricking retarded

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1. Can McCoy be trusted as your future franchise C? No
2. Can McCoy be an upgrade > Radunz/ Ruiz at OG? Yes
3. Can aquiring Linderbaum give us the starting franchise center? Yes
4. Can we trade McCoy? Yes that is also a possible scenario but we will have dead cap.
5. If you have to make upgrades in spite of McCoy then is it a terrible plan? Not really, we get our franchise C and still get help at Guard.

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Not to mention he can’t stay healthy at center and that position usually doesn’t get beat up as much as guards.

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The point is that its a lose lose as you have clearly stated. So why not try to make the best out of it?

Getting Linderbaum and trading McCoy makes the most sense but we just had a whole conversation about the availability of OG's and yet finding a way to upgrade internally is retarded apparently.

We need a C and 2 OG's. This is the best way to kill 2 birds with 1 stone.

We can't spend +$20mil on 3 OL this offseason. To maximize the upgrades you want to make you'd need to trade both Ruiz/ McCoy and have dead cap from them. That's fricking dumb when you can just move McCoy and possibly end up with a better result.

No one is actually worried about McCoy's impact at OG. They would be worried about injuries, which is retarded because if he's at center then wtf does that matter? We have the exact same issue.

There's 5-10 very good/ great upgrades and another 5-10 serviceable upgrades available.

You also have atleast 5 high value OT's that will get paid.

Then you have 2 of the best centers in the league that will be top paid OL in McGovern/ Linderbaum.

You also have teams that have 4+ OL fleeing from them (Browns).

If you take out the teams that are a dumpster fires + the few teams who don't need/ can't spend money on OL you are closer to 20 teams with about 15 high priced OL. And another 10+ mid priced OL that would still be upgrades.

If Fano/ Mauigoa are good enough for us to consider taking them at #8 then ARI, NYG, and CLE will make sure they're gone. I feel like ARI/ CLE are a lock for those 2 guys. Only way CLE doesn't do it is because NYG already took the 2nd guy.

The whole point of targeting high level FA OG this offseason is because we've spent so many high value picks on OL and have mixed results. That doesn't sound like we go OL for the first few rds.

We have 4 defensive starters that could announce retirement at any second and 1 who is a free agent.

The first 3 rounds are going to be defense, defense, WR in no particular order.

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I would assume the comment was related to his public interview trashing the organization.

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There's maybe a handful of players that haven't trashed our organization publicly. Considering past mistakes and the current status of the team its probably never been more warranted.

Most the people shitting on him or calling him a cancer have shared his exact same opinion of the team as a whole and yet he tells the truth and is a bad guy? Fans are just scrambling to find someone to be mad at.

Zion is still on the roster and nothings changed for 20 years? Lets blame Murray!!

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30 years ago the religious folks would have told you that there is no way aliens exist because it doesn’t say it in the bible.
Now that it is a realistic possibility, God created them too. Yada Yada.

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Was the Axolotl mentioned in the Bible or is their existence in question as well?
The toughest part of Christianity is man selling it out.

In the past you had to pay money to be absolved from sin. Now its okay to be gay.

Christianity has bridged from following the word of God to following whatever man made interpretation that has the power. Its sad.

Anyway, there's probably a better chance aliens exist than some of these priest, popes, deacons, and bishops getting into heaven.

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The chiefs aren’t a running back away and they are selecting in the top 10 for a reason. Their star players such as Kelce and Jones are near the end of their careers and the solution you think is for them to draft a rb? They need to hit on a lot of picks to remain relevant.

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KC still want to compete. The Mahomes injury last year along with a weak running game was worrisome. Love can take a burden off Mahomes and give extra security for any smaller injuries. And for this example you are talking about jumping 1 spot for a 3rd/ 4th, they'd do it.

He started 2 games(I accidentally said 3 earlier).

Estime: 35 carries/ 157 yards/ 4.48 ypc
AK: 131 carries/ 471 yards/ 3.59 ypc

Estime had the worst OL in the last 5 years and had 2 of the best RB performances in the last 5 years in those 2 starts.

His sample size is 2 games more than Love and on paper almost comparable stats for their last year in college..

Love broke a single game rushing record against USC and broke a TD record with 1TD every single game but Estime had the exact same amount of rushing TDs. Love had 11 less carries and 30 more yards. If he had that many big runs and only had 31 more yards than Estime what are we dealing with here? How good can Estime be?

If one guy is good enough to be a sure thing top 10 pick then we would be dumb for not giving Estime a legit shot, especially for the cost.

Estime at RB1 with AK/ Miller backup is not that bad. Not spending #8 or $10mil on a RB makes it even more enticing.

I truly think this will be part of the conversation when discussing to take Love at #8.

I mean guys look at the stats. They can't really be any more comparable.

I get it, eye test and abilities. But if we are talking value, need, impact, etccc. How far apart are they really? Far enough to spend a #8 pick on 1 and pass on a top talent WHILE Estime is on the roster?

We just talked about how we haven't had shite at RB for years and then the dude directly comparable to Love stat wise tears it the frick up with the worst OL we've had in that same several year time frame and y'all don't want to give him a chance?

Y'all are saying it like the dude has been a bust. He came in and immediately hit the ground running. His first 3 games paced Judkins first 3 games last year.

I'm not saying Estime is better or even as good as Love but the drop off may be way closer than perceived and its another reason to think twice about the value and needs.