Dantheman504

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We aren't going to draft our biggest need that we didn't address in FA in any capacity?

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Our biggest need after all the other biggest needs that we did address? Doesn't seem like that big of a need and WR rd 2 makes 100% since for the value vs the top guys compared to the value vs just about ANY defensive player. Its a no brainer.

Anyone who wants a WR in Rd 1 really doesn't think the Saints view Olave as a WR1. That's their own assbackwards opinion and sentiment. The reality is that Olave is our WR1, Vele is fine as a WR2, and a 2nd Rd WR could still end up a WR1-WR3.

People think WR is a much bigger need than it is. Its actually more of a want than a need.

We have (3) WR that the Saints want here and definitely plan to use: Olave/ Vele/ Polk.
Then you have (3) WR's that could pop off: Alford/ Austin JR/ DRAFT.

If you take away Olave (who would have had a record season with 17 games of Shough) you now have 4 other WRs who should be better than anything else we had behind Olave/ Vele. If we are being realistic then technically Alford/ Polk/ DRAFT could all end up better than Vele based on raw potential.

Drafting either of Love/ WR at #8 was always a luxury and not a priority or need. We aren't in a position for luxuries.

Y'all argued with me months ago about WR being a big need and how we would go after one.. Well we didn't, it doesn't look like a big need, and it looks like we will roll with the WR's that we went out of our way to acquire. Would you just look at that.

Why would we take the #8 pick and then trade more assets to move up when our pick next year could be #20? We shouldn't touch our 1st, 2nd, or 3rd this year. Use next years 1st, 2nd, 3rd to acquire a David Bailey type player who is already a proven NFL talent and then draft BPA at #8.

All this trade up talk for unproven talent. Use those assets on a proven NFL player if y'all want to give them up so bad.

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If you don't think those guys will be there in the 2nd then obviously trading back to get two 2nds isnt good value.

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Mccoy has been projected closer to #11 than #43 so that kinda blows the whole thing up. I don't hate the picks its just a little unrealistic and the 3rds/ 4ths traded don't make sense.

If we make a deal with MIA then give them our 2nd next year and both #132/#136 for #90/#94/ Brooks or #73/ Brooks.

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Trade with Miami
Saints give up 1st, 3rd, both 4ths, and a 5th
Miami give up 1st, 2nd, last 3rd (#90), and 4th

1. Rueben Bain (Tate and Downs still there)
2. Jermod McCoy (CB)
3. Chris Bell (WR)
4. Connor Lew (IOL)
5. Dontay Corleone (DT)

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This looks confusing as frick. Should have put the actual Rds/ picks instead of 1-5. And #90 isn't the Dolphins last 3rd.

11. Bain (may not happen)
43. McCoy (definitely not going to happen)
42. Bell
94. Connor Lew (still might not be there)
130. Corleone (might not happen)

(#8 + #73) for (#11 + #42 + #94) is already close to fair.
Why the hell would we then give them pick #132 + #136 + #150 for #130 and let the dolphins keep their best 3 3rds? The only way that wouldn't suck is if we also get #90 and 3/4ths of the picks that make this look enticing aren't going to fall.

Agreed that CB is the biggest individual need while DL has the most holes as a group.

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they seem to really like Simpkins and Radunz proved to be a good asset… I wouldn’t hate trying to find a future replacement for McCoy though.

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Simpkins looked solid enough for the backup C opportunity and is only 23 y/o. He very well could be part of that future replacement plan. We would have been ok with Fortner starting and he was not great up until last year at 27 y/o.

Radunz is here as a worst case scenario. Saldiveri is our big mover at both OG/ OT for the current roster.

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At DT we have some decent options with Godchaux,Shepherd, Breese and Ridgeway.

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We use (2) DTs and a NT so that's 3 positions. 2/4 guys you listed could retire tomorrow if they wanted.

DT: Bryan Bresee
NT: Godchaux/ Ridgeway/ Boyd
DT: Shepherd/ Rumph

DE/ DT: Broughton/ Diggs

DL is definitely the weakest. Diggs/ Broughton could end up at DE and maybe DT. Considering how underwhelming Bresee has been + contract year we may need 3 starters on the DL after next year.

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What black is going to win the Swedish American grant?

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Edit: I misread the scholarship/ grant name.

We can't keep advertising things as "equal rights" when they clearly discriminate against other races and contradict the foundation of the phrase. That's not specific to any race or situation.

If its private and nothing contradicts how the scholarships are given out then Idk where this goes. It will probably depend on the applications and how they are processed.

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I don't care about his "short arms"

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We shouldn't care about his short arms if he's best available. The reality is that he shouldn't be BPA with atleast (1) of Bailey/ Styles/ Downs/ Delane available.

The absolute worst case scenario is Bain/ Tate as our best available and I think that's the only situation where we seriously may trade back.

This also means that both of the Cardinals/ Browns either trade their picks or draft defense instead of OL/ WR/ RB. Very unlikely scenario. Even if the Cardinals don't take the top OL someone will before us.

This draft will depend on Cardinals/ Giants/ Browns.

Giants apparently like every top 10 player in the draft and are interested in trading back. ARI/ CLE could easily set up the most likely scenario's with both going OL.

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Yea its not a REAL 5 year deal but still makes you think if they put off taking the QB at 1. Maybe they aren't sold on him. It would mix things up for who is on board at 8 for sure

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Not really. They would probably take Reese and Mendoza goes #2 to the Jets. Nothing changes.