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Dantheman504
Favorite team: | New Orleans Pelicans ![]() |
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Number of Posts: | 5024 |
Registered on: | 6/29/2013 |
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re: SirWinstons Mock Draft 1.0
Posted by Dantheman504 on 6/12/25 at 3:29 pm
1 thing seems clear and its that no matter what we do this board is going to melt and hate it. We already have to deal with being miserable during the actual season, can we not have a little joy and fun talking about the prospects?
It seems some people hate all 7 of the people we could possibly draft and then are upset at the possibility of trading the pick. Is there ANY happy scenario?
It seems some people hate all 7 of the people we could possibly draft and then are upset at the possibility of trading the pick. Is there ANY happy scenario?
re: Bring Booogey back to NOLA?
Posted by Dantheman504 on 6/12/25 at 1:44 pm
What is everyone's problem? Whatever Cousins did then and whatever Zion does now have nothing to do with adding a 34 y/o Cousins to this team at all. And I also said I'd be cool with adding him. Not sure why y'all are being so hostile.
What the frick are you talking about? My last few posts were trade threads in which 1 is on the top of the page right now. You can call me alot of things but "worst poster on this board" is actually retarded.
There I changed it since it hurt so many feelings.
quote:
Amazing how quickly this idiot has become the worst poster on this board.
What the frick are you talking about? My last few posts were trade threads in which 1 is on the top of the page right now. You can call me alot of things but "worst poster on this board" is actually retarded.
There I changed it since it hurt so many feelings.
re: Bring Booogey back to NOLA?
Posted by Dantheman504 on 6/12/25 at 1:17 pm
quote:
When has Zion been healthy?
What does that have to do with someone that hasn't played here in 10 years after having an achilles injury and who plays a different position?
re: Bring Booogey back to NOLA?
Posted by Dantheman504 on 6/12/25 at 10:50 am
quote:
As for Zion , What has he done for you lately?
What does this have to do with your comment? Saying Cousins did more for us 10 years than Zion now means absolutely nothing. Are you saying Cousins will have more impact/ stats on this team right now than a healthy Zion?
Yeah I have no issue with EP and Cousins being our 14th and 15th roster spot, still has nothing to do with your comment that connects Cousins impact 10 years ago before an achilles tear compared to now.
re: Bring Booogey back to NOLA?
Posted by Dantheman504 on 6/12/25 at 9:02 am
quote:
He probably has done more than Zion when he was here.
The last time he played for us was 8/9 years ago and this comment (has nothing to do with signing him or not).
But I'd love to get him on a min contract.
re: Trade Target# 1
Posted by Dantheman504 on 6/11/25 at 9:15 am
quote:
Herb & #7
for
#3 & Oubre
I'm not doing it. In my mind, this is a 2 player draft
This trade above is the actual trade in the article I read. I think its not unrealistic if the they add the 28' LAC pick.
Herb/ #7
For
#3/ 28' LAC/ Oubre
What about
Herb/ 26' Pels/ 29' Pels
For
#3
Get #3 and keep #7. Could get Bailey + Maluach.
I also like the possibility of getting #2 from SAS. If they want Giannis and offer 2-3 picks + #2 then we may be able to give MIL their 26'/ 27' and other picks for #2.
If we trade Herb we either need to get a star back or acquire #2/ #3 without giving up #7. We can definitely get it done.
Our actual asset chest is
Herb/ Olynyk/ Jose
#7
26' MIL (swap)
27' MIL
(3) future 1st
(2) future swaps
We should realistically be looking at anyway possible to get #2/#3 or a Sengun type player.
re: 75-80% of all divorces are initiated by women.
Posted by Dantheman504 on 6/10/25 at 2:41 pm
quote:
y'all are a jaded bunch.
How old are you? When is the last time you've been in the dating world?
Women with power currently have priorities of:
1. Validation
2. Entertainment
3. Love
4. Loyalty
Its all about keeping them happy, validated, and not letting them get bored
That's not sustainable if men continue to prioritize mainly love and loyalty as a whole.
If you are older think about how much the open relationship/ swinger group has expanded in the last 10-20 years. And its not primarily threesomes with women, its just wives/ gf getting railed by other people.
The women get their validation and entertainment while the men are allowed to have a twisted sense of "love". And because the women stay with that partner the men also get a twisted sense of "loyalty".
There's women that think men are audacious or pussies for wanting a relationship where they can't frick multiple dudes. Meanwhile if a guy goes to a girl and does that then they are a disgusting pig. If you think there aren't 10x more lose/ lose situations for guys now then you are blind.
Not letting other dudes frick your wife is now considered an insecurity. You realize how insanely twisted this shite is?
re: 75-80% of all divorces are initiated by women.
Posted by Dantheman504 on 6/10/25 at 1:49 pm
quote:
I think an additional factor is that women are more “economically viable” on their own and less likely to stay in a crap marriage than a couple generations before.
Which is really the main issue today. In past generations men were the only group that was primarily "economically viable" on their own and yet they chose families or to stay in their crappy marriage.
There's a big point in all this that people are avoiding. Men primarily had the control and decision making power in the past and a majority chose to stay and support their family even through the bullshite. Women do NOT have the same accountability and loyalty in modern society now that they have equal power.
I agree that everyone should be allowed to better themselves and improve their life if given options. BUT at some level there is a decision of loyalty vs upgrades. If all women are constantly looking for upgrades then loyalty gets thrown away.
Throughout history women/ relationships/ family help men better themselves as a whole.
You can have a man who has struggled in the past, is immature, finds a good partner, matures and becomes a good father. That's how men better themselves.
That same man gets divorced by his wife so that she can upgrade to someone making more money. What do you do? The guy started at rock bottom and did everything right and that's not good enough.
The reality is that loyalty and hard work is no longer always good enough for women. That's a huge problem.
You have a whole society of women that will say shite like "he's loyal, he works hard, and he's a good person, BUT...."
So yes while men as a whole need to do better, the aspects of loyalty and "being good enough" are fleeting even for men that are putting in the work.
The amount of men watching other men (with already better lifestyles) get walked on and screwed over is a causing a lot of tension and hesitation while also killing confidence. Meanwhile women are cheering other women to abandon relationships and simultaneously start thinking that they can do better too even if there's no real issues.
The current reasons that women are leaving relationships for are the same type of reasons that couples in the past used to work through issues and strengthen their relationship.
re: Trade Target# 1
Posted by Dantheman504 on 6/10/25 at 12:40 pm
If Giannis is traded then The bucks 26' and 27' should not be traded to go from #7 to #3 especially if we are already giving up #7. I'd rather trade Herb and future picks for #3 and keep #7.
A trade including Herb + any of #7/ 26'/ 27' needs to include an upgraded player. That's why I mentioned McCain/ Sengun/ Vassel because they are actually realistic upgrades with the assets we have.
Again, there is no reason to believe #7 also isn't better than Herb. So if you draft #2/#3 and #7 you could end up with (2) better players than Herb instead of #7 and Herb. Keeping #7 and trading Herb + picks for #2/#3 would be ideal.
In order to get another star (1) of CJ/ Murray/ Herb has to be traded. We can't trade for a player +25mil without including 1 of those guys. And adding a PG/ SG while losing Murray/ CJ doesn't do shite for us.
The answer is to trade Herb.
A trade including Herb + any of #7/ 26'/ 27' needs to include an upgraded player. That's why I mentioned McCain/ Sengun/ Vassel because they are actually realistic upgrades with the assets we have.
quote:
Just trying to get #3 without giving up Herb
Again, there is no reason to believe #7 also isn't better than Herb. So if you draft #2/#3 and #7 you could end up with (2) better players than Herb instead of #7 and Herb. Keeping #7 and trading Herb + picks for #2/#3 would be ideal.
In order to get another star (1) of CJ/ Murray/ Herb has to be traded. We can't trade for a player +25mil without including 1 of those guys. And adding a PG/ SG while losing Murray/ CJ doesn't do shite for us.
The answer is to trade Herb.
re: Trade Target# 1
Posted by Dantheman504 on 6/10/25 at 12:30 pm
quote:
Pelicans
#3
Bucks
#7
Paul George (who they flip)
2006 NOLA Swap Rights pick
Not sure the Bucks want Hilton Armstrong. The Bucks would definitely want more picks regardless.
re: Trade Target# 1
Posted by Dantheman504 on 6/10/25 at 12:21 pm
There's a common opinion on here that Herb is a solidified starter on this team and the truth is that whatever player we draft this year could have him benched before the season is over.
Murray/ CJ/ Zion/ Trey have the most impact with the right roster. Knowing all this is also probably the main reason we are hearing Herb rumors and that he is the most likely to get traded.
The teams that want Herb are teams that will have him as 5th option or 6th man on a better team. So we need to accept that Herb starting at SG isn't doing shite for us.
The ONLY way that keeping Herb instead of upgrading from him makes us better is if we use him as a 6th man and get a C like Sengun. The only way we get better is upgrading Herb or getting good enough to make him 6th man. Herb starting on this roster is not a viable option for success. It sucks but its the truth.
Murray/ CJ/ Zion/ Trey have the most impact with the right roster. Knowing all this is also probably the main reason we are hearing Herb rumors and that he is the most likely to get traded.
The teams that want Herb are teams that will have him as 5th option or 6th man on a better team. So we need to accept that Herb starting at SG isn't doing shite for us.
The ONLY way that keeping Herb instead of upgrading from him makes us better is if we use him as a 6th man and get a C like Sengun. The only way we get better is upgrading Herb or getting good enough to make him 6th man. Herb starting on this roster is not a viable option for success. It sucks but its the truth.
re: Trade Target# 1
Posted by Dantheman504 on 6/10/25 at 12:13 pm
quote:
Drafting someone at #7 is different than someone at #3.
Bruh the reason to go from #7 to #3 is to get a better player who you want to start now. And again Herb was a late 2nd round pick so to act like even #7 won't end up bet or getting someone benched is wild.
quote:
So who's playing SG?
One of the (2) 6'10 shooters. And the other one plays SF.
When Murray comes back you probably move Ace to 6th man unless he's going off and CJ takes a step back. And if they are all going off then you maybe even start all (5) of them and leave Missi off the bench if we don't get another center. I don't see that last part as likely tho.
re: Trade Target# 1
Posted by Dantheman504 on 6/10/25 at 11:56 am
quote:
You don't draft a guy at 3 to develop off the bench. He needs to start right away. What spot does he play?
I don't understand your question. If we lose Herb and Murray is out for the start of the season then you have:
CJ
Trey
Zion
Missi
So Ace would start at SG/ SF and CJ will play PG. Which was probably the plan anyway because our only other option is Jose (yikes).
You are acting like we wouldn't be in the exact same situation if we drafted Flagg #1 or any other player in the top 10 besides a PG.
If you are trading Herb then Jose is the next best player on the bench for PG/ SG (which is terrible). So anyone we draft in the 1st round will most likely start over him. And we still have Missi starting at center which is ehhh.
re: Trade Target# 1
Posted by Dantheman504 on 6/10/25 at 10:02 am
quote:
Question is...do Pels go ahead and try to maximize the return for Herb...or...hang on to him for too long and get less of a return? It's the Pels...so I'm gussing the latter.
Any other year and I'd say we hold onto him. But this year it is clear Trey/ Zion are staying and we either find success with those 2 or atleast 1 of them will be gone. Simultaneously we have a few holes and trading Murray/ CJ could hurt us more than help us. Trading Herb for upgrades or long term pieces just makes the most sense.
You could do:
Spurs: Herb/ 26' Pels/ 26' MIL swap/ 29' Pels
Pels: #2
Spurs still have #14, get Herb, and get 2 extra picks. We would have Harper and #7. If you do something like that then it makes it just that much easier to trade Zion and rebuild if things don't work out.
We essentially have Herb/ Olynyk + #7 + (4) 1st to do whatever tf we want. I personally hope we take advantage of that knowing we have Zion/ Murray to trade on the back end.
re: Trade Target# 1
Posted by Dantheman504 on 6/10/25 at 9:39 am
quote:
McCain would be ideal but i doubt they give him up
What would you give up to make it happen on top of this trade?
76ers: Herb/ Olynyk/ #7/ 26' Pels/ 29' Pels
Pels: Jared McCain/ #3/ 28' 2nd
If they say no and MIL trades Giannis then we could probably add the 26' MIL swap and I think that trade is close.
Or how many 1st would you include with Herb to get #2 from SAS and keep #7?
These are the type of trades we let go of Herb for IMO
re: Trade Target# 1
Posted by Dantheman504 on 6/10/25 at 9:33 am
My top (3) trade scenarios would probably be an outline of:
Spurs: Herb/ Olynyk/ #7/ ?????
Pels: Vassell/ #2
(Maybe Herb + #7 get us Harper straight up)
Hou: Herb/ Olynyk/ ????
Pels: Sengun/ T Eason
PHI: Herb/ Olynyk/ #7/ ?????
Pels: McCain/ #3
Clearly some of those trades are going to require several future picks/ assets but worth it. Theoretically we can attach up to (5) 1st in these packages including our #7 pick. I really don't see any of these as unrealistic compared to other options.
Spurs: Herb/ Olynyk/ #7/ ?????
Pels: Vassell/ #2
(Maybe Herb + #7 get us Harper straight up)
Hou: Herb/ Olynyk/ ????
Pels: Sengun/ T Eason
PHI: Herb/ Olynyk/ #7/ ?????
Pels: McCain/ #3
Clearly some of those trades are going to require several future picks/ assets but worth it. Theoretically we can attach up to (5) 1st in these packages including our #7 pick. I really don't see any of these as unrealistic compared to other options.
re: Trade Target# 1
Posted by Dantheman504 on 6/10/25 at 9:28 am
I've read a few articles that mention Pels and Philly discussing #3 for #7 and Philly also really likes Herb and we really like Ace Bailey.
What do y'all think about this?
76ers: Herb/ Olynyk/ #7/ 26' Pels/ 29' Pels
Pels: Jared McCain/ #3/ 28' 2nd
The trade outline would start with:
76ers: Herb
Pels: #3
But there are many scenarios to split up assets after that. Herb and (2) 1st for just #3 and we keep #7? Herb and #7 for #3 and a future 1st? I doubt we get McCain but should get an additional assets if we trade #7 and Herb.
Philly: #7/ Herb
Pels: #3/ ???????
What do y'all think about this?
76ers: Herb/ Olynyk/ #7/ 26' Pels/ 29' Pels
Pels: Jared McCain/ #3/ 28' 2nd
The trade outline would start with:
76ers: Herb
Pels: #3
But there are many scenarios to split up assets after that. Herb and (2) 1st for just #3 and we keep #7? Herb and #7 for #3 and a future 1st? I doubt we get McCain but should get an additional assets if we trade #7 and Herb.
Philly: #7/ Herb
Pels: #3/ ???????
re: Who is funding No Kings??
Posted by Dantheman504 on 6/9/25 at 3:25 pm
quote:
No Kings Funding
The "No Kings" protests are funded and organized by a coalition of over 150 progressive organizations, watchdogs, climate groups, and other entities.
Yeah no shite, "who owns the entities" is the real question.
"No Kings is funded by democrats" is an already obvious answer
re: They need to break this out!
Posted by Dantheman504 on 6/9/25 at 12:04 pm
quote:
Just fly about 10 retired F-14 Tomcats at 300 feet above the 101 and buzz the tower. Always wanted to see that happen and a shithole like L.A.
Great plan, you pay for that with your own money and then we can actually work on a solution to clearing the streets instead of wasting billions on a 10 second flyover.
re: I really hope the rumors of Trey Murphy on the block are false.
Posted by Dantheman504 on 6/9/25 at 10:28 am
There was a somewhat recent sports article talking about a Murray trade and mentioned that "he didn't play well with us and didn't look good with Zion". They didn't even play a regular season game together and Murray was in a new system. Those comments have absolutely no merit.
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