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Don't get it twisted. Zion Williamson was the number 1 reason this team won less than 30 games in year 7 of his career.

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I just don't agree. If I had to rank our failures.

1. Horrible leadership. We fired a coach that lost the locker room, tons of dysfunction from the top/down. Had to be cleaned and purged.

2. Poole was a ghost and was straight up horrible when we he did play. We had to have his shooting and consistent playmaker. He was a negative. Biggest disappointment on the team.

3. Murray missing basically the whole year. I though we'd get at least half a season from him, with him being really effective the last 20 or so games of the year. That didn't come close to happening.

4. Playing two rookies extended minutes and starting them for most of the year. Especially two project players. That's a lot growth, but it cost the team. Hopefully it pays off in the future.

5. Both Murphy and Jones missing extended time. If we had either one at certain stretches we pull in many more wins. Specifically Murphy out during the home stretch of the year. We would have easily hit 30 wins otherwise.

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He is a power forward that doesn't rebound

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Zion is not a PF. Zion is a powerful wing. We only play one big most of the time. Hes the strongest player in the league, but he's also one of the quickest and fastest.

Its odd that Zion gets hit with this type of backlash, but Murphy is alright? He's 6'10 with great athleticism and leaping ability. So why isn't he a better rebounder? Why cant he put on some muscle and bang some?

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We've seen the best of Zion Williamson and it led absolutely nowhere bc he was unprofessional off the basketball court and he could not stay healthy or rehab properly enough to salvage seasons when we had BI, CJ, Jonas, Naji, Dyson, Trey, Herb and Jose to support him against a much weaker West (OKC, Spurs and Houston were not good yet).

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I don't dwell in the past. I look towards the future. Zion is still the most talented player on the team. If we trade him, we're in full rebuild. I just dont see the team doing that. So we need to optimize what we have. If that upsets or disappoints you, then you're just not going to have much fun as a Pelicans fan this offseason..

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think using win loss record from last year is very misleading, because we were the only terrible team in the league TRYING TO WIN after the All-Star break.

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I agree. It was just a weird flex. We were obviously much better when he played.

Zion actually had a decent year though. He should have played more, but it was a good step forward. He's not the reason we sucked so bad. I'm not even sure he's in the top 5 of that list..

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Jason Kidd fired.

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40M left on his deal. That's crazy.

He might have agreed to a buyout though. I didn't realize he wanted the POBO role and was turned down..

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If we are going by strict lat and long on the map Memphis is 0.1 degrees more east than New Orleans while Minneapolis is 3.2 degrees further west than New Orleans so technically it should be Memphis and then New Orleans going east with Minnesota being the furthest west of the 3.

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The goal should be grouping teams together. The two closest West teams to the Wolves are Memphis and OKC, which are both about 800 miles away. From Minny to both Milwaukee and Chicago is about half that. The Wolves should be with those teams around the Great Lakes. It's stronger rivalries. Like ours should be with the Texas teams. I think the only missing for us rival wise are the Hawks, which would usually be paired with a team from New Orleans. But it just doesn't seem as passionate as the groups up north. Not a lot of Pelican haters where I live. To be fair, there doesn't seem to be a ton of Hawks fans either..

He'll be fine.

But we have to fix this roster. Need balance and depth..

The article says one game in Manchester and another in Paris. I think that is pretty cool. It's kind of dead in January and gets the team on a long trip. I'm pretty sure we'll know whether we have something going or preparing strip down and tank by that time.

I don't mind Mosely as a candidate. If he's the guy they are targeting, and he's hesitant, I get it. It has to be tough to have your team turn against you, and it was a horrible constructed team. They will be purging that roster in a year or two..

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No way. I understand the team dynamics are different, on account of one being great and the other being horrendous, but no way would I make that trade. Fears is 19 years old and averaged 14/4/3 and Wallace is 22 and averaged 8/3/3 in 1 minute more per game. Fears is also 1 year into his rookie contract and Wallace, like you said, is going to get paid soon.

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They are projecting Wallace to get a 4Y/100M deal. This is all how you predict each one going forward. I believe that Wallace can score an efficient 12+ppg, while being an elite level defender combo guard (ala Marcus Smart or Avery Bradley). He would slide into the backcourt along with Murray, since he can play 2-3 positions. So we aren't pressed to try and balance Fears and Murray, or trade Murray to make room for Fears. It just schematically fixes our line up and plugs major holes. Adding Joe is a major bonus. Losing Jones hurts, bit I like Bey taking his spot/minutes.

We need to add players from winning cultures/systems.

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Nobody in that front office should have a job after last season.

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Do you honestly think they are firing Dumars after less than a year on the job? Seriously, is that what you think could, should, or will happen?

That's just not in any way realistic. I'm not defending Dumars, but I mean come on. That's just not going to happen. He gets at least 2 more years to try to do whatever he's going to do.

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and despite having a pretty healthy roster and drafting good rookies, we won 26 games.

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We had horrible health this year. Only 3 guys hit 70 games, two were the rookies. Still too many guys missing too many games. The Poole thing was a disaster. I still do not understand what the hell happened there. Way too many guys missing time for no reason or mysterious circumstances. We should have easily hit 32 wins, probably closer to 35. We let too many easy wins go..

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Also your research sucks. You did not know Julius Randle was traded for KAT in the Dyson thread.

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I'm the biggest Randle fan and defender on the board. Of course I knew about the trade. How could you think I didn't know they were traded for one another? That's just dumb. It was a huge trade.

I said "Huh", because you termed it like the Knicks got better by trading them for one another. Then you covered your arse by posting article that said both teams made out ok, so I didn't see a point in carrying on the conversation.

What does any of that have to do with this conversation? Why would you remember and bring it back up?

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You seem to want everyone else to do the research for you and do not like the answers.

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No. I've done plenty of research over the past weeks. I don't agree with the majority of the people here, about Brown, and i want to understand why the feel the way they do. So I'm engaging in a discussion. I'm not accepting "he's bad" or "he's friend with Dumars", as legit criticisms or reasons to bypass a candidate. I want to know why he's bad or why being friend with Dumars is a disqualifier (news flash, Dumars is the former executive VP of the league and has met with the vast majority of people associated with the league. So good luck finding someone he's not familiar and friendly)..

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Willie Green would be better than Darvin Ham

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No he's not.

This is the frustrating part about all of this. Nobody can explain how he's bad. He was in the playoffs both years with the Lakers. He's been a successful assistant. He's won two inseason tournaments. He's a legit good coach. His team had a meltdown and lost in the playoffs (to the eventual champion). People are blaming him for not winning a Championship with the Lakers. That's an insanely high bar. For some reason Reddick is getting a pass on that. I just don't get the vitriol. It doesn't make sense..