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re: NBA Offseason officially kicks off, Ingram’s days in NOLA coming to an end per Stein

Posted on 7/24/24 at 3:11 pm to
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
13897 posts
Posted on 7/24/24 at 3:11 pm to
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If they aren't going to sign anybody else or trade for anybody before the season starts then sure, he's a big body and we might need that, but he's still a fringe NBA player for a reason.
That is what 2-way contracts are for. Not going to sign a star to a 2-way.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
34811 posts
Posted on 7/24/24 at 3:35 pm to
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100% agreed. But there's 0 minutes for either at PG or SF.

Even if they both get injured then you have Reeves/ Ryan and your usual support.
I just don't see any realistic scenario where a 2 way guard/ SF get any minutes on this roster.

We are talking about playing small ball and not getting a center because we can't play all of our guys at PG-SF already.



I'd also rather have them use a 2 way spot on a guy like Orlando robinson at center.

These 2 ways aren't just about this yr though. This is about finding an nba guy at any position. These guys might be on the roster for 10 days.

I'd use at least one spot on a center since they don't have any young talent in the pipeline.

Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 7/24/24 at 3:39 pm to
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But I would not be shocked if Cain was getting minutes over Hawkins during the season because 1A) defense, and 1B) more defense,


If this is what Willie might do they should just trade Hawk now. It makes no sense to play a 2 way guy because of his defense over your first round pick you’ve invested in. It’s astronomically stupid to do this, and a complete waste of drafting Hawkins to begin with.
Posted by PELsu
Member since Oct 2021
1781 posts
Posted on 7/24/24 at 3:48 pm to
X Rumor

Cavs one of teams interested in Cam Johnson. Just for fun and convo, what makes this make sense:

Nets get: Brandon Ingram
Cavs get: Cam Johnson and Dorian Finney-Smith
Pels get: Jarrett Allen and Caris Lavert
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
32391 posts
Posted on 7/24/24 at 4:43 pm to
Nets are in an interesting situation.

They traded bridges because the return was absolutely too good to pass up.

The swaps and all, they still need to at least be competitive right?

Picks need to flow to us in that situation
Posted by PELsu
Member since Oct 2021
1781 posts
Posted on 7/24/24 at 4:57 pm to
I am not a Lavert fan, but we do need wing help if BI is going out. Lavert gives us a veteran backup wing that comes off the books when Trey’s extension kicks in.

Brooklyns books are wide open after this season and after this deal, besides Nic Claxton’s extension. As you said, no reason Brooklyn can’t try to build a team sooner with their own picks compromised. I think they are an ideal suitor for BI.

I can’t possibly guess what Cleveland is hoping for at this point and don’t ultimately think they trade Allen. But Cam’s salary being similar got my attention.
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
13897 posts
Posted on 7/24/24 at 5:12 pm to
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I am not a Lavert fan, but we do need wing help if BI is going out. Lavert gives us a veteran backup wing that comes off the books when Trey’s extension kicks in.

Brooklyns books are wide open after this season and after this deal, besides Nic Claxton’s extension. As you said, no reason Brooklyn can’t try to build a team sooner with their own picks compromised. I think they are an ideal suitor for BI.

I can’t possibly guess what Cleveland is hoping for at this point and don’t ultimately think they trade Allen. But Cam’s salary being similar got my attention.
Not a bad suggestion. If possible, may send Ryan out to Nets, Cavs keep Levert and DFS to Pels. That should allow Pels to skirt tax. Or, just sending out Ryan in your proposed trade may do it as well (very close).
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
15203 posts
Posted on 7/24/24 at 5:17 pm to
I could see them throwing a big contract after the season to BI. No need to give up assets now.
Posted by PELsu
Member since Oct 2021
1781 posts
Posted on 7/24/24 at 5:28 pm to
Not wrong and a good point. They would certainly be at risk that any other team with cap space could have a better basketball situation. And BI would be signing without bird rights unless we agree to play ball. But not insurmountable things maybe.
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
32391 posts
Posted on 7/24/24 at 6:53 pm to
Them giving up cam Johnson is two fold, they're giving up on a player who's shown he's limited.

His contract is average, I think he's worth a first.

They don't want to be bad enough to give up a high pick away. They get Ingram who should push them into that 30 win territory. Allows them to have the upper hand to keep him as well and losing 0 picks in the process.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 7/24/24 at 6:55 pm to
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Allows them to have the upper hand to keep him as well and losing 0 picks in the process.


I find it hard to believe the Pels and Cavs both wouldn't be expecting at least 1 1st to get that deal done.
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
17861 posts
Posted on 7/24/24 at 7:18 pm to
Yup, Brooklyn is in a position to tank for Flagg, they won’t trade for someone that takes them out of that position. They want draft picks and expiring contracts of mediocre players, they not trading for Ingram
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2010
8543 posts
Posted on 7/24/24 at 10:44 pm to
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I’d argue there will be more and more Steph’s


Bruh, what? Steph Curry is one of the greatest scorers in nba history. Do you recall 2015, when he shot 45% on 9 threes a game. Also averaged 30ppg and won his second straight mvp. He even led the league in steals, which I didn’t expect to see.

You expect to see more and more of that guy?
This post was edited on 7/24/24 at 10:46 pm
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2010
8543 posts
Posted on 7/24/24 at 10:49 pm to
Lavert wouldn’t excite me, but I would very much like Jarrett Allen, so yes.

Of all the hypothetical lineups we’ve thrown out there, I like the sound of Murray/CJ/Herb/Zion/Allen the most. Either that or some variant that replaces either CJ or Herb with Trey
Posted by BallHawk
Orlando
Member since Jul 2011
6214 posts
Posted on 7/25/24 at 6:44 am to
I still think, if a BI trade isn't happening, the smart moves are to trade Hawk for Kessler and maybe swing a deal with Chicago for Torrey Craig or go sign a defensive wing in FA to a vet min. Oshae Brissett comes to mind there or Reggie Bullock.
Posted by Dantheman504
N/A
Member since Jun 2013
6918 posts
Posted on 7/25/24 at 9:06 am to
Give me (1) of Allen/ Kessler + #1 remaining free agent

And we are set.

Posted by BallHawk
Orlando
Member since Jul 2011
6214 posts
Posted on 7/25/24 at 10:44 am to
I have a really dumb trade idea lol

Pels get Jarrett Allen and Jordan Clarkson

Cavs get Cam Johnson, Walker Kessler, Dorian Finney-Smith

Jazz get Caris LeVert, Jordan Hawkins

Nets get BI

Plus picks tossed around in there somewhere
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37425 posts
Posted on 7/25/24 at 11:06 am to
The issue that I see with it, is that the Nets are one of the only teams that could just sign BI outright next off season if they really wanted him.
Posted by PELsu
Member since Oct 2021
1781 posts
Posted on 7/25/24 at 11:06 am to
That’s pretty rough for the Jazz
Posted by BallHawk
Orlando
Member since Jul 2011
6214 posts
Posted on 7/25/24 at 11:46 am to
Agreed and they aren't giving up much to get him now (bird rights and all).

Yeah, Jazz kind of getting less in players but more in picks....assuming they want to take for Flagg.
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