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re: NBA Offseason officially kicks off, Ingram’s days in NOLA coming to an end per Stein

Posted on 7/18/24 at 2:17 pm to
Posted by BallHawk
Orlando
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 7/18/24 at 2:17 pm to
Good pickup for Denver. They needed a backup PG.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 7/18/24 at 2:18 pm to
Does this do anything for the Jazz for future trades ie salary etc
Posted by Mad Scientist26
Member since Jul 2018
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Posted on 7/18/24 at 2:20 pm to
I really used to think Kris Dunn was going to be really good when he was coming out of the draft. Guess you never know lol
This post was edited on 7/18/24 at 2:21 pm
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 7/18/24 at 2:21 pm to
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
17861 posts
Posted on 7/18/24 at 6:58 pm to
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Does this do anything for the Jazz for future trades ie salary etc

Not really, this still leaves them with 24 million in available cap space to use. Westbrook’s contract was only for 4 million
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37426 posts
Posted on 7/18/24 at 7:37 pm to
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I'm rather chocked dlo doesn't have more value. A 18/3/6 pg who shoots 40+% from 3 over the past 2 years. While only making 18mil?

Have you ever watched him play? He has games where he looks like an all star and other games where he’s just flat out awful. He’s not consistent enough to be your starting guard, probably best served as a sixth man.
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
32391 posts
Posted on 7/18/24 at 7:53 pm to
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Have you ever watched him play? He has games where he looks like an all star and other games where he’s just flat out awful. He’s not consistent enough to be your starting guard, probably best served as a sixth man.



That's an elite 6th man/guard. For cost, he's still a plus player.

We said that with lonzo when he was here. we won or lost games based on his 3pt shooting. good games, we won. bad games, we lost.

Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2010
8545 posts
Posted on 7/19/24 at 12:23 pm to
Some fairly interesting nuggets for comparison

Daniel Theis INTL Stats

Karlo Matkovic INTL Stats

I’m just looking to gauge expectations without having the summer league performance affect my thinking. If the euro league stats for the two are any indication, Karlo could indeed be an upgrade over Theis.
This post was edited on 7/19/24 at 12:24 pm
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 7/19/24 at 12:26 pm to
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The player the Grizzlies traded up to take while the Pels slid back and got Trey Murphy III
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 7/19/24 at 2:27 pm to
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The player the Grizzlies traded up to take while the Pels slid back and got Trey Murphy III
He has started 50 games for the Grizzlies. Solid low risk move by the Nets.
Posted by 3PieceSpicy
Metairie
Member since Jan 2021
7913 posts
Posted on 7/19/24 at 4:05 pm to
He oddly was a good Ingram stopper as a young player and then started getting injured repeatedly. He also likes men.
Posted by saintslsupels
Member since Jul 2014
2492 posts
Posted on 7/19/24 at 5:56 pm to
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He also likes men.

You would know from experience.
Posted by 3PieceSpicy
Metairie
Member since Jan 2021
7913 posts
Posted on 7/19/24 at 7:30 pm to
Just listen to 1-2 interviews of Ziaire and it’s pretty easy to spot

I like Joe Burrow, so I guess you are technically right
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37426 posts
Posted on 7/20/24 at 8:08 am to
Listening to the Hoop Collective from yesterday and Bontemps said he expects the starting lineup on opening night to be: DJ, Trey, Herb, BI, and Zion, thinks CJ is coming off the bench because we have to start Trey and Herb. Mcmahon says that we have to trade BI for a starting caliber center before the season.

ETA: Windy agrees with McMahon because it doesn’t make sense to go into the season with no center because the league is trending big and rebounding is important.
This post was edited on 7/20/24 at 8:13 am
Posted by PELsu
Member since Oct 2021
1781 posts
Posted on 7/20/24 at 9:54 am to
I would like to mention another option not talked about enough…..Day’Ron Sharpe with the Brooklyn Nets. Here is a well done breakdown of his third year in the league:

Sharpe breakdown

22 years old, making $4 million this year and restricted afterwards. The Nets just locked in Nic Claxton at nearly $30 million per to be their center and are in full rebuild.

Per 36, Day’Ron was:

16.2 points, 15.2 rebounds, 1.7 blocks, 3.3 assists, 57.1% FG

He’s not the tallest at more like 6’9, but he’s an athletic above average rebounder and rim protector. I think he’s perfect to do all the little dirty work things we need, and even gives you strong interior passing.

I might even like him more than Kessler for us.
Posted by LSUChamps03
S. Louisiana
Member since Feb 2006
3267 posts
Posted on 7/20/24 at 10:17 am to
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Is Reeves not a viable replacement for Hawkins?


I asked this question on 7/6, and response was essentially “no way”. After summer league I’ll ask again. I have watched very little of SL minus highlights and skimmed through threads on here, so it’s an honest question.

I asked then and ask again in the context of including Hawkins as a trade piece.
This post was edited on 7/20/24 at 10:22 am
Posted by PELsu
Member since Oct 2021
1781 posts
Posted on 7/20/24 at 10:23 am to
I think Reaves is a better all around basketball player and I would be doing everything I could to use Hawkins salary slot for a young center if I could. Call me crazy.
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
17861 posts
Posted on 7/20/24 at 10:36 am to
Some of yall have way ti much recency bias and put way to much stock in summer league play.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 7/20/24 at 10:52 am to
We just need to be patient and wait until preseason to reevaluate this. That gives Hawkins more time to work on his handle or some other new skill, and the team will get a chance to see Reeves against real NBA players in practice and preseason. Then you can see if Reeves makes Hawkins expendable.

One thing to consider though is if the plan is still to trade BI at the deadline, which I have to assume it is unless they just win all the games, then does trading Hawkins now when the Pels are desperate for a center sell low on him?

I still think Hawkins is destined to be traded unless he actually adds some new skills this summer, but you want to trade him when the other team is desperate, not when you are. Just like how Dyson helped you trade for Dejounte.

Trading for Duren or Kessler with extra picks because the Pels are desperate would be a wasteful move if some form of BI for Allen is coming 4 months later. In fact, I could see regretting the Hawkins/Center trade and wishing you had more shooting on your bench after instead of an extra big.
This post was edited on 7/20/24 at 10:55 am
Posted by Pels247
Member since May 2024
27 posts
Posted on 7/20/24 at 10:55 am to
I think Sharpe would be a great option for us if we aren’t able to make an Ingram trade. I’m not sure what it would take to get him, but I imagine it would be much less than Kessler and he should fit into the Kira TPE.

His advanced numbers are actually pretty good. Dunksandthrees has him in the 99th% in offensive rebounding and 95th% in defensive rebounding. They also have him in the 91st% in block percentage.
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