3PieceSpicy

26 year old Rookie QB and 28 Year Old 2nd Year WR

Don't leave out important pieces of context. If Shough was good at QB, he'd be in his 3rd or 4th season by now, same story w Vele.

NBA is a Cuck league

Outlier behavior is good behavior in this league

I'm fine with it and would've been fine with it if the Hawks did it to us while up 20.

You could make the argument that the signs were there to trade Zion after year 1.

Exhibit 1) Gets injured and has a 6 week timeline. Misses it by 7 weeks due to poor rehab habits and blowing up to 315 plus pounds.

Exhibit 2) Pulls hamstring in bubble. Weaponized COVID situation and forced the team to say he left the bubble due to a personal matter. We had an entire board speculating if his mom was on a ventilator or something. Turns out, it was a hamstring (we found out 3-4 years later from Christian Clark I believe). Comes back to the bubble 7-10 days later and somehow gained 15-20 pounds (while he was supposed to be getting opinions and treatment on his hamstring).

If you trade him year 2, you get a damn good haul. And we had enough cause. He was an immature baby in year 1. He had already shown his inability to be a professional and to stay healthy.

We don't know for a fact. Them calling back to confirm was a solid on their part that they shouldn't have even done. That does not mean they would've done the same deal w top 6 protection.

I'd have to imagine, a Top 1 or 2 protection at the very least would've still gotten the deal done though considering the lotto odds.

Zeon just trotting around and getting some cardio while our other 4 guys actually hoop.

And then powerwalked off the court and didn't even come close to playing another game that year

He was great in that game for sure. That's not the issue.

For us to win a championship, he's got to put up 70 of those performances in the regular season and about 28-30 of them in the playoffs

His body exploded during 1 play in game (and since his game style is so limited), he couldn't even try to play through it.

That's why players like Luka, Jokic, Shai, Cade, and Sengun are the new age consistent goats.

Sure they can get injured, but their games are nuanced and based off skill, so A) they have a chance to play through it and B) they aren't going to get injured as often bc their game consists of dozens of skills, instead of just barrelling as hard as they can into the paint. Winning basketball and playoff basketball is about sustainability. Zion's body and game style has close to zero chance to make it through 100 games as the best player on a team.

Did you lose respect for Demario Davis for leading Drew Brees down that path?

Zion and Griff destroyed the franchise. Dumars might have delivered the final blow, but don't act like Dumars walked into a great situation. He walked into a situation that was ran poorly for 6 years and a "star player" that simply doesn't love basketball.

Queen is Cornerstore Sengun and I'm digging it

All wanna be thug dudes with under 65 IQ's, all reach the same conclusion with a dishonest thought process. Not surprised.