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LSUChamps03
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re: What's left of the Basketball team two players .
Posted by LSUChamps03 on 4/11/26 at 2:16 pm to Portcityblues
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Michigans lineup were transfers but a few of their starters/contributors were there multiple years. They weren’t all year one guys there
It was also Dusty May’s second season at Michigan.
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re: What's left of the Basketball team two players .
Posted by LSUChamps03 on 4/11/26 at 12:45 pm to ELTIGRE55
This isn’t your Grandma’s college basketball. It’s a new age of pick up ball. I think Michigan’s entire starting lineup were transfers.
re: Haggerty to A&M now
Posted by LSUChamps03 on 4/11/26 at 10:07 am to TigerBite
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Could be any reason. Doesn't matter the reason and no point in us trying to figure it out.
Correct. For the people thinking we got outbid and couldn’t pay up, that’s not likely the case.
re: Haggerty to A&M now
Posted by LSUChamps03 on 4/11/26 at 9:19 am to bubbz
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Lost out to money - per Verge that would never happen
Could it be PJH asked for a number Wade wasn’t willing to go, not because he couldn’t but because he didn’t value him at that number?
re: AD still salty he never got a tribute video
Posted by LSUChamps03 on 4/9/26 at 9:05 am to jmcwhrter
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You know what's crazy? When I went back, I did not get a tribute.
This sums up this pitiful bastard better than anything I could have come up with myself. What a self-absorbed, self-unaware titty baby.
re: Burrow Foundation Event at TOP Golf in BR
Posted by LSUChamps03 on 4/9/26 at 8:50 am to schwartzy
I’m curious to know what it costs to reserve a bay.
re: So, is it kinda true the SEC was cheating way more than anyone else pre NIL?
Posted by LSUChamps03 on 4/8/26 at 3:59 pm to RunningJacket
There has been a turn to a more offensive-led philosophy. As a fan that can be fun. But I do remember the days when the one given in life was that LSU would have a solid defense. And that was equally exciting and a calling card I think you need to win in the playoffs.
It is interesting to contemplate where in the pecking order GA Tech would be in the SEC had it not left. I don’t know that Tulane would have had great success had it remained in the conference, but where would you place GA Tech 2026 had it never walked away from the SEC? I don’t know enough about Tech to make an honest assessment, I just perceive it could be upper half. I mean it did win a NC in 1990, so not like it’s had no success post SEC.
It is interesting to contemplate where in the pecking order GA Tech would be in the SEC had it not left. I don’t know that Tulane would have had great success had it remained in the conference, but where would you place GA Tech 2026 had it never walked away from the SEC? I don’t know enough about Tech to make an honest assessment, I just perceive it could be upper half. I mean it did win a NC in 1990, so not like it’s had no success post SEC.
re: MBB Offseason '26 Transfer Portal / HS Tracker
Posted by LSUChamps03 on 4/8/26 at 2:28 pm to sportsfan
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Requested sticky...appreciate the updates tigersham!
I second that motion
re: So, is it kinda true the SEC was cheating way more than anyone else pre NIL?
Posted by LSUChamps03 on 4/8/26 at 2:21 pm to RunningJacket
Well thought out post, I generally agree with most of your points. But I don’t agree the SEC is anyone’s lap dog. Nor do I think the Big 10, Big 12, ACC, or any other conference was ever the SEC’s lapdog. That’s not really how I view it.
Re: paying players, from my recollection reading about sports here and there over the years you can probably point to Bear Bryant and John Wooden as the architects of wholesale. But, hell, I don’t know. Whoever perfected it and “won” because of it good on ‘em. Honesty in recruiting and sports died a long time ago across the spectrum of college athletics.
Re: paying players, from my recollection reading about sports here and there over the years you can probably point to Bear Bryant and John Wooden as the architects of wholesale. But, hell, I don’t know. Whoever perfected it and “won” because of it good on ‘em. Honesty in recruiting and sports died a long time ago across the spectrum of college athletics.
re: So, is it kinda true the SEC was cheating way more than anyone else pre NIL?
Posted by LSUChamps03 on 4/8/26 at 12:59 pm to The Third Leg
Denial? You’re a conspiracy theorist Big 10 fanboy with an axe to grind. I recognize the last 3 NCs have been Big 10, but it’s a short-term trend that does not elevate the Big 10 above the SEC. Sure teams are catching up, and Big 10 has shown its top teams are on par. But you are grasping at straws, buddy.
re: So, is it kinda true the SEC was cheating way more than anyone else pre NIL?
Posted by LSUChamps03 on 4/8/26 at 12:33 pm to The Third Leg
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To say they’ve not fallen behind based on polls that heavily favored them all season is silly. Even sillier to chalk up all bowls as trash barometers because LSU had a program in flux. Illinois beat Tennessee in Tennessee. Illinois had a 50+ point loss on its resume and they both had about the same number of opt outs.
Anecdotal again. Look at the big picture. Fallen behind as in other conferences may have a few teams that can directly compete consistently with SEC? Sure. Fallen “behind” the Big 10? Garbage. The SEC hasn’t fallen behind anyone.
Again, I don’t know who held out for other SEC teams during the bowl season, but I do know chalking up Houston’s 3-pt win vs LSU in the Texas Bowl, for example, as some evidence the SEC has fallen behind is silly.
We’re getting nowhere with this discussion, we’re both dug in on our opinions, and taking over a thread. Good luck to Big 10 Iowa.
re: MBB Offseason '26 Transfer Portal / HS Tracker
Posted by LSUChamps03 on 4/8/26 at 11:15 am to tigersham
I see that Garwey Dual from McNeese is in the portal, along with Larry Johnson. What are your thoughts on their possible fit at LSU?
re: So, is it kinda true the SEC was cheating way more than anyone else pre NIL?
Posted by LSUChamps03 on 4/8/26 at 10:45 am to RunningJacket
I mean polls are certainly a widely-accepted comparison we can use to make an argument as to the best teams. Give me your opinion of what the final top 10 should have been. Your arguments against the polls seem like a jaded Big 10 fan with an agenda - “collusion”, “in bed with EDPN”… cry me a river, dude. Talk about opinions, that’s 99% of your argument. Love the guys who call other people clueless simply because their argument is countered by another equally legitimate (that’s being generous to your takes) point of view as theirs.
How about this trend. In the last 20 years the SEC has won 13 NCs, Big 10 has won 4, ACC 3. You can manipulate stats any way you wish.
And go on with your 4-10 bowl arg, it shows how clueless or willfully dishonest you choose to be.
How about this trend. In the last 20 years the SEC has won 13 NCs, Big 10 has won 4, ACC 3. You can manipulate stats any way you wish.
And go on with your 4-10 bowl arg, it shows how clueless or willfully dishonest you choose to be.
re: So, is it kinda true the SEC was cheating way more than anyone else pre NIL?
Posted by LSUChamps03 on 4/8/26 at 10:09 am to The Third Leg
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Football hasn’t leveled out, the SEC has clearly fallen behind. Their big ten now has 3 straight national titles from 3 separate schools and the SEC didn’t contend for any of them. And they’re coming off a humiliating postseason that saw them go 4-10, with one of the wins being against another SEC team, after being hyped all season as the superior league and gifted 5/12 playoff spots, while the league lobbied for even more.
SEC has fallen behind? The final top 10 included 5 SEC teams, 3 BIG 10, 1 ACC and 1 Big 12. While I think Indiana was the best team this season, an ACC team who didn’t win its conference (didn’t play in its conference championship game) and was the lowest-seeded P5 team added to the playoffs (controversially) made it to the championship game and was a play away from winning.
Ohio St entered the playoffs the year prior with 2 losses, coming off a loss to an average Michigan team, and finished 3rd in its conference. It got hot in the playoffs and made a run.
Michigan beat Bama in the semis with Bama inside the 5 yard line at the end.
This is not meant to take away from what these teams achieved. Just to say winning a NC takes a lot of things falling in place.
It is what it is, but the SEC has not “clearly fallen behind.” The 3-year trend is in the Big 10’s favor, but there’s no reason to believe the SEC won’t continue the longer trend and win titles. I guess it remains to be seen. I’d like to know the teams you’d have put in the playoffs ahead of any of the SEC teams. There are certainly arguments to be made, but it’s only debatable, nothing egregious unless you just want to make an anti-SEC argument.
Regarding the 4-10 SEC bowl record… in LSU’s case it fielded a largely 2nd string team in its bowl game. I’d bet it’s similar for the other SEC teams outside of the playoff. I don’t put much stock in bowl results when determining conference strength. Of course it’s a “statistic” used as an angle to make a point by those who want to make that point.
re: How many spots do we have to fill for MBB?
Posted by LSUChamps03 on 4/7/26 at 7:30 pm to Portcityblues
All of them.
re: So, is it kinda true the SEC was cheating way more than anyone else pre NIL?
Posted by LSUChamps03 on 4/7/26 at 4:10 pm to RunningJacket
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As for better coaches come on with that. Saban was at Mich St and won nothing until he aligned with the bagmen in Tuscaloosa. He played it perfectly but he isn’t some great coach. Look at Cignetti- he didn’t suddenly become a hundred times better coach but he did get a hundred times better player pool and magically won. Gene Chizik won a freaking Natty using the bagman system and no one says he’s a genius coach.
You’re skipping over some things here. Saban did turn Mich St into a good program, he won there and left an 11-2 team when he moved to LSU. Where again he turned a program into a NC in 4 seasons. It wasn’t any big surprise he won at Alabama. He was one of if not the best coach and program builder in college athletics history. To say he isn’t some great coach? Wow.
re: So, is it kinda true the SEC was cheating way more than anyone else pre NIL?
Posted by LSUChamps03 on 4/7/26 at 3:56 pm to SECCaptain
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Because LSU burns taxpayer and student's tuition money on athletics. Literally no one wants anything to do with Louisiana unless it's for money, did Katrina teach your state nothing? I get it, LSU's enrollment would plummet without a successful athletics program as it's dependent upon morons attending simply to live vicariously through an athletics department they're not part of/doesn't give a shite about them aside from taking their money, but just how far is LSU willing to go with this?
There is so much wrong with this post I don’t know where to begin.
LSU does not support athletics with taxpayer dollars any more than any other university. LSU football revenue covers all athletics.
And what do you know about no one wanting anything to do with LA unless it involves $? There are plenty of us who live in, live well and have success and happiness in Louisiana.
You have no clue about the motivations others have for attending LSU. It has excellent law, medical, engineering, veterinary programs and is a well-regarded research institution. So maybe it’s not top-10 nationally. Only clowns and those with an axe to grind come to conclusions like yours.
And what’s your point about coaching salaries? It’s true everywhere. It’s called competing for top talent. Coaches aren’t sitting in the AD’s office telling Verge, “Louisiana sucks, so I’m demanding a premium.”
But tell yourself what you need to satisfy your apparent superiority complex.
re: So, is it kinda true the SEC was cheating way more than anyone else pre NIL?
Posted by LSUChamps03 on 4/7/26 at 3:16 pm to SECCaptain
People say the same thing about coaches. But coaches crawl to BR. You can’t assume every player if given an opportunity will choose one place over another. Way too many personal variables involved.
re: So, is it kinda true the SEC was cheating way more than anyone else pre NIL?
Posted by LSUChamps03 on 4/7/26 at 2:53 pm to The Third Leg
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SEC had better bag men, just a fact. I wish Iowa had that kind of action going on. They’d have been even better.
And this is a good point. All the schools and fans, for instance, hitting on LSU for spending big for its roster would be cheering on its school if it did the same. Since it can’t the refrain is “overspending”, “buying a championship”, etc. Good for you recognizing you wish Iowa had the means and would do it too. Off topic somewhat, I guess, but related…
re: So, is it kinda true the SEC was cheating way more than anyone else pre NIL?
Posted by LSUChamps03 on 4/7/26 at 2:46 pm to SECCaptain
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No 18 year old elite athlete is picking Baton Rouge, Tuscaloosa or Athens over Miami, FL unless there's serious money involved
There are only so many spots.
re: So, is it kinda true the SEC was cheating way more than anyone else pre NIL?
Posted by LSUChamps03 on 4/7/26 at 2:44 pm to The Third Leg
The SEC schools have had access to a greater quantity of the best talent, that’s indisputable. NIL has distributed the talent across a much larger geographical footprint.
Re: your other examples. Ed O had stints at Miami and USC long before he entered the SEC. I guarantee you those programs were where he learned his trade. The LSU situation was a single booster using his role on the board of a hospital to access funds to pay a player. The guy was arrested, required to pay the $ back, and no major finding or lack of institutional control was issued against LSU. Probably wasn’t his first rodeo, who knows. Newton, yeah, 100% took $. NCAA says no proof, but too much smoke.
I don’t deny the examples you’ve given. But there aren’t encyclopedias of examples. And I’m not arguing the SEC isn’t the most prolific - no one can say for sure. But everyone points to cheating to explain SEC dominance instead of things like access to talent pool, excellent coaches, resources allocated to athletics, etc. It’s easy to just say it’s cheating.
Any suggestion that the SEC somehow invented or perfected “cheating” is naive and disingenuous at best. I don’t deny the cases you’ve mentioned, but I still contend that to think big time programs throughout CFB have been pure or “cheated” on some less egregious level over the years isn’t provable. My opinion.
Re: your other examples. Ed O had stints at Miami and USC long before he entered the SEC. I guarantee you those programs were where he learned his trade. The LSU situation was a single booster using his role on the board of a hospital to access funds to pay a player. The guy was arrested, required to pay the $ back, and no major finding or lack of institutional control was issued against LSU. Probably wasn’t his first rodeo, who knows. Newton, yeah, 100% took $. NCAA says no proof, but too much smoke.
I don’t deny the examples you’ve given. But there aren’t encyclopedias of examples. And I’m not arguing the SEC isn’t the most prolific - no one can say for sure. But everyone points to cheating to explain SEC dominance instead of things like access to talent pool, excellent coaches, resources allocated to athletics, etc. It’s easy to just say it’s cheating.
Any suggestion that the SEC somehow invented or perfected “cheating” is naive and disingenuous at best. I don’t deny the cases you’ve mentioned, but I still contend that to think big time programs throughout CFB have been pure or “cheated” on some less egregious level over the years isn’t provable. My opinion.
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