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re: Game of Thrones S8E5 "The Bells" is officially the worst reviewed GOT episode yet
Posted on 5/14/19 at 9:52 am to Green Chili Tiger
Posted on 5/14/19 at 9:52 am to Green Chili Tiger
Regardless of what the RT/imdb score is, that was the best episode of the season and if you take the im going to hate no matter what blinders off, it was one of the best of the entire series.
It was an incredible episode. Just because a bunch idiot fans didnt get what they want they give it a bad rating. If a show doesnt go how you want it to go, that doesnt mean its a bad episode.
It didnt go how I wanted it to go AT ALL. But it was a good episode none the less.
It was an incredible episode. Just because a bunch idiot fans didnt get what they want they give it a bad rating. If a show doesnt go how you want it to go, that doesnt mean its a bad episode.
It didnt go how I wanted it to go AT ALL. But it was a good episode none the less.
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 9:52 am to RB10
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This is my only real complaint about how it's unfolding. Yes, the signs were there. Yes, many of us thought this could possibly be the ultimate outcome.
She went from slightly angry/emotional queen to full blown Hitler in less than 2 full episodes though.
Yep. It is the main theme of this season, everything is rushed. Yes over the course of all 8 seasons, she had definite signs of a tyrannical psycho come out. We all knew it was hidden in her. The problem with this season she went from having those flare ups to full on genocidal maniac in an episode and a half, if that. It would have been nice seeing her unhinged more before the battle.
Posted on 5/14/19 at 9:54 am to iwyLSUiwy
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t was an incredible episode. Just because a bunch idiot fans didnt get what they want they give it a bad rating. If a show doesnt go how you want it to go, that doesnt mean its a bad episode.
What I said about it in another thread:
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The episode was beautifully done and the cinematography was some of the best of the series. What it did to the story was just crap though.
Posted on 5/14/19 at 9:56 am to iwyLSUiwy
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Just because a bunch idiot fans didnt get what they want they give it a bad rating
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regurgitating
Ayyyyylmao
Posted on 5/14/19 at 9:56 am to iwyLSUiwy
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Regardless of what the RT/imdb score is, that was the best episode of the season and if you take the im going to hate no matter what blinders off, it was one of the best of the entire series.
It was great television in the same way John Wick is great.
It took a big ole shite on 7+ seasons of character development for several primaries though.
Posted on 5/14/19 at 9:56 am to 187undercover
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Dragons have unlimited fuel and never needs a water break.
I could get behind this being a "problem," but that's a "problem" in general for fantasy stuff. How much are they a biological creature and how much are they a magical creature?
I'm alright with letting the rest/recharge aspect not bother me.
However, this bit:
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I learned dragon fire can blow up concrete and stone like a bomb yet and can slice through columns of the Keep like a hit knife through butter. Yet somehow humans just burn; they should blow up.
seems like a failure to follow establish rules.
Pretty sure the walls and towers of Harrenhal were melted rather than exploded by dragon fire.
Posted on 5/14/19 at 9:58 am to Sasquatch Smash
Dragon fire can't melt stee....
Wait, nevermind.
Wait, nevermind.
Posted on 5/14/19 at 9:59 am to RollTide1987
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The writing has effectively killed this show.
While I agree I think HBO limiting the season to 6 episodes killed any chance for the nuance that made the series great.
Posted on 5/14/19 at 9:59 am to GoCrazyAuburn
I think Dany’s slip into madness was set up. People who say “it’s against her character” ignore the warning signs, all the other characters being concerned and even to thinks she is this static character.
I think Jamie’s story line was trash and Cersei just crying and getting crushed was weak.
I think Jamie’s story line was trash and Cersei just crying and getting crushed was weak.
Posted on 5/14/19 at 10:01 am to SlowFlowPro
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we're saying "they didn't develop her character enough"
They’ve developed her character plenty to see that as a betrayal. We know from the shows and the books her entire obsession regardless of what she accomplished in essos was to take down the usurper and retake the 7 kingdoms because “she is the dragon and the rightful ruler of the 7 kingdoms”
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you're saying "she's crazy and therefore anything can be molded into a crazy person's reaction. making no sense makes sense"
What I’m saying is that Jon didn’t just not follow an order. He destroyed her reality and furthermore he spread the information to others. She could at least hold on to the fact that the only person who knew she was living a lie was Jon who was (in her mind) the person who would be besides her anyways and her position remains largely the same. By dissemination of the info he has taken down her entire claim to the throne.
How can that not possibly be seen as a betrayal? It’s like if George O’Leary found out his wife was the one who told Notre Dame he falsified his academic records. Sure she may not have promised to never tell but come on
This post was edited on 5/14/19 at 10:02 am
Posted on 5/14/19 at 10:04 am to SammyTiger
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People who say “it’s against her character” ignore the warning signs, all the other characters being concerned and even to thinks she is this static character.
Her doing horrific evil things to Cersei’s army would be in character... massacring the innocents, not so much.
Posted on 5/14/19 at 10:04 am to GoCrazyAuburn
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Yep. It is the main theme of this season, everything is rushed. Yes over the course of all 8 seasons, she had definite signs of a tyrannical psycho come out. We all knew it was hidden in her. The problem with this season she went from having those flare ups to full on genocidal maniac in an episode and a half, if that. It would have been nice seeing her unhinged more before the battle.
It's not just the pacing. It's specific choices made by the writers.
Everyone's opinion on the last two episodes completely changes if they scrap Euron sniping Raeghal in episode 4 and instead have Daenerys attack Kings Landing exactly like she initially did but with Drogon and Raeghal. When Reaghal is killed during the assualt, she loses her shite exactly like she did in the episode.
Completely believable and much more realistic.
You could have even telegraphed it a bit by giving her a much stronger reaction in the "Beyond the Wall" episode when Vyserion dies.
This post was edited on 5/14/19 at 10:07 am
Posted on 5/14/19 at 10:04 am to SammyTiger
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I think Jamie’s story line was trash and Cersei just crying and getting crushed was weak
I liked Cersei's death. She watched in horror as her ego was stripped down to the core. She was always ultimately motivated by protecting her children. In the end, she even lost that
Posted on 5/14/19 at 10:04 am to fightin tigers
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Dragon fire can't melt stee....
Wait, nevermind.
Ha. That's one of the memes in the meme thread.
Posted on 5/14/19 at 10:06 am to Adam Banks
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She could at least hold on to the fact that the only person who knew she was living a lie was Jon who was (in her mind) the person who would be besides her anyways and her position remains largely the same.
He wasn't the only person who knew.
Posted on 5/14/19 at 10:07 am to RB10
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It took a big ole shite on 7+ seasons of character development for several primaries though.
I didnt see it that way at all.
If Dany would have went good girl not mad king, like most expected (i know some thought she would go mad king but they were still in the minority), then it would have gotten bashed for having a happy ending or D&D failed by making it too predictable. They surprised the majority of the viewers, I give them props for that.
I also saw Jamie's character development as a surprise instead of taking a shite on his development. Everyone had assumed he had turned the corner and was done with Cersei's b.s. but I liked that it showed his true colors. He never really changed, in the end, all that mattered was the two of them, just like they had been saying for years now and it held true.
What other primaries do you think it shite on? Im not defending it just to defend it. I've been critical, but I thought the way both of those turned out was pretty good, despite it being completely opposite of what I wanted.
I wanted Dany to actually be a truly good person. She had the chance obviously, but she showed her true colors like we always knew was possible. I wanted Jamie to kill Cersei but he showed his true colors as well, opposite of what most were expecting. .
Posted on 5/14/19 at 10:09 am to Green Chili Tiger
That episode was wildly entertaining. Loved it, don't know what people want differently at this point. After season 7 and hearing this season would only be 6 episodes, I fully expected to sacrifice some of the early season greatness for the thrill of a wild conclusion.
Still Tyrion and Jaime's final conversation, Clegane Bowl, Jon and Tyrion's horror at Dany/Unsullied destruction and Dany going mad as the bells ring..Just a ton of intense/meaningful action. I'm glad I don't see things the same way as some of you.
Still Tyrion and Jaime's final conversation, Clegane Bowl, Jon and Tyrion's horror at Dany/Unsullied destruction and Dany going mad as the bells ring..Just a ton of intense/meaningful action. I'm glad I don't see things the same way as some of you.
Posted on 5/14/19 at 10:09 am to RB10
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He wasn't the only person who knew.
At that point there were 3 people and I’m pretty sure he told her that Sam and bran wouldn’t spread it. Regardless you are ignoring that the person she regarded as the closest to her essentially committed treason. The last person to tell a couple people that the king wasn’t the rightful heir was ned stark.
This post was edited on 5/14/19 at 10:10 am
Posted on 5/14/19 at 10:10 am to Tigeralum2008
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I think HBO limiting the season to 6 episodes killed any chance for the nuance that made the series great.
That wasn’t HBO’s call
This post was edited on 5/14/19 at 10:11 am
Posted on 5/14/19 at 10:11 am to Minden tiger
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Still Tyrion and Jaime's final conversation, Clegane Bowl, Jon and Tyrion's horror at Dany/Unsullied destruction and Dany going mad as the bells ring..Just a ton of intense/meaningful action. I'm glad I don't see things the same way as some of you.
There was plenty of fun action, etc.
I did literally laugh out loud at the fricking HORSE standing there for Arya
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