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re: What is Kelly hiding?

Posted by Adam Banks on 11/11/25 at 10:07 pm to
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I’m not cheering anyone on here. But if you sign a contract, honor it.



Going on vacation when we play a top 15 team the following Saturday isnt honoring the contract.


One of the reasons for cause listed in his contract 11.a.1.e is failure to perform his duties to the best of his ability. Taking a vacation during a 14 week season would not be performing his duties to the best of his ability.

Other places in the contract have references to performance of duties at a comparable P5 or SEC school. So it would be reasonable to compare him to previous LSU coaches as well as upper tier SEC schools. I doubt many SEC Head Coaches are going to the beach on the bye week with a top 15 school next on the schedule.

Theres some other clauses that they may could use as well but I dont think that it helps anyone to go down that road so I wont go there.

It may be tough to prove in court but LSU should keep their options open.

re: What is Kelly hiding?

Posted by Adam Banks on 11/11/25 at 8:46 pm to
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They held a press conference and announce he was relieved of his duties immediate. I don’t know how any reasonable person could consider that anything less than termination. But maybe there is legal technicality that LSU can exploit though it would be incredibly shitty to do so and would be a giant red flag for any potential coaching candidate (in any sport)



Y’all sure want to be a stickler about what constitutes cause and behavior detrimental to LSU but don’t want to be sticklers about how the contract determines termination.



Kelly is trying to bend LSU over a barrel and y’all are cheering him on.


re: What is Kelly hiding?

Posted by Adam Banks on 11/11/25 at 8:10 pm to
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I cant image Kelly ever steps foot in Baton Rouge or on LSU campus again.


If I’m LSU and i end up having to pay the buyout I make sure that it’s over the length of the contract and that no direct deposit allowed. He has to show up to the bursars office every month to get his check and that the check is voided if not deposited within 1 week of being written :lol:


I mean it would obviously be pretty easy for him to do so but just to make it as inconvenient as possible would be just a little bit satisfying

re: What is Kelly hiding?

Posted by Adam Banks on 11/11/25 at 8:02 pm to
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Brian Kelly is alleging that LSU is saying they didn’t officially terminate him. There is a difference. You are using a lawsuit as a statement of fact, and you are accepting the words they are putting in LSU’s mouth.




I think that it’s safe LSU would publically say that they officially terminated him without cause rather than go through this PR nightmare if that’s what they had done :lol:

re: What is Kelly hiding?

Posted by Adam Banks on 11/11/25 at 7:49 pm to
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LSU's "no written notice, so no termination" schtick ignores the elephant stomping through the room: the October 27 press conference where Woodward declared Kelly "no longer the head coach," the immediate lockout from his office and facilities (as detailed in the petition), and the board's rubber-stamp silence while they lowballed him $25M/$30M under without-cause terms. Not a whisper of "for cause" until Kelly lawyered up and called their bluff—now it's retroactive whataboutism on recruiting gripes they knew about for years?



Well I consider offering $25/30 when you have cause that could reduce it to zero generous but what do I know.


LSU announced his pending termination with negotiation of severance ongoing.


It would not be the first time a company paid a reduced buyout in lieu of pr nightmare litigation.

LSU alleges that they didn’t officially terminate him (which would keep their options open) which would not be surprising given they were trying to give a generous offer to avoid costly litigation both expense wise and PR wise. If they have cause why would they give up that option and start the clock do so when negotiations for a quiet parting are ongoing?

re: Brian Kelly Files Suit Against LSU

Posted by Adam Banks on 11/11/25 at 7:28 pm to
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I am old school. A man pays his obligations. LSU looking like bitches.



I’m old school as well. You don’t work you don’t eat. Not get $54 million.


You do a bad enough job to get fired then you didn’t keep your nose to the grindstone enough.

Being lazy doesn’t deserve $54 million

re: What is Kelly hiding?

Posted by Adam Banks on 11/11/25 at 7:24 pm to
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Why would he do that when he has Tate and Woodward who will testify on his behalf?


One of those people was in New Jersey at the point Kelly was terminated and the other LSU alleges fired Kelly improperly so I don’t know if those are the witnesses you are looking for

re: Get em BK!

Posted by Adam Banks on 11/11/25 at 6:42 pm to
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What they are doing is unprecedented and amounts to pure theft



Based on the reports of his work habits I’m sure LSU feels like BK has already engaged in pure theft.

re: What is Kelly hiding?

Posted by Adam Banks on 11/11/25 at 6:40 pm to
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And maybe what you say true from a purely legal sense, but is that worth the PR nightmare that will come from it?


Hence Kelly’s suit.


He’s playing chicken.


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You think any cos h worth his salt is going to come here knowing that’s how the school and state do business?



IF they have cause and get out of it if I’m LSU I broadcast publicly that I’m giving the $20million that was generously set aside for BK out of goodwill is going to the new coach as a signing bonus


I think you can get a worthy coach with that bonus.


It’s all a game of poker at this point. Kelly crossed the rubicon and called LSU with his suit. We will see what LSU has at this point

re: What is Kelly hiding?

Posted by Adam Banks on 11/11/25 at 6:36 pm to
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I just want to learn about the psychology of people who say things like you are here. Do you actually believe anybody is fooled or impressed by these maneuvers? Do you think it makes you smarter than everyone else? What do you get out of this charade emotionally, especially when it's not even your money at stake? I get why LSU is doing what it's doing. What it's doing is extremely scummy and obviously shady, but $54 million is $54 million




I’m just discussing the situation.

Any other field poor performance can get you fired without $54 million.

Sure call it jealousy but I think getting immediately paid $30 million to not coach football is above and beyond generous so I’m not going to shed a tear if LSU tries to see it through

re: What is Kelly hiding?

Posted by Adam Banks on 11/11/25 at 6:32 pm to
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But that paper trail has absolutely nothing to do with the “7 day timer” you do confidently referenced in your OP. ETA: Again, back-dating the clock on that 7-day cure period would actually be very bad for Kelly because it would mean he had not addressed whatever issue led to the firing.


It was poorly worded.


He is trying to backdate the firing to his meeting with Woodward to prove he wasn’t given a 7 day cure

re: What is Kelly hiding?

Posted by Adam Banks on 11/11/25 at 6:30 pm to
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LSU maintains that they have not issued the written termination. Where has LSU said this?



That is literally the entire purpose of this suit.

Kelly wants a judge to rule that he has been terminated weeks ago and that since he was terminated and not notified for cause LSU didn’t give him a 7day cure period.

re: What is Kelly hiding?

Posted by Adam Banks on 11/11/25 at 5:56 pm to
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STOP. It is so painfully obvious you have no idea what you are talking about. The 7 day clock is the period set forth in the contract for the employer (LSU) to give the employee (Kelly) time to address a potential fireable issue.


No shite.


LSU maintains that they have not issued the written termination.


That is the entire argument.


Hence Kelly trying to start a paper trail.

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It announced to everyone that it did.


The contract says written notice.

If LSU had emailed this I guarantee some media would have found it in FOIA requests

re: What is Kelly hiding?

Posted by Adam Banks on 11/11/25 at 5:37 pm to
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. The other clauses reference 7 days from the notice. The clock starts on the notice, not BKs email.



He was sending the email to have a paper trail.

LSU has not issued the notice. Kelly sent the email to have a paper trail of him having been verbally terminated by Woodward in attempts to start the 7 day clock.

re: What is Kelly hiding?

Posted by Adam Banks on 11/11/25 at 5:30 pm to
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Good luck with that when your AD releases a statement saying they have let him go, with the boards blessing and then the Board held a press conference to discuss it.



The tweet announced a leadership change for LSU football.

I’m not sure if Scott’s wording but I would venture it is something similar.

He may have been “released of his duties as LSUs football coach” but still an lsu employee

re: What is Kelly hiding?

Posted by Adam Banks on 11/11/25 at 5:29 pm to
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It would be the most Louisiana thing ever for Woodward to “fire” Kelly only for him not to be officially fired until 2+ weeks later.


It actually makes sense as you would not want to lose any negotiating chips while negotiating a large buyout like that.

Hence Kelly’s maneuvers.

He knows that there may be something. Litigating it in the long term would be costly. He’s trying to keep it under wraps AND win the negotiations in one fell swoop

re: What is Kelly hiding?

Posted by Adam Banks on 11/11/25 at 5:15 pm to
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The 7 day window starts “IF” he was fired for cause, not just if he was fired. Thats where your entire theory collapses


And LSU maintains he has not been formally fired yet so cause is on the table.

He is trying to backdate the official termination date so that LSU doesn’t have the negotiation chip of a “cause” firing

re: What is Kelly hiding?

Posted by Adam Banks on 11/11/25 at 3:24 pm to
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The contract calls for a firing with cause to be given to Kelly and then he would have 7 days to cure it. Nothing he did would affect that. It was LSU's responsibility to notify him of cause.


His email day 1 was to have a paper trail for timing.

He wanted the clock to start


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And, if they were firing him for cause, there would be no negotiations as the buyout would be null and void.



Just because they CAN fire him for cause may not be the best for both parties. LSU doesn’t want its dirty laundry in public either and doesn’t want the long litigation that would follow with bad PR hits.


Kelly knows this hence him trying to start the clock with an email saying he had been informed of being fired and wanted to start negotiations all the while just waiting for the 7 day window to end.