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re: Game of Thrones S8E5 "The Bells" is officially the worst reviewed GOT episode yet
Posted on 5/14/19 at 9:12 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 5/14/19 at 9:12 am to SlowFlowPro
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aka forced conflict
Um, yeah it is a show. They wanted her to get to mad queen status and those were the mechanisms.
She is a damn inbred Targaryen.
Like being surprised when a pitbull eats a baby.
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 9:13 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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She’s his queen. She told him what to do, he did something against her wishes. Again I ask, is that not betrayal?
For the 3rd time, no. Not getting her way is not betrayal. That's simple disobedience, but even then, he flat out told her he wasn't going to do what she asked.
It would have been betrayal had he sworn himself to secrecy. He didn't though. He told her he was telling them the truth, reassured her nothing would change and then did exactly what he said he was going to do.
This post was edited on 5/14/19 at 9:14 am
Posted on 5/14/19 at 9:15 am to RB10
I think you are splitting hairs to get to the outcome you want.
She obviously saw it as betrayal.
She obviously saw it as betrayal.
Posted on 5/14/19 at 9:16 am to RB10
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It would have been betrayal had he sworn himself to secrecy. He didn't though. He told her he was telling them the truth, reassured her nothing would change and then did exactly what he said he was going to do.
exactly
Posted on 5/14/19 at 9:17 am to fightin tigers
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I think you are splitting hairs to get to the outcome you want.
-outcome
+process
Showdors are Les Miles
Critical Master Race are Nick Saban
Posted on 5/14/19 at 9:18 am to SlowFlowPro
There is no way I would continue to watch this show if I thought it was as bad as you make it out to be.
Some critical master race.
Some critical master race.
Posted on 5/14/19 at 9:21 am to Brettesaurus Rex
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Lol gtfo. People are miserable
Miserable watching a beloved show devolve into schlock, maybe.
Posted on 5/14/19 at 9:21 am to fightin tigers
1 episode left, bubba
Posted on 5/14/19 at 9:22 am to fightin tigers
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I think you are splitting hairs to get to the outcome you want.
I'm not splitting hairs at all. Feeling betrayed and actually being betrayed are very different things.
She felt betrayed by Jon. She was actually betrayed by Varys.
quote:
She obviously saw it as betrayal.
No
One
Is
Arguing
This
This post was edited on 5/14/19 at 9:23 am
Posted on 5/14/19 at 9:22 am to SlowFlowPro
It'll be a doozy for sure
Posted on 5/14/19 at 9:28 am to RB10
quote:
No
One
Is
Arguing
This
So what is the problem? Go with it.
Posted on 5/14/19 at 9:30 am to fightin tigers
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She obviously saw it as betrayal.
Like one of those women that see watching porn as cheating on them.
Posted on 5/14/19 at 9:34 am to Green Chili Tiger
It is a show that employed porn actresses and was loose on plot lines the entire time. Not surprised when you have to make a jump to believe what is happening.
Great show, but I don't know why the last season or two is seen as some big break. Only complaint is how fast the plot moves now, but that is trying to appease fans who want every plot line wrapped up.
Also the lack of ravens now being used.
Great show, but I don't know why the last season or two is seen as some big break. Only complaint is how fast the plot moves now, but that is trying to appease fans who want every plot line wrapped up.
Also the lack of ravens now being used.
This post was edited on 5/14/19 at 9:36 am
Posted on 5/14/19 at 9:36 am to Sasquatch Smash
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Now, at the end, all of a sudden it matters.
Or, sometimes seeing a palace crumbling around you can sober your perspective. Those of you complaining about forced conflict here are being a bit silly. Arya had a mission from the end of season one, right after the FORCED CONFLICT of executing Ned. Seeing and understanding that cersei was dead anyway can realistically cause a change of mind. They didn't know or expect Dany would destroy the whole city.
Not going to defend mad Dany. They dropped hints over two seasons, but they didn't develop it enough for this extreme turn to work well
Posted on 5/14/19 at 9:38 am to Jay Are
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Arya had a mission from the end of season one, right after the FORCED CONFLICT of executing Ned.
Starks v. Lannisters was set up from episode 1 and Ned v. Cersei was involved in like 3-4 episodes
Posted on 5/14/19 at 9:39 am to Jay Are
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Not going to defend mad Dany. They dropped hints over two seasons, but they didn't develop it enough for this extreme turn to work well
They dropped them a lot longer, but it did feel like a switch.
Although supposedly that is how the mad king went too.
Posted on 5/14/19 at 9:40 am to Jay Are
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Not going to defend mad Dany. They dropped hints over two seasons, but they didn't develop it enough for this extreme turn to work well
This is my only real complaint about how it's unfolding. Yes, the signs were there. Yes, many of us thought this could possibly be the ultimate outcome.
She went from slightly angry/emotional queen to full blown Hitler in less than 2 full episodes though.
Posted on 5/14/19 at 9:43 am to RB10
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She went from slightly angry/emotional queen to full blown Hitler in less than 2 full episodes though.
yeah they didn't really start her descent until episode 4, really. by the end of 5? Hitler
that's why the people pushing the "didn't end how you wanted" meme completely miss the mark. it's not about the outcome. Dany going Mad Queen is whatever, it's fine. but how we got there? totally shitty
kind of makes you realize just how terrible episodes 1 and 2 are. 1 fricking third of this season wasted on setting up the emotional impact of a pointless plot line (NK), then using 1 full episode to finish that pointless plot line, leaving two episodes to fully develop the Mad Queen
This post was edited on 5/14/19 at 9:44 am
Posted on 5/14/19 at 9:43 am to RollTide1987
Chernobyl makes this show feel like family matters in comparison.
Last Episode was fun and watching Drogon fry everything was fun, but ends there. I also thought the episode was the best of the season so far.
I learned dragon fire can blow up concrete and stone like a bomb and can slice through columns of the Keep like a hot knife through butter. Yet somehow humans just burn; they should blow up. Dragons have unlimited fuel and never needs a water break.
Last Episode was fun and watching Drogon fry everything was fun, but ends there. I also thought the episode was the best of the season so far.
I learned dragon fire can blow up concrete and stone like a bomb and can slice through columns of the Keep like a hot knife through butter. Yet somehow humans just burn; they should blow up. Dragons have unlimited fuel and never needs a water break.
This post was edited on 5/14/19 at 10:01 am
Posted on 5/14/19 at 9:49 am to Jay Are
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Or, sometimes seeing a palace crumbling around you can sober your perspective.
quote:
Seeing and understanding that cersei was dead anyway can realistically cause a change of mind.
I won't argue with you there. But given the other things I brought up in that post, her being there at that moment was forced in order to give us a familiar character to run around in the destruction. They literally said that's how they used Arya in the bit after the episode.
I have no problem with the Mad Dany switch. It was one of the few things done well (enough) in the episode.
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