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re: Has Smoke Laval been invited to campus since his firing?

Posted on 6/25/25 at 12:24 pm to
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
17896 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 12:24 pm to
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Not impossible at all. Smoke was fully capable but he treated the LSU job like it was a reward for a long successful career. You can’t succeed at the level LSU expects if you aren’t a killer.


Knucklehead still holds a grudge for LSU firing Smoke. So does Sammy's.
Posted by LSUsmartass
Scompton
Member since Sep 2004
82714 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 12:27 pm to
I will say, nobody had a better look to be head ball coach at LSU than Smoke. It's almost like he had a genetic code for it
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
75936 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 12:28 pm to
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Got slapped with injuries, but what is your point? Big Ben was 78-70 with a 3.91...is he not an all-time great at LSU?


I don't think you got the point of my post.
Posted by LSUsmartass
Scompton
Member since Sep 2004
82714 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 12:32 pm to
Hmm, may I didn't lol
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
69576 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 12:33 pm to
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I believe I heard that baseball camp is 100% how Smoke got the job.


maybe so. Skip was pretty much doing other things and smoke was our instructor for the most part.
Posted by Clark W Griswold
THE USA
Member since Sep 2012
10884 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 12:40 pm to
I had lunch with him at Canes back in 2001 during the season. We were the only ones in there and we started talking in line. The guy knew baseball he just couldn’t lead a program and I almost got the feeling he didn’t want to. He kept recruiting great talent and taking teams to Omaha proved that. But the last couple years defined his failure when the ability to just have the best kids show up left when Skip was gone. Turtle brought kids for sure but Smoke wasn’t the guy kids from all over wanted to play for.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
82093 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 12:41 pm to
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Have seen this mentioned a few times. What did he do exactly?

Tried to turn lsu in to the ncaa about the funds for the camp money and where it was going.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
75936 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 12:42 pm to
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Turtle brought kids for sure but Smoke wasn’t the guy kids from all over wanted to play for.


Turtle shot too high on guys a lot. He had a class at Arizona State with like 6 top 15 picks. Eric Hosmer was in it I think.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
107580 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 12:58 pm to
Wow.
Posted by Jim Hopper
Ocean Springs Mississippi
Member since Sep 2019
4441 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 1:10 pm to
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Fun fact, there is (or was) a poster on this site that was a pitcher whose childhood dream was to pitch at LSU. He was invited to visit LSU during Smoke's tenure but apparently Smoke was unaware. This pitcher walks into Smoke's office to introduce himself and Smoke tells him to get the frick out of his office. This pitcher went on to start in MLB and won a world series... probably would have been a top 5 all-time pitcher at LSU.
pretty sure this same guy also broke the Jay Johnson news accepting the HC opening or at least saying he was major candidate weeks before it happened while the Sully & Bianco news was going on.
This post was edited on 6/25/25 at 1:12 pm
Posted by Hetfield
Dallas
Member since Jun 2013
9283 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 1:17 pm to
I had a good friend from high school who was a pitcher for that school in Monroe under Smoke in the mid 90’s & he absolutely hated Smoke’s guts.
Posted by BilltheTiger
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2013
1100 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 1:46 pm to
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Smoke had a pretty impossible task of following Bertman.

You are correct, no way he could continue winning championships at the rate Skip did. But to say it was impossible to match Skip's success belies the question.Remind me, how many did he win in his five year tenure. Extra point question: How many games did he win in his two trips to the College World Series. Hint: 0,0.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
162157 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 2:14 pm to
I think it was also skirting housing allowance rules too

Regardless it’s a real bitch move to bend the rules as a coach but tattle tale on your way for something you were a willing participant in
This post was edited on 6/25/25 at 2:29 pm
Posted by The Eric
Member since Sep 2008
24172 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 2:16 pm to
Technically he resigned
Posted by BatonrougeCajun
Somewhere in Texas
Member since Feb 2008
7487 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 2:16 pm to
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Turtle brought kids for sure but Smoke wasn’t the guy kids from all over wanted to play for.


It probably didn’t help those teams that Smoke and Turtle despised each other

Turtle could always get guys. By 2007 he was at Arizona state and we (the Cajuns) went to play them in a 3 game set. Every player on that roster eventually played some kind of pro baseball with like 6 big leaguers.

The funniest part of that deal was former Tiger Jared Bogany followed Turtle to Arizona state but Pat Murphy didn’t like him and he would start him every game in left field and pulled him before his first at bat. If you can find the baseball stats from Arizona state 2007 check out how many starts Bogany got vs how many at bats he had
This post was edited on 6/25/25 at 2:26 pm
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
79044 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 2:19 pm to
Looking back, it was just a really bad hire resume wise. Smoke won 60% of his games in the southland and made the tournament 3 times in 7 years. There’d be a riot if we hired that resume today.

He had some pretty damn talented teams at LSU and didn’t do terrible. But it fell off fast and was going to be really, really bad. Skip saved the program by firing him quickly.
Posted by Pas Bon
Galveston County, TX
Member since Sep 2003
1930 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 2:22 pm to
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since his firing?


To be fair, he resigned, but he was definitely feeling pressure after a couple 0-fer's in the CWS a couple seasons prior and failing to make a regional for the first time in almost 20 years during his final season in 2006.

Posted by geauxpurple
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2014
16661 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 3:04 pm to
He is welcome here. He is not persona non grata. I think he chooses not to come because he is pissed that he got fired.

I think he was in over his head. I heard him give a bunch of speeches while he was here. At the beginning he was funny, eloquent and witty. Towards the end he looked like he was in a fog.
Posted by TigerBR1111
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2014
8293 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 3:08 pm to
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What happened?


Yeah, no shite. That’s a hell of a thing to just throw out. It can mean a lot of things.
Posted by Coater
Madison, MS
Member since Jun 2005
33522 posts
Posted on 6/26/25 at 8:28 pm to
B Mac? Loved that guy
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