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re: Shough’s pro comp
Posted by BilJ on 4/28/25 at 4:29 pm
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The Carr signing was always a fair signing. It was and still is.
The signing never made sense for our roster…this is not hindsight, so continuing to say “well compared to the market it was fair” and ignore situation entirely.
Adding a career mediocre QB to an aging roster with limited cap space was stupid. The injuries have made the signing look worse but it was a bad signing to begin with. You can use the injury excuse as to why we didn’t meet the most modest of expectations, but the signing will always be an L for this FO
re: In game NFLdraft fantasy thoughts.
Posted by BilJ on 4/27/25 at 9:04 am
You talking dynasty or seasonal?
Either way, jeanty is still the answer. The raiders offense should at least be serviceable this year with Geno and outside of bowers the receiving options aren’t great so should be plenty of opportunities for him to catch a ton of balls. No vet worth a shite standing in his way to make him earn his touches either
I think there’s more of a debate between Henderson and Hampton for the #2 spot behind jeanty than there is for him challenging jeanty for #1
Either way, jeanty is still the answer. The raiders offense should at least be serviceable this year with Geno and outside of bowers the receiving options aren’t great so should be plenty of opportunities for him to catch a ton of balls. No vet worth a shite standing in his way to make him earn his touches either
I think there’s more of a debate between Henderson and Hampton for the #2 spot behind jeanty than there is for him challenging jeanty for #1
re: Updated depth chart
Posted by BilJ on 4/26/25 at 9:59 pm
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Have to hand it to Mickey and Jeff, in a lot of ways this was the perfect draft. Of course much depends on Shough, but you raised the floor at literally every position (except WR).
I mean when you have holes at every position, if you don’t leave a draft improving depth that’s a problem. Mickey and Jeff should answer why the roster is so bad going into the draft
re: Saints pick OU LB Danny Stutsman
Posted by BilJ on 4/26/25 at 11:45 am
Can we play a game of how many white LB cliches are in his draft write ups ?
re: Shough has to start and be good next year to justify this pick, right?
Posted by BilJ on 4/26/25 at 11:12 am
You really haven’t made a point because you haven’t proven he’s significantly elevated the play of any of the QBs you mentioned
re: Shough has to start and be good next year to justify this pick, right?
Posted by BilJ on 4/26/25 at 11:06 am
I would have preferred Milroe if we’re talking long shots to develop. He has better odds of getting on the field for you in some capacity even if he’s an absolute disaster passing.
re: Shough has to start and be good next year to justify this pick, right?
Posted by BilJ on 4/26/25 at 11:04 am
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Brees was already developed.
But you gave Moore credit for guys he had wayyyyyy less to do with their development than SP vaulting Brees into HOF level play. You don’t see the problem with that ?
Moore hasn’t proven he’s capable of doing it yet, especially as the head man, so putting more trust in him over a guy that has actually done it at multiple stops is bold. It’s ok to believe he can be better but your reasoning seems pretty flawed
re: Shough has to start and be good next year to justify this pick, right?
Posted by BilJ on 4/26/25 at 9:21 am
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Every QB the saints drafted never amounted to anything.
Also sick of this one, name me someone with a great track record of QBs drafted 3rd round or later ?
re: Shough has to start and be good next year to justify this pick, right?
Posted by BilJ on 4/26/25 at 9:04 am
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Moore was a high level college QB this century. He was in the NFL less than a decade ago. He has been involved with either developing or taking to the next level 3 very good young QBs recently.
Payton is an elite offensive mind and an actual great HC. But he’s developed 1 QB: Bo Nix
Ok so let me get this straight, you have one guy that has developed two but you trust a guy that hasn’t done it once yet…more?
You’re going to credit him for guys he had no real hand in drafting or developing but none for Payton and taking Brees to HOF level play?
Thats interesting logic
re: Shough has to start and be good next year to justify this pick, right?
Posted by BilJ on 4/26/25 at 8:37 am
Well we never spent significant capital on one in his tenure. his lone first rd pick so far has good early returns, even though it mostly got shite on.
Also has an UDFA hit in Romo.
That’s more than many can say
Also has an UDFA hit in Romo.
That’s more than many can say
re: Shough has to start and be good next year to justify this pick, right?
Posted by BilJ on 4/26/25 at 8:35 am
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actually probably trust Moore with QBs than Payton
Gonna need you to expand on that.
re: Shough has to start and be good next year to justify this pick, right?
Posted by BilJ on 4/26/25 at 8:33 am
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What would you have done with the pick?
Pick a position, we could use help all over but personally I would have gone with one of the edge guys
re: Shough has to start and be good next year to justify this pick, right?
Posted by BilJ on 4/26/25 at 8:26 am
In the late Brees era, maybe you could sell this pick as future development and expensive insurance for a guy that’s had a run of injuries. Plus we had Payton, so I’d trust his qb eye a little more, Kellen doesn’t have the skins on the wall to blindly “trust the process” (really any skins on the wall in that dept)
For this team’s current state, it doesn’t really make sense to use that pick on a dart throw vs. getting a starter to fill one of many holes. Even if he becomes a serviceable back up, he’s probably done little on the field for you.
For this team’s current state, it doesn’t really make sense to use that pick on a dart throw vs. getting a starter to fill one of many holes. Even if he becomes a serviceable back up, he’s probably done little on the field for you.
re: Shough has to start and be good next year to justify this pick, right?
Posted by BilJ on 4/26/25 at 8:10 am
Oh my apologies bunch…the pick still sucks
re: Shough has to start and be good next year to justify this pick, right?
Posted by BilJ on 4/26/25 at 7:53 am
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The actual truth is we really don’t know. T
While true, the data shows this was likely a wasted pick.
I would have preferred us to do what the Browns did…ignore this QB class and fill holes.
I genuinely hope I’m wrong, we drafted an outlier, and he balls for us….but he’ll likely end up as the bridge qb we hopefully take in the top 3 next year
re: Shough has to start and be good next year to justify this pick, right?
Posted by BilJ on 4/25/25 at 10:13 pm
Very odd you think a guy that has 24 starts under his belt and only 1 full season as a starter is well seasoned. Is that because as usual you have no idea what you’re talking about ?
Why when pressed can you never defend any of the bullshite you spew?
Why when pressed can you never defend any of the bullshite you spew?
re: Proof Tyler wouldn’t have been there for us
Posted by BilJ on 4/25/25 at 9:53 pm
I don’t think this proves it was a good pick
Anyway, Milroe gets on the field even if he’s a terrible qb. If Slough busts, he’s off the roster in 2 years
Anyway, Milroe gets on the field even if he’s a terrible qb. If Slough busts, he’s off the roster in 2 years
re: Shough has to start and be good next year to justify this pick, right?
Posted by BilJ on 4/25/25 at 9:46 pm
shite you’re right
re: Shough has to start and be good next year to justify this pick, right?
Posted by BilJ on 4/25/25 at 9:09 pm
:lol: still can’t defend any of his stances, just throws something completely irrelevant out there
Remember when you thought taysom hill was going to be the long term answer at qb? Seriously, has your fat arse ever been right about anything Chad?
Remember when you thought taysom hill was going to be the long term answer at qb? Seriously, has your fat arse ever been right about anything Chad?
re: Shough has to start and be good next year to justify this pick, right?
Posted by BilJ on 4/25/25 at 8:51 pm
No you’re just an idiot that doesn’t know what he’s talking about and when pressed you scurry off.
“Durrrr he’s experienced and seasoned” well no he’s just old ya fricking idiot. If you bothered to look anything before flapping your fat arse mouth you’d know that
“Durrrr saints are the most injury plagued team over the last 5 years” well actually no they aren’t and the stats say otherwise
“Durrrr this roster is good” ok Chad name some guys on this roster considered top 5 on this roster.
You’re an idiot chad
“Durrrr he’s experienced and seasoned” well no he’s just old ya fricking idiot. If you bothered to look anything before flapping your fat arse mouth you’d know that
“Durrrr saints are the most injury plagued team over the last 5 years” well actually no they aren’t and the stats say otherwise
“Durrrr this roster is good” ok Chad name some guys on this roster considered top 5 on this roster.
You’re an idiot chad
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