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bfniii
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re: question for libs about policy
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Nowhere that I can tell. The typical newcomer response is just “this board sucks nobody wants to discuss anything” while they actively don’t discuss anything. If you just came here for an end zone dance, fine, but it’s an odd position from which to launch the “I’m above this forum” schtick.

And yeah, there is some fringe here. I just don’t discuss the fringe stuff with them; it’s not difficult. And there are straight-up trolls, I just don’t discuss anything with them. Again, not hard. I actually do wish there was more policy discussion but I can’t make that happen. If there’s a forum where intelligent liberals discuss policy and and allow dissent I haven’t seen it. And while this board does lean right, it doesn’t appear to be because liberals are silenced
holy cow. Perhaps the most honest post i have ever seen on the pb.

I have a problem with libs itt saying that our attitude is preventing honest discussion yet libs are taking the time to flame up and gloat in every thread

I also have a problem with libs saying this board is all echo chamber and trump cult when they're running around freely spamming up the place, not talking about policy, offering nothing other than omb. Then somehow it's the right who has an attitude problem.


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SammyTiger
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If you pay taxes you will be paying for others healthcare under a universal healthcare plan regardless of income level.


Most people will only be paying enough to cover themselves. Richer people, who can afford more, will be covering their own costs and others. If I’m paying taxes and percentage of what I pay into a universal healthcare plans pays for someone else’s healthcare, I’m ok with that.


bfniii
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Student debt forgiveness
I personally Want universal healthcare
next question for the left. How are these things going to be paid for? Yes I know the obligatory initial response - tax the wealthy. If you've looked at the numbers, you know that revenue stream will only last a short time. Yes, some people will get these goodies for a short time. Then what? That resource is gone, probably forever.

How do you feel about the ipab? Please don't say that you think there won't be rationing.

Why is Sweden moving from a single payer option to a privatized model? Have you seen the testimonials from British doctors about the trials and travails of the n.i.h? Why are people from other countries traveling here merely because they have to wait for 9 months for a routine radiology scan or procedure?


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bfniii
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Our current system is 1. Expensive 2. Not that great, and 3. Doesn’t cover everyone
I don't know of anyone who thinks the current system doesn't need overhaul. However running to single payer is a horrible option.

One of the biggest problems currently is the malpractice insurance physicians have to keep because of medical litigation and trial lawyers. Not sure how to fix that.


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bfniii
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The costs are currently hidden from us. Most people don’t know what their employees pays per person
every job I've ever worked, that info is readily available. Those costs are not hidden. Single payer, you bet they will be

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my employer and I pay for my health insurance. So it’s not like I’m Not paying for it currently
but you are largely paying for yours alone, not anyone else who isn't a dependent

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I think We do have a responsibility to at least keep our fellow man alive
not a responsibility but a choice, sure. And govt running that is a terrible idea

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Like or not Healtth people pay for unhealthy people
hold on - no one has to do this. You can stuff cash in your mattress if you wanted to. Govt mandated single payer? You can kiss your freedom goodbye


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bfniii
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We spend more than every single payer country on earth
and every single payer system on earth is either crap, broke or on the verge of collapse. So there's that


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bfniii
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It’s easy to say Gates deserves less money because he wouldn’t miss a billion and it’s easy to have sympathy for the poor
plus libs never acknowledge the slippery slope. Why $400k? Who decided that? Is it subject to change once tax revenue starts to dwindle and the number continues to slide downward?


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Nguyener
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Most people will only be paying enough to cover themselves. Richer people, who can afford more, will be covering their own costs and others. If I’m paying taxes and percentage of what I pay into a universal healthcare plans pays for someone else’s healthcare, I’m ok with that.


What is universal healthcare? You mean free unlimited whatever you want? One doctor visit a year? An allowance per year? Only specific things covered? Would the government control the doctors and the insurance?


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bfniii
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If I’m paying taxes and percentage of what I pay into a universal healthcare plans pays for someone else’s healthcare, I’m ok with that.
but why does that have to be govt mandated? Iow, why can't that simply be a function of charity instead of federal tax? Also, you're willing to have your taxes go up to pay habitual offenders? You can call me callous but, I'm not ok with that. That's just enabling


bfniii
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well, we got one policy out of our lefty friends - tax the wealthy for free stuff. sadly, none of them explained how that would make america better


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bfniii
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Member since Nov 2005
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are there even any libs still around? i'm trying to find out what policies i can look forward in joe biden's america. i have a feeling he's going to make some real progress for a change


bfniii
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we still have libs flaming up threads but, no policy talk

at this point, they're not even hiding it. they just wanted trump to lose. they don't really care about biden's crimes or his policies.


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BoomBamBop
Member since Nov 2020
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re: question for libs about policy
The ONE Joe Biden policy I can absolutely say I support is student loan forgiveness.

The rest is pure OMB just look around


93and99
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Member since Dec 2018
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re: question for libs about policy
He's not going to answer you.

He has a job that doesn't have good health insurance or doesn't have it at all.

He apparently isn't capable of finding a job with good health insurance.

He feels entitled and thinks other people should help pay for his shite.

He probably came from a broken home and was never taught personal responsibility.


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93and99
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The ONE Joe Biden policy I can absolutely say I support is student loan forgiveness.





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bfniii
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The ONE Joe Biden policy I can absolutely say I support is student loan forgiveness
why? how does that make america better? how does that get paid for?


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dsides
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it would make liberals looks super stupid and they’re not stupid. They’re super smart.




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dsides
Member since Jan 2013
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The ONE Joe Biden policy I can absolutely say I support is student loan forgiveness


So how much do you owe?


bfniii
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this thread is hilarious. the libs are all over this place, trying to make fun of the right for losing the election, but they are allergic as hell to this thread about policy


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Napoleon
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with someone who is on the other end of the political spectrum. all they have are stereotypes and insults.


Pot meet kettle. Have you even seen this board.

EVERY SINGLE LEFT LEANING THREAD IS ANCHORED! One sided moderation and every single person in the other side is attacked, yet it's the libs who only have insults? I don't even think you believe that.


If you wanted intelligent replies you ruined it with the last part of your OP.
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let's see if you have anything more than just RRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE ORANGE MAN HURT MY LITTLE FEELINGS



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