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pelicanpride
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re: question for libs about policy
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I pay over 50% of my paycheck to taxes every year


Dude...your accountant is stealing from you.


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Dude...your accountant is stealing from you.



Aren’t you the one who was arguing in another thread that wealthy don’t deserve all their money, generational wealth shouldn’t exist, more taxes on investment income, etc....


pelicanpride
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Aren’t you the one who was arguing in another thread that wealthy don’t deserve all their money, generational wealth shouldn’t exist, more taxes on investment income, etc...


I don’t believe any single person deserves to own 10s of billions of dollars. You can believe that’s totally fine, and I would never say you’re wrong for that. Different people have different values. One is not wrong or right. It’s just a different way of viewing the world. It just rubs me the wrong way that someone who owns $100 billion like Bill Gates decides to give some of it away, and we are supposed to congratulate him for that, like he is some benevolent benefactor and we all just sit here and wait for him to bestow gifts as he sees fit. I find that morally offensive. And it eats at me that so much of it is sent outside of the US, where he made his fortune. If he had been taxed at the 1950s tax rate while he was amassing his wealth, he would still be a billionaire, but American voters would’ve had some input into where that money went.
I also said that I thought our long-term capital gains should be phased out at higher income levels. I never said anything about inner generational wealth. You made that one up.


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Dude...your accountant is stealing from you.


I pay about 5% of income in property taxes on my home and my cars every year.

My local sales tax is over 8% (which is obviously not part of all of my income, but it’s not zero either).

My state income tax is around 3% after deductions.

If I was self employed, I’d pay an extra 15% in taxes.

It’s not hard to get to well over 40% in taxes if you’re self-employed.


bfniii
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There has never been a time in history where the MSM more incapable of doing this very thing.
yet they are gaslighting every story all day every day. THE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT ELECT? you've got to be kidding. calling az and va like drebin calling that strike before the pitch hit the catcher's mitt? how many retractions have the msm had to make over the last 4 years because someone finally called them out for the bullcrap.

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Making the MSM a giant bogeyman in this day in age is a straw man.
you are being super, super naive bout this. go look up msm montages. it's orwellian scary. there's no way you can watch those videos and think they have your best interests in mind. here's another thing - they prove this thread as well. they never talk about policy. it's 100% tds. but i bet you knew that already didn't you

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He could have fought much more effectively if he was publicly silent while he was in the powerful office in the world
again, this is incredibly naive. trump supporters all over the country are being persecuted and the left is calling for violence against them. but you think everything would have been ok if trump had just kept his mouth shut. that makes sense


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bfniii
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Not the way it works
the excuse of people who have nothing

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you need to prove the fraud did take place
it is pointedly easy to show that biden votes were legit. but you knew that already didn't you

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and you can’t
yet court cases are still being litigated, mr gaslighter

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It did not happen to level you are pretending it did
again, prove it. prove that the election was legit. let's see those mail in ballots with legit sigs. you know, transparency and all. it's hilarious that the msm thinks they have debunked the dead people voting issue by purportedly turning up a handful of them when the lists published were in the thousands.

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People despised the person
SOME people

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Doesn’t matter whether you accept that or not
has nothing to do with that but keep your head in the sand. enjoy the nationwide mask mandate and trillion dollar bailout so everyone can stay at home while businesses are dying. good job


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pelicanpride
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so why are you sticking up for the people who are absolutely proving the intent of the op - that they voted from feelings over facts, political correctness over policy


Several people have listed policy that they care about. I noted increased taxes on the super wealthy and infrastructure spending. I’d also like to see Pell grants expanded. That’s something special to me because I had Pell grants. I also think it is of great importance that Biden strengthen our international ties because we have no hope to counterbalance a growing China without the help of our Western allies.
You are right about one thing, I didn’t vote for Biden primarily because of policy. I voted against Trump, but it wasn’t because I’m some emotional moron who isn’t capable of making logical decisions. I fundamentally believe he is dangerous for our country, and I believe that because he has been spreading false rumors of voter fraud for months now. These are rumors for which he has no widespread evidence. He can’t prove anything. We’ve seen that because courts have been throwing out his arguments left and right. Rather than accept the fact that the democratic process has functioned as it should and accept his defeat, he refuses to concede. This is the sort of shite that Third World dictators do. So, no, I didn’t vote for the man, and you are right that it wasn’t because of his policy.


bfniii
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This is 100% true. Using terms like “sleepy Joe” or “crooked Hillary” on Twitter is so far beneath the office of the president. It’s embarrassing. And why call other nations “ shite holes?” Or call parts of Baltimore “rat infested?” Grow the hell up and act like the most powerful man in the world.
there it is again. feelings over facts. let's make sure we let political correctness get in the way of a person who is absolutely knocking it out of the park in regards to policy. pathetic.

the good news is because we got our feelings hurt, we now have a president who's idea of unifying the country is browbeating and demonizing the opposition into submission because that's REALLY worthy of potus, right? my word we have lost our minds


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bfniii
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I said I’d like to see long term capital gains phased out at high thresholds. I’d also like to see some pretty heavy investment in renovating our aging infrastructure
did she campaign on that? do you have any confidence that kamala is going to accomplish that? where is that money going to come from because the fedgov is so far in debt it has to be measured using astronomical values


bfniii
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I don’t believe any single person deserves to own 10s of billions of dollars
what gives you the right to tell another person what they can own? why are you so worried about someone else's personal business? how can you say they didn't earn it? you have yet to explain this

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we all just sit here and wait
what kind of person does that? just go live your life and stop concerning yourself with how much money bill gates has. it's just how life turned out for him. none of your business

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American voters would’ve had some input into where that money went
holy cow. we should be able to strip people of their money and then decide what to do with it. unbelievable

still waiting on how kamala is going to make the country better after biden is jettisoned. you know, the reason we fired trump


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bfniii
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re: question for libs about policy
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Several people have listed policy that they care about
that's not what the op was about

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Biden strengthen our international ties
oh kamala will, on the backs of american tax payers. the gravy train was derailed for 4 years but it's firing back up.

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it wasn’t because I’m some emotional moron who isn’t capable of making logical decisions
respectfully, you have given no reason itt to think that you didn't vote emotionally

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spreading false rumors of voter fraud
how do you know they're false. oh wait, the msm told you so? well one thing is for sure, the people who authored the russia conspiracy coup, there's NO WAY they're capable of stealing an election. NOT A SMIDGEON

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the democratic process has functioned as it should
HOLY COW. MAIL IN BALLOTS WITH INVALID SIGS. TRUMP VOTES FOUND IN THE GARBAGE. yeah, it worked famously

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This is the sort of shite that Third World dictators do
apply that to the deep state and i totally agree. you know, the people who are censoring your access to information. now why would they do that?

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So, no, I didn’t vote for the man, and you are right that it wasn’t because of his policy
AN HONEST TDS. wow. i am stunned. your politics are atrocious but at least you're not like all these other pathetic frauds who can't admit how deranged they are. i would say there's a lot more chance you have of arriving at the truth than the morons infesting this board right now.


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re: question for libs about policy
This is a genuinely fantastic thread.

OP presents a baldly bad-faith question, then stumbles on an earnest responder with 0% REEEE factor. OP treats earnest responder like a REEEE anyway. This is why no one comes here for intelligent conversation. They come here to observe the fringiest of the fringe in their natural habitat or for confirmation of their views. Trump has accelerated this polarization, which is unhealthy for a functional liberal democracy. Which is the valid reason I voted for Biden.


bfniii
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re: question for libs about policy
seven pages. not one biden/kamala policy. NOT ONE

100% omb. that's where we are as a country. effeminate, butthurt, safe space, losers.


pelicanpride
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It’s not hard to get to well over 40% in taxes if you’re self-employed.


Okay, good point. For a regular self-employed individual it might be possible to approach 40% if you factor in things like sales tax and property tax. I was thinking in terms of income tax. I would like to point out though that people with billions of dollars in their bank account don’t approach 40% because sales tax and even property tax are negligible to them. They generate wealth on their investments, primarily stocks, and they pay 15% on that. So the Warren Buffets of the world are paying a lower percentage of their income in taxes than you are as a self-employed business owner. That’s why I don’t understand the vitriol on this board towards poorer folks, who pay very little. I mean, I get the frustration that not everyone is pulling his weight, but it’s the people above you who are really taking you to the cleaners.


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re: question for libs about policy
Bruh, 6 of the 7 pages are you arguing with no one.


pelicanpride
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did she campaign on that?


It’s listed in Biden’s platform. It a 2 second Google search.


bfniii
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OP presents a baldly bad-faith question
did it hurt your feelings too? this board is getting infested with deranged morons who are doing nothing but flaming and gloating about a stolen election but yeah, the op is in bad faith. don't dare call out the idiots who can't discuss policy yet voted for a criminal with alzheimer's and an opportunistic, vapid sound byte wind bag, neither of whom have accomplished a damn thing in federal government.

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then stumbles on an earnest responder with 0% REEEE factor
yeah, killing it on the policy side. just admitted voting based on feelings. good job genius

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This is why no one comes here for intelligent conversation
ah. is that it? you mean to tell me not one person can FREAKING CUT AND PASTE biden/kalama policies and peace out? go find your safe space snowflake

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They come here to observe the fringiest of the fringe in their natural habitat or for confirmation of their views
yeah because du is SO SANE and they really get into biden's policies over there. not one ounce of tds.

TELL ME WHERE I CAN FIND HONEST DISCUSSION ON BIDEN/KALAMA POLICIES SUPER SLEUTH

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which is unhealthy for a functional liberal democracy
the left is incapable of having a policy discussion and the msm is proof. prove me wrong. go ahead and bring up bill maher. what a joke

what's unhealthy for democracy is an entrenched deep state that censors information and political correctness run amok.

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Which is the valid reason I voted for Biden
so you voted for biden because the left is a complete utter failure discussing policy? my word. half of this country is insane


bfniii
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Bruh, 6 of the 7 pages are you arguing with no one
yet this board is ate up with trolls from the left flaming day and night and not one of them can be bothered to come over to this thread to educate us on democrat policies. it's astonishing. you people will DO ANYTHING to avoid actually talking about what policies from the left are going to make the country better. you don't even see you're guilty of what you're accusing me of. congrats


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SleauxPlay
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re: question for libs about policy
Have a nice evening, man. Hope you one day learn that neither party is defined by its fringe. Good luck with all that anger.


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pelicanpride
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how do you know they're false. oh wait, the msm told you so?


No, the courts told me so... Some amount of time will pass, and his frivolous court cases will go away. The recounts will finish, and soon after, Biden will be sworn in as president. At that point, one of two things will happen. 1) your head will explode, and we will never hear from you again, or 2) You will just burrow deeper into your current ideology by latching on to some crazy new conspiracy theory that you got from God knows where. My money is on the second option. Either way, I am embarrassed to say that it took me 8 pages into this thread to figure out that you are cookoo. I thought you actually wanted to have an intelligent conversation. I have no idea why.


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