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Philosophical Discussion: Why does the far left keep winning and winning big?
Posted on 4/5/23 at 8:40 am
Posted on 4/5/23 at 8:40 am
I am seeking an intelligent discussion so that we can get out of our bubble on here. This is an overwhelmingly extremely right wing space and the few leftists that post on here are dismissed as kooks and usually just not up to the task.
Last night as we slept, super far left candidates took two of the sneakily most important elections in the country, the Wisconsin Supreme Court and Mayor of Chicago. The Chicago one might be more disturbing as they elected an actual Communist, someone far, far, far worse than Lori Lightfoot and no one thought that possible to elect someone worse.
So why does the left keep kicking the shite out of the right? They have taken the popular vote in 5 of the last 6 Presidential elections, a Republican has only had more votes than their opponent once this freaking century.
And they seem to keep winning. They have taken control of the media, youth, education, much of the judiciary outside of the Supreme Court and a couple of fed circuits, District Attorney's offices, and our law enforcement and defense apparatus.
I am seeking a discussion that is more intelligent than simply "free shite" and "they cheat" (although certainly it could be as simple as those things, but for sake of discussion I am looking for more). Let's go beyond that and have a real discussion outside of our comfort zone, as to how this can be so appealing to so many, and how it can be effectively combated.
Last night as we slept, super far left candidates took two of the sneakily most important elections in the country, the Wisconsin Supreme Court and Mayor of Chicago. The Chicago one might be more disturbing as they elected an actual Communist, someone far, far, far worse than Lori Lightfoot and no one thought that possible to elect someone worse.
So why does the left keep kicking the shite out of the right? They have taken the popular vote in 5 of the last 6 Presidential elections, a Republican has only had more votes than their opponent once this freaking century.
And they seem to keep winning. They have taken control of the media, youth, education, much of the judiciary outside of the Supreme Court and a couple of fed circuits, District Attorney's offices, and our law enforcement and defense apparatus.
I am seeking a discussion that is more intelligent than simply "free shite" and "they cheat" (although certainly it could be as simple as those things, but for sake of discussion I am looking for more). Let's go beyond that and have a real discussion outside of our comfort zone, as to how this can be so appealing to so many, and how it can be effectively combated.
Posted on 4/5/23 at 8:42 am to Fun Bunch
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"free shite" and "they cheat"
That and people are highly susceptible to propaganda.
Posted on 4/5/23 at 8:42 am to Fun Bunch
The Wisconsin thing is bad but how is “right” wing to blame for Chicago. Chicago has ALWAYS been a democrat strong hold. The bigger question is how did the Dems swing so far and the rank and file be ok with it.
Posted on 4/5/23 at 8:44 am to Fun Bunch
The American electorate in good swathes of the country are far left nuts. Those that aren't far left nuts get lumped into that side as they hate and fear the right on instinct.
History is a guide here: Midwestern farm boys had nothing in common with Abolitionist fanatics and had far more in common with poor white trash from the South in the Late Unpleasantness. That didn't prevent them from rushing to colors on the side of fanaticism, did it? They hated and feared some mythical version of what they thought was their enemy rather than the actuall fanatics they sided with.
With the Left, there is a tremendous case of blinders of what their side actually is all about. Show a moderate Democrats Libs of TikTok of trannies twerking in front of children and they won't recoil in horror--they will accuse you of it not being true and still vote for Democrats.
History is a guide here: Midwestern farm boys had nothing in common with Abolitionist fanatics and had far more in common with poor white trash from the South in the Late Unpleasantness. That didn't prevent them from rushing to colors on the side of fanaticism, did it? They hated and feared some mythical version of what they thought was their enemy rather than the actuall fanatics they sided with.
With the Left, there is a tremendous case of blinders of what their side actually is all about. Show a moderate Democrats Libs of TikTok of trannies twerking in front of children and they won't recoil in horror--they will accuse you of it not being true and still vote for Democrats.
Posted on 4/5/23 at 8:46 am to Fun Bunch
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They have taken control of the media, youth, education, much of the judiciary
You answered your own question.
Posted on 4/5/23 at 8:46 am to Fun Bunch
Easy answer...they played the long game better and saw the writing on the wall for changing demographics in this country and targeted those growing demographics, all while gaining control over media, higher education, tech, the entertainment industry, etc. They are controlling the message and hitting the younger generations with their ideology from a young age.
Add that along with Trump being an extremely polarizing figure who most people outside of this messagae board can't stand, and you have our current situation.
Add that along with Trump being an extremely polarizing figure who most people outside of this messagae board can't stand, and you have our current situation.
This post was edited on 4/5/23 at 8:50 am
Posted on 4/5/23 at 8:46 am to Fun Bunch
Left controls the message apparatus
and the people on the receiving end of the message are simple and easily influenced by messaging directed to evoke emotion.
and the people on the receiving end of the message are simple and easily influenced by messaging directed to evoke emotion.
Posted on 4/5/23 at 8:47 am to Fun Bunch
Left-leaning corporate media and social media brainwashing is a big part of it. It doesn't help that academia, the entertainment industry, and big corporations are all in on one side. I'm not sure how this happened, but the effort to control the flow of information has something to do with it. A lot of the alt media guys are saying this is the best summary of how we got here:
A guide to understanding the hoax of the century.
A guide to understanding the hoax of the century.
This post was edited on 4/5/23 at 8:49 am
Posted on 4/5/23 at 8:47 am to Fun Bunch
Wisconsin is not surprising. It is 78% white and what we know is that much whiteness is a bad thing.
Diversity is our strength, when it comes to keeping the inherent stupidity of white people in check.
Diversity is our strength, when it comes to keeping the inherent stupidity of white people in check.
Posted on 4/5/23 at 8:48 am to Fun Bunch
One word- indoctrination.
This isn’t new. It’s been in the works for a century.
The Soviets in particular said we will take your country without firing a shot.
Infiltration and indoctrination takes time.
The chickens are now home and roosting.
Americans are largely dumb and easily manipulated. Don’t know history and you’ll repeat it.
This isn’t new. It’s been in the works for a century.
The Soviets in particular said we will take your country without firing a shot.
Infiltration and indoctrination takes time.
The chickens are now home and roosting.
Americans are largely dumb and easily manipulated. Don’t know history and you’ll repeat it.
Posted on 4/5/23 at 8:48 am to STEVED00
From what was said in other threads, most groups supported the other candidate but the teacher union got behind this one.
When public employee unions are the kingmakers in politics, you are inherently fricked.
When public employee unions are the kingmakers in politics, you are inherently fricked.
Posted on 4/5/23 at 8:48 am to Fun Bunch
The restraint on evil behavior is no longer there because of how far we have fallen morally. At some point on the timeline, a human being that insists on remaining in their sin/addiction/immortality is given over to that sin, they are vacated by God. Now we are seeing that at the societal level, rather than the individual level.
Posted on 4/5/23 at 8:48 am to Fun Bunch
This is not a comprehensive response, but I believe one element is that the general public is shockingly naive about civics. They could not tell you what the Bill of Rights is if their lives depended on it. A second element is that people have come believe that every single important issue in life is within the purview of government action, and from that comes the reality if a given person sees one issue as important enough, even if that issue really should not be a matter of government at all, the person will ignore all the Marxism in the world to protect that one issue. A third element is absolutely the colleges and media, which are echoe chambers for leftism.
Posted on 4/5/23 at 8:49 am to Fun Bunch
They stick together and have no principals or morals and do whatever it takes. No matter how immoral, sinister, or illegal. They just get it done.
Posted on 4/5/23 at 8:49 am to Fun Bunch
Gaslighting. Fear leads to votes.
Claiming threats to democracy by the left leads the weak to more fear. See Ottotard klan.
Claiming threats to democracy by the left leads the weak to more fear. See Ottotard klan.
Posted on 4/5/23 at 8:49 am to Fun Bunch
Have you ever actually met people on the street? 80% are functioning retards.
Posted on 4/5/23 at 8:50 am to Fun Bunch
Because the right doesn't put in any work while hoping for a quick fix
Posted on 4/5/23 at 8:50 am to Fun Bunch
They gained control over entertainment, news and education decades ago. It paid off.
Posted on 4/5/23 at 8:50 am to Fun Bunch
Free shite and no consequences for poor decision making is a pretty alluring proposition.
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