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Posted on 12/8/20 at 11:20 am to GeauxTigers123
quote:probably
Is it from ticket revenue + better donors?
Posted on 12/8/20 at 11:24 am to Pedro
When i first heard huds name thrown out i thought hell no.
now im for it. proven good coach in the sun belt. knows the state and recruited the area hard already. we have plenty of girls on campus to keep him happy. screw it. why not?
now im for it. proven good coach in the sun belt. knows the state and recruited the area hard already. we have plenty of girls on campus to keep him happy. screw it. why not?
Posted on 12/8/20 at 11:25 am to GeauxTigers123
They sell more tickets, get more in donations, and they scrape more from the general fund than ULM.
Posted on 12/8/20 at 11:25 am to Pedro
Hud would get y’all a record number of wins and probation all within 5 years. Worth it in my opinion
Posted on 12/8/20 at 11:26 am to Pedro
That’s the attitude!
In all honesty, if he can just sell the “hold the rope” stuff to the players and fans, you’ll win a couple extra games vs this season and you’ll get more butts in the stands, which means more revenue.
Posted on 12/8/20 at 11:27 am to hendersonshands
quote:a little probation may do us some good. basketballs "run" a couple years ago came after raped by the ncaa.
Hud would get y’all a record number of wins and probation all within 5 years. Worth it in my opinion
Posted on 12/8/20 at 11:34 am to Overbrook
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They sell more tickets, get more in donations, and they scrape more from the general fund than ULM.
As another poster pointed out yesterday talking about the budget issues Louisiana G5 schools might have after this year, Louisiana is the only state in the country (or one of the very few) where an athletic fee can’t be tacked on to college tuition without a student vote. Right or wrong, that’s going to put LA G5s at a real budget disadvantage in coming seasons, always has in past seasons.
51% of ULM’s athletic budget comes from the general fund transfers. 57% for UL. (2019 USA Today data).
If ULM can afford it, they should try to bump up to that extra 6%, but who knows if they will. UL’s President actually has been trying to ween down the transfer lately to prep for possible future changes in either tuition revenues or some sort of legislative change banning the practice.
Posted on 12/8/20 at 11:37 am to GeauxTigers123
For starters, there is a definitive line drawn in the sand between ULL and LSU. I am going to venture to say that the majority of the major boosters at ULL put that school first and LSU is just an afterthought. For ULM, they always live in the shadows of LSU which is sad because the school does have some redeeming qualities despite being in the armpit of Monroe. Secondly, the athletics for the most part suck and have for a long time. If ULM was somehow able to get some winning going like they did in football in 2012 and more so during the NLU era, more people would jump on the bandwagon. However, it’s hard to support a loser and sadly that is a fact.
Posted on 12/8/20 at 11:42 am to GeauxTigers123
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How does ULL get more funding than ULM? Is it from ticket revenue + better donors?
Both.
Posted on 12/8/20 at 11:56 am to GeauxTigers123
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How does ULL get more funding than ULM? Is it from ticket revenue + better donors?
Both of these. Plus 1 school is twice as big as the other as well as 6 times the endowment
This post was edited on 12/8/20 at 11:58 am
Posted on 12/8/20 at 11:57 am to Cajunese
Is the guy asking that question serious? Where else would the money come from? I think it shows how ignorant he must be of both UL & ULM, (and LFT & Monroe for that matter), and the huge differences between them.
Posted on 12/8/20 at 12:18 pm to jennyjones
quote:It's almost like ULL is the second largest 4-year university in the state and ULM is the northern clone of McNeese by enrollment and endowment. How people fail to realize that is beyond me.
Both of these. Plus 1 school is twice as big as the other as well as 6 times the endowment
Posted on 12/8/20 at 12:20 pm to WildManGoose
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It's almost like ULL is the second largest 4-year university in the state and ULM is the northern clone of McNeese by enrollment and endowment. How people fail to realize that is beyond me.
That's what I am saying, lol. He is either really really ignorant or is just trolling.
Posted on 12/8/20 at 1:25 pm to supadave3
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Who here knows Coach McGee? Carlos is hilarious.
He is indeed.
I was an RA in the old football dorm Zigler in Fall of 2000 during my undergrad days at McNeese. Used to hangout with Carlos and Coach Henry when they'd come by for Friday night curfew bed checks.
A lot of good stories from that semester.
Posted on 12/8/20 at 2:27 pm to MWP
quote:
If ULM was somehow able to get some winning going like they did in football in 2012 and more so during the NLU era, more people would jump on the bandwagon. However, it’s hard to support a loser and sadly that is a fact.
A couple of years of winning would make a huge difference. They put butts in seats in 2012. In 2012, ULM averaged attendance of 19,359 at their 5 home games. Last year, ULL averaged 17,496 and in the same year, ULM with a record of 5-7 still had average attendance of 16,728. It's not attendance that's holding them down.
That 6% difference of general fund revenue between the athletic departments is a big deal. It shows just how much Swearingen ran the school into the ground. He was a political hire and never should have been running a university.
At least the campus looks pretty good now.
Posted on 12/8/20 at 2:40 pm to WildManGoose
quote:
It's almost like ULL is the second largest 4-year university in the state and ULM is the northern clone of McNeese by enrollment and endowment. How people fail to realize that is beyond me.
Because there were drastic changes to both schools in the last 30 years. 30 years ago La Tech, NLU, and USL were all about the same size. It's shocking how much ULM has fallen while the other 2 have grown. I was shocked in the early 2000's when I saw how much attendance had dropped. For people like me when were there in the late 70's and early 80's, we never would have imagined it could fall so quickly.
Posted on 12/8/20 at 2:51 pm to LaLadyinTx
Sorry, but you are trying to make an apples-to-apples argument, when it is really apples-to-oranges.
Just a things (but I am sure there are more) to make my point:
1. You are taking averages from last year, and ignoring previous years (Hud years in it's prime, e.g.) where the numbers were much better. We are still recovering from the fall-out of Hud, plus last year's great season was a little over shadowed by a certain team 70 miles to our east, who also had a pretty good year. ULM FB attendance has never acheived the success of UL's, and has never had a sustained period of high attendance since entering FBS play.
2. You have also over-looked all the other sports that UL has a great draw, namely baseball and softball, but even our basketball draws much better than ULM does, or ever has done. The Tigue holds 6K, and always sells out seasons tix. It also has 10 private suites that also sold out and come with a heavy price tag. Lamson park holds ~3K and is also always sold-out. ULM average baseball attendance is what, 500-600?
3. And it is not just attendance: we are light years aways from you guys in merchandising, and especially in RCAF donations, as well as provate donations.
Just a things (but I am sure there are more) to make my point:
1. You are taking averages from last year, and ignoring previous years (Hud years in it's prime, e.g.) where the numbers were much better. We are still recovering from the fall-out of Hud, plus last year's great season was a little over shadowed by a certain team 70 miles to our east, who also had a pretty good year. ULM FB attendance has never acheived the success of UL's, and has never had a sustained period of high attendance since entering FBS play.
2. You have also over-looked all the other sports that UL has a great draw, namely baseball and softball, but even our basketball draws much better than ULM does, or ever has done. The Tigue holds 6K, and always sells out seasons tix. It also has 10 private suites that also sold out and come with a heavy price tag. Lamson park holds ~3K and is also always sold-out. ULM average baseball attendance is what, 500-600?
3. And it is not just attendance: we are light years aways from you guys in merchandising, and especially in RCAF donations, as well as provate donations.
This post was edited on 12/8/20 at 2:55 pm
Posted on 12/8/20 at 2:52 pm to ragincajun03
Fobbs has to be the hire... Monroe would love it ... NLU/ULM never took advantage of having Neville, Carroll, and Wossman ten minutes from campus... never having a coach with local ties set the program back... the community never forgave ULM for not giving local players a chance... my high school days (the 90’s) they flat out didn’t recruit in town... ULM should have only recruited NE Louisiana for years in my opinion just to build the fan base...
Posted on 12/8/20 at 2:53 pm to LaLadyinTx
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At least the campus looks pretty good now.
And I'll go easy on you and not comment on this.
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