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re: ULM Fires Head Coach Matt Viator
Posted on 12/7/20 at 1:00 pm to GeauxHouston
Posted on 12/7/20 at 1:00 pm to GeauxHouston
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Why? What do you or they gain from them dropping?
They lose revenue, better television coverage and the ability to go to a bowl game.
At least everyone in FCS has a shot to make the playoffs and win a championship. FBS G5 schools have almost no shot at playing for a championship under the current format.
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Posted on 12/7/20 at 1:19 pm to LaLadyinTx
Ronald Reagan was still in office as President the last time that school in Monroe beat Louisiana Tech in Football. Sit back & think about that for a second. If there is any school that needs to drop back down to FCS it is that school in Monroe. I say this knowing we have many budget, administrative, & fan issues at Tech but they are on another level of mediocrity.
Posted on 12/7/20 at 1:25 pm to sta4ever
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at ULM, where it’s almost impossible to have success at
Well, the guy never really had a ton of support from his administration and Monroe people give 2 shites about ULM honestly. I hope that things turn around with a new President on campus within the athletic program and from listening to the new President, he sounds like he is pro-athletics. Maybe he remembers that the only winning season ULM had in 2012 resulted in more attendance at football games and higher enrollments the following semester. Also, it is possible he let go of Matt because he wants to start fresh with a clean slate with the football program and not have a train wreck of season like this one to build off of. Either way, I wish ULM the best. They have let LA Tech run laps around them and by and large let ULL do the same with the icing on the cake being letting those guys just take the Lousiana name without so much as an objection about it.
Posted on 12/7/20 at 1:30 pm to Hetfield
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Ronald Reagan was still in office as President the last time that school in Monroe beat Louisiana Tech in Football.
That would be impressive, I guess, if the last time they played each other was probably when Bush 1 was in office if we are going to throw out Presidential comparisons and lets not forget that ya'll wanted none of ULM in 2012.
Posted on 12/7/20 at 1:34 pm to chew4219
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Yeah he was only 78-33 as the HC at McNeese. He never had a losing record there. Y’all haven’t won an SLC title since he has left. I’d say Viator was McNeese’s whole program.
Southland is much better now.
We played for 2 National Titles before he got there. We won 4 Conference titles in 10 years under Viator--and two of them were in his first 2 years, and only 1 in his last 6. We never won a playoff game under Viator either.
78-33 looks great until you look at everything else. He didn't win when it mattered.
Posted on 12/7/20 at 1:47 pm to Cowboyfan89
How much have y’all won since he’s left?
Posted on 12/7/20 at 2:31 pm to Hetfield
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Ronald Reagan was still in office as President the last time that school in Monroe beat Louisiana Tech in Football. Sit back & think about that for a second.
I sat back and thought about it for a second and realized how dumb the premise of your post is. ULM hasn't played Tech in over 20 years. They've played about 5 times since the Reagan administration. Should i think some more?
No one is arguing that ULM is on the same level of Tech. I get why some of you Tech fans have a reputation of being annoying.
Posted on 12/7/20 at 2:34 pm to Billder
How quickly the Techsters forget they backed out of the Independence Bowl and ended up bowl-less after a 9-3 season because they were afraid ULM was going to wax their arse.
Posted on 12/7/20 at 2:38 pm to The Boat
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How quickly the Techsters forget they backed out of the Independence Bowl and ended up bowl-less after a 9-3 season because they were afraid ULM was going to wax their arse.
Posted on 12/7/20 at 2:41 pm to msutiger
I would love to see an entire FCS Conference made up solely of LA football teams:
ULM
Grambling
SLU
Southern
McNeese
Nicholls St
Northwestern
UNO (would have start a program).
Prior to Coach Hud at ULL, I would throw in the Cajuns too.
That would create some serious pride for LA football.
ULM
Grambling
SLU
Southern
McNeese
Nicholls St
Northwestern
UNO (would have start a program).
Prior to Coach Hud at ULL, I would throw in the Cajuns too.
That would create some serious pride for LA football.
Posted on 12/7/20 at 2:50 pm to LaLadyinTx
You’re coming across as upset
Posted on 12/7/20 at 2:50 pm to Hetfield
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Ronald Reagan was still in office as President the last time that school in Monroe beat Louisiana Tech in Football
That's like me bragging about how Vandy hasn't beat LSU since daddy Bush was in office. Tech really isn't all that like many of you think you are.
Posted on 12/7/20 at 2:54 pm to MWP
Agreed. Bruno didn't give two shits about athletics. Berry does and seems to take more pride in making ULM better. I think he can it'll just depend on getting more alumni involved and donating to the university. I think he has something cooking if he fired Viator, because I didn't really think ULM would be able to do much better than Viator. This Ensminger to ULM rumor has me a bit optimistic
Posted on 12/7/20 at 3:05 pm to chew4219
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How much have y’all won since he’s left?
About as much as we did outside of 2007, 2013, and 2015.
I mean, we had 4 seasons out of his 10 with 3 losses or less. The rest were 4 or 5 loss seasons. We finished 3rd or worse as many times as we finished 1st.
I'm not saying he is a bad coach. But the fact is, he capitalized on his best season at McNeese. Other than that, he was pretty average. While some people applaud him for 4 conference titles, I look at the fact that his record against FCS teams outside of the Southland was pretty bad (especially in the playoffs), and multiple Southland teams surpassed McNeese on the field. Sam Houston, Southeastern, and Central Arkansas all had more success than McNeese during Viator's time there. Hell, McNeese made 2 FCS Title game appearances before SELA started playing football again, and UCA wasn't even an FCS program when Viator became head coach.
Either way, Viator was a good coach, and I hope he finds another job soon, and more success than he had at ULM.
Posted on 12/7/20 at 3:06 pm to LaLadyinTx
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What you gave is certainly not a reason for ULM to not also be Louisiana.
It wasn't that many years ago that we beat Arkansas, sent Auburn into OT, and almost beat Baylor. It's great to see our neighbors (La Tech, I'm talking to you!) hope for us to fail so they can gloat and our other sister school (ULL, I'm talking to you!) gloating and hoping for failure as well. Not been bleeding money as many years as you seem to think.
ULM isn't destined to be this way forever. I remember a time when we regularly beat La Tech (but they still thought they were better, ) and when USL was pretty close to where ULM is sitting right now.
It's not time to move down. It's time to figure out how to do better! Gorgeous campus and some great programs (especially healthcare)...we can do better!
Here's the difference: Both UL(L) and Tech have grown their athletic budgets and facilities since the times when the three schools competed against each other in the same conference. Since ULM joined the ranks at the FBS level, they have had ONE winning season in the last 26a years. Right now, there are four.....FOUR Southland schools with larger budgets than ULM. Neither Tech nor us have that issue. Heck, our athletic budget doubles yours; yet you are considered a foe.
Also, we were in the same boat as far as 20 years ago where ULM is today. The problem with that is the gap is getting wider with more schools being added with conference realignment. The App State's, Charlotte's, and Georgia Southern's of the world are coming in and blowing ULM right by.
If ULM can somehow get enrollment up to produce more revenue and a stagnant fan base to donate to the Warhawk Athletic Foundation, I don't think ULM will have any other choice but to move down the Southland.
This post was edited on 12/7/20 at 4:05 pm
Posted on 12/7/20 at 3:07 pm to Tigear
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I would love to see an entire FCS Conference made up solely of LA football teams:
ULM
Grambling
SLU
Southern
McNeese
Nicholls St
Northwestern
UNO (would have start a program).
Prior to Coach Hud at ULL, I would throw in the Cajuns too.
That would create some serious pride for LA football.
Outside of the Southern and Grambling, that was basically the Gulf States Conference.
Posted on 12/7/20 at 3:20 pm to Cajunese
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If ULM can somehow get enrollment up to produce more revenue and a stagnant fan base to donate to the Warhawk Athletic Foundation, I don't think ULM will have any other choice but to move down the Southland.
I would have said that moving down would be out of question pre-Covid since ULM uses the money games revenue to not only prop up the feeble football operation but the damn near anorexic operation of the other sports at ULM. With those big streams gone for this year (I know that they are trying to get something out of Georgia/Arkansas), it may open some eyes that maybe stepping down should be a possibility. However, I think the new President is going to make a huge push to make the football thing right because in his acceptance speech when he was hired he mentioned that he is a NLU grad and wants to return the program to where it was when he was a student.
This post was edited on 12/7/20 at 3:22 pm
Posted on 12/7/20 at 3:22 pm to The Boat
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How quickly the Techsters forget they backed out of the Independence Bowl and ended up bowl-less after a 9-3 season because they were afraid ULM was going to wax their arse.
This revisionist history is so inaccurate it could be a headline on CNN
Posted on 12/7/20 at 3:34 pm to msutiger
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This revisionist history is so inaccurate it could be a headline on CNN
I will give you the arse waxing in the statement is a little far fetched but no matter how you spin it, Tech had an offer to play and turned it down knowing full well who the opponent on the other end was. Now whether they did it for what most Tech folks say was an opportunity for a better offer that never came that ultimately fricked the school for getting bowl revenue and the players for getting additional practice time or they just didn't want to play ULM because getting a loss to team that most of their fans feel is beneath them would be a huge black eye is very unclear. Nevertheless, the perception is still there.
Posted on 12/7/20 at 3:35 pm to NIH
And hopelessly at that, lol.
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