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re: Trump EVISCERATED the FAA, and blamed their incompetence on their DEI practices

Posted on 1/30/25 at 5:31 pm to
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
34286 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 5:31 pm to
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Is that what caused the crash?

ATC told the helo a plane was in their flight path

The helo (while training the pilot) requested permission to use their own visual clearance to avoid the aircraft

ATC granted it. Later ATC noticed they continued toward the aircraft. They once again asked if they were in visual contact, and also told them to fly behind the aircraft. The helo confirmed, and again requested their own visual guidance. It was granted a 2nd time

13 sec later the helo flew into the plane
Posted by Nomadic Bengal
Member since Jul 2022
3710 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 5:33 pm to
pathetic leadership.
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
34286 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 5:34 pm to
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females employed by major airlines had significantly higher accident rates
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
19821 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 5:38 pm to
While I hate DEI policies, he shouldn't have gone on that rant without the investigation being complete. This very well could have been the helicopter pilot's fault or the ATC running that might have been a white dude with 20 years of experience that just fricked up. Placing the blame on BootyJuice was a little premature.
Posted by SpartanSoul
Member since Aug 2016
3354 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 5:50 pm to
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might have been a white dude with 20 years of experience that just fricked up.


This is what people don't understand. Even if it was a 20yr white dude that screwed up DEI could have a hand in it.

Every $ and hour spent on DEI could have been used to improve training or reviewing that 20yr white dude's performance. Instead of having DEI seminars and job fairs the leadership could have been reviewing policies or see if that 20 yr white dude was being overworked and needed help.

Just being preoccupied with DEI is the problem. When you focus on DEI you lose track of what is truly important. DEI lowers the organization's performance.
This post was edited on 1/30/25 at 5:52 pm
Posted by prplngldtigr
just up da bayou from down
Member since Dec 2004
8208 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 5:52 pm to
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Just being preoccupied with DEI is the problem. When you focus on DEI you lose track of what is truly important.


Well said indeed.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
24018 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 5:57 pm to
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Is that what caused the crash?


There have now been numerous close calls at airports. One in Austin a couple of years ago when a Southwest 737 was cleared for takeoff when a FedeX plane was on final. Listen to that audio and try to figure out who the incompetent controller was. There have been other incidents at Austin. That's in part what Trump alluded to today. He wants the best and brightest and most capable as controllers. It takes a certain type of mind to do that job.
This post was edited on 1/30/25 at 5:59 pm
Posted by SaturatedPhat
Member since Jul 2024
1180 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 5:57 pm to
Grow a pair, fig.
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
34286 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 6:01 pm to
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without the investigation being complete

The investigation is complete (data has been analyzed. ATC has been questioned, videos have been reviewed, orders have been tracked, personnel have been identified)

All they are doing now is fighting to see who gets thrown under the bus. And with Trump as prez, they know he will call them out of they are shading the truth

And it looks like Trump knows the tower was undermanned. He knows the tower likely should not have released the helo a 2nd time to do their own visual guidance, and that the trainee helo pilot wasnt following known protocol in staying to one side of the river, and below 400 ft. Which obviously ATC didnt enforce to them either
Posted by SEC. 593
Chicago
Member since Aug 2012
4400 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 6:22 pm to
Isn't that the same thing that was posted last year by Musk, and then it was revealed it's the same job posting the FAA has used since 2013?
Posted by Stealth Matrix
29°59'55.98"N 90°05'21.85"W
Member since Aug 2019
11707 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 6:26 pm to
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Act presidential and own the issue

He's acting like a true Leader of Men, meting justice and awareness to those who are responsible: DEI and its' collaborators.
Posted by lesgeaux
Member since Jul 2008
3971 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 6:45 pm to
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____________________________
quote: Bad look from him. There is a time and place for that crap just not right now. Act presidential and own the issue regardless of cause.
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He is being presidential, just not in the way that you like. He's being presidential by speaking truth. He's not going to accept the blame for idiotic policies enacted by the former regime, and he shouldn't. It's not his issue to own, but he will fix it. Just like the water situation in California. Just like the border/immigration crisis. Just like the pointless wars.



+1
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
3996 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 9:39 pm to
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Now you want to whine

At least I'm not melting like this, you far right whako:
quote:

He had been in office 9 days, you dumb idiot. Biden blamed Trump for his failures for 4 years. Now you want to whine about Trump not owning an issue that clearly had nothing to do with him? You far left wackos are absolutely disgusting people.



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Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128843 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 9:45 pm to
Captain Marvin was a notorious failure. No reason to blame a chick for that one.
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
21808 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 9:52 pm to
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Just being preoccupied with DEI is the problem. When you focus on DEI you lose track of what is truly important. DEI lowers the organization's performance.


You already got props for this statement... but wanted to give you more as this is a PERFECT summation of the problem of DEI no matter the sex, race or disability of the responsible parties involved.
Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
17966 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 9:58 pm to
I’m not sure how DEI came up in conversation. If it was organic, that might be more understandable. If it’s simply to blame the crash on it, it’s not a good look.

Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
12350 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 10:29 pm to
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Yes. At a minimum it was a strong influence. Even if no DEI hire was directly involved in this incident the DEI policies are to blame. Instead of focusing on performance, safety and reviewing policy and procedures to improve safety they were focused on DEI at any cost. The cost was the poor souls on those aircraft.


How so? Has the id of the ATC involved been revealed? The identity of the military training pilot is not under the purview of the FAA.

Not wanting to confuse Pete B. with military leadership.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128843 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 11:13 pm to
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I’m not sure how DEI came up in conversation.


Was the tower understaffed?
Did ATC turn down qualified applicants because they were white? Are current controllers overworked due to staffing issues? Are the number of near misses up or down? Did the ATC change their recruiting and qualifications to meet diversity targets?

How many more questions would you like to get on this?
Posted by Kjnstkmn
Vermilion Parish
Member since Aug 2020
21919 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 11:27 pm to
Posted by Kjnstkmn
Vermilion Parish
Member since Aug 2020
21919 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 11:43 pm to
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