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There was a road rage incident in the parking lot.


We still don't know all of the facts except that he blocked her and then moved. We don't know if there was anything happening before the clips we see. She could be the one raging.

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He left the spot and parked far away. After parking, he approached her spot.


He had to approach her spot to get to the store from where he parked. Also, she exited the vehicle with the weapon before he arrived. He also seemed to be going past her, but she is saying something to him and then takes steps towards him with the weapon drawn.


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I have a firearm in my vehicle. It isnt so I can take it inside stores. It is in the event that someone approaches my vehicle. There is a pattern of violence in America that starts with road rage and escalates when someone "aggressively approaches" afterward.


Then you had better be smart about using it. She did not have to exit the vehicle with weapon drawn if she was afraid of what you speak of.

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When he approached, she didn't shoot him. As a matter of fact, she retreated around a car. And he continued pursuit.


Means nothing at all, especially if she can't articulate why she exited the vehicle with the weapon drawn. She could be considered the aggressor from the point she left the vehicle with the weapon.

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If she was malicious, she would have shot him at the first approach.


Not necessarily, she could have been working her nerve up, trying to bait him etc.

Remember, this is in a public space, and they both have a right to be there no matter which was in the right over the parking spot dispute. You can't just pull a firearm and claim a certain amount of space because you had an argument over a parking space. Involving a firearm in a verbal dispute that had ended, remember he went and parked elsewhere and she pulled the weapon while he wasn't there, is escalation and she may be able to explain why she exited the vehicle with the gun but maybe not, we need to know more details and audio or witness accounts of what was said.



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He kept walking towards her after she pulled a gun on him and was retreating away from him for over a minute before she shot.


She has to be able to articulate exactly why she introduced the firearm for her following actions to be legal. If it is deemed she became the aggressor when the firearm was pulled out or when she took steps toward him then she could lose the claim of self defense. Maybe there is audio or witness accounts that prove he was making threats to harm her but maybe he was just telling her she was ignorant and a bitch and she felt disrespected.

Remember this is an open public space where both had a right to be. You can't just pull out a gun and claim your personal bubble without being able to articulate why you felt the need to do so.

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I don’t know about you but if I pulled a gun on someone and they kept coming at me, they are crazy enough in my eyes that if I let them get close, they’re going to use it on me if they can get it


And that is the responsibility you carry when you carry a firearm and pull it out on someone. If you can't articulate why you pulled it and escalated the situation you can't use the "they’re going to use it on me if they can get it" defense" if you were not in the right pulling the gun. Yes, the other person is stupid but that doesn't mean you can start blasting. This is all carry 101 and why most that carry avoid confrontation at almost any cost.


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You sound like the prosecution in the Rick Chow case. He ran 100+ yards out of his store with a gun. The kid left the premises of his store. The prosecution kept saying how wrong it was to chase after a kid over a water bottle. His lawyer destroyed that by asking if that’s illegal to run out of his store with a gun. Is it illegal? That’s what I want to know. Do you have a right to step out of your car with a loaded weapon in that situation? It will be interesting to see it play out.


The situation is nothing like that case. This is in a public parking lot arguing over a public parking space and like posted above he was blocking her out of the space, no false imprisonment etc. No laws were broken other than probably calling each other names etc. They both had a right to be there.

She will have to articulate why she introduced the gun. Maybe she can do so, maybe not.

I wouldn't read too much into her not being charged immediately. Politics is always involved when race is in play and I'm sure the big holiday weekend was factored in. They will take their time and have everything lined up no matter which way they go.

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They weren’t in the middle of an agreement, ding bat. He had driven off before she got out of her car.


Then why did she exit the vehicle gun in hand? If the argument was over, she had nothing to fear. This version looks even worse for her since she has no reason to be afraid or escalate. Was she "goin' hunt'n"?


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You do know lots of people keep a gun in their glovebox and don’t actually carry. Is it that hard to understand that you might exit the car with it after encountering a lunatic who just left after blocking your car with his car for a few minutes?


But you just said it was over and he was gone. Why did she need a firearm in hand? If she was afraid, she could have called 911 and sat tight in her car with the weapon ready.

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She didn’t point it until he stormed up from across the lot and bulldogged her. She even took multiple steps back before pointing the weapon.


She upped the ante when she introduced deadly force in a verbal argument over a parking space.

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You can’t honestly believe she was the aggressor.


I'm the one saying we don't have enough info for a definitive declaration. But I will say she has some explaining to do. When you use a firearm to kill someone in a parking lot over a parking space dispute you will have to articulate a reasonable explanation for all decisions and actions leading up to pulling the trigger.

Exiting the vehicle with the weapon will be the hardest to explain and as I posted before she will be better off if she is on the line with 911 when she did so. Maybe she was on the line with them and told them she was afraid to be outside and was going to try to make it to the store to wait for a LEO. I don't know and neither do you.

Any audio, witness accounts and possibly the dashcam footage that exists will shine more light on it.



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What about every person that either open carries or concealed carries. Is there any real difference in this situation? Was it illegal or threatening in any way for her to exit her car?



LOL are you really comparing legal carring a weapon to getting out of your car with a loaded weapon in hand while in the middle of an argument over a parking spot in a public parking lot? :lol: :lol:

If you don't see the difference, then you are beyond reason and hope.
This is her just after exiting the car.



She would be better off if she is on the line with 911 and they have the audio of her "being afraid".

If she was on the line with her best friend talking about how she was about to bust a cap in a white dude, then she has a problem, especially is there are witnesses. We know one witness claimed she was warning him if he continued to approach her she would shoot. We don't know how reliable that witness is or if there are others that can verify or dispute.
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Where did you see this? This was not in the video or stated in the article posted.


That's the problem. People are making proclamations without all of the info.

Around 40 seconds in this video. Note, I'm not claiming this is a good source for the complete story, it is just the first result from my search.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/us/articles/man-killed-over-walmart-parking-145339796.html
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The only assumption I made


You don't know how far back the altercation started and if the video you have seen is the beginning. You also have no idea of anything said etc. There is dash cam video also that we have not seen. It could be from either participant or a bystander and may contain audio.

In short, you do not have a total picture but are claiming that your version it the righteous one. Nobody knows.

And why didn't you address why she got out of her car with the gun? I don't think a reasonable person would exit the car if she were truly afraid.
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For the down voters.

I didn't dv but you are probably getting them because you are making way too many assumptions and acting like you have a clear understanding of what everyone's motivations were.

For instance, him "blocking" her for a few minutes. We have no idea of what actually happened. maybe he parked in the space, and she was throwing a fit and he finally said the hell with it a moved so she could have the space to try to end the crap. Or maybe he was actually blocking her and acting like he was going to ram her. We just do not know.

She should not have exited the vehicle with the gun drawn. If she wasn't in fear, then don't draw the gun. If she was then call 911 and sit tight with the firearm ready until LEO arrives.

We have no idea what his motivations were either. Was he threating to break her neck or was he saying her pulling a gun over a parking spot is retarded?

Guessing and proposing what if is fine but too many on here act like they know enough to give an opinion with any weight and no one does right now.
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She exited the car before the man approached her.


The problem for her will be she exited with the gun drawn. If she was in fear enough to draw the gun, then why would she exit the vehicle.

The timeline of when she called 911 will come into play also. Did she call while in the car? If she did, I'm sure they would have told her to stay in the vehicle until LEO arrived. If not, once again it opens her up to why she had the gun drawn and exited the vehicle.

We lack too many details to come to a legal conclusion. All we have enough to do is guess.

It does serve as a reminder to avoid situations like this like the plague. Laugh it off and go about your business.
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Tell me something, how about Trayvon feeling threatened and defending himself from a guy stalking him at night with a gun


Travon was seen looking in a window in an area with break-ins. As a side fact he had encrypted pictures on his phone of stolen jewelry etc. on his bedspread that were suppressed. He was capable of just going home but purposely circled the block to ambush Zimmerman from behind a bush, where tools used in the burglaries were found. He was no "child" and was not in fear of his life.

Zimmerman is a POS but so was Travon and Travon started the violence.

As for this case, there will be more evidence to fill in the gaps and getting emotional and rushing judgement does no good. We need to know what caused all of this and her to pull her firearm and what everyone saw/heard leading up to this to cause them to record etc.
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I want to see what happened before the sidearm.


Yep. The full parking lot surveillance footage should show what led up to it and will add context just like the longer video did. Something happened for the guy to be recording.

People getting on their high horse with no real idea of the full picture are hilarious. All of the footage available will be broken down frame by frame and hopefully there are witnesses that can fill in some of what was said.

Somebody needs to add her to this. Dude was probably high or drunk or maybe just stupid.

re: Red flags for people

Posted by SpartanSoul on 7/2/26 at 1:29 pm to
A Gay&M fan that picks "Roughneck" as his screen name.
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Pretty good field for this one


Will the park be providing their own chair to hold the replay monitor or will Peak bring old reliable?
356 degrees Fahrenheit equals 180 degrees Celsius.

So, the question is why in the hell are you eating commie tater tots, especially with the 4th coming up?

re: Manning Passing Academy 2026

Posted by SpartanSoul on 6/29/26 at 11:02 am to
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LSU QB doesn’t get a preferred invite to an elite QB camp. So elite QB camp is no longer elite. LOL
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No QB near the "elite level" is learning anything at MPA.

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1,300 campers are set to hone their skills at the four-day camp under the guidance of 120 coaches and 40 college quarterbacks.


Have you ever been there while the circus is running?

Gunga Din nailed it when he said:

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LOL. But that is the thing...

They have the college QBs there to sucker all those high school kid's parent's into sending their kids to the camp.


It is basically a football version of those cheer camps/competitions that are nothing more than a way to make the promoters/hosters like Disney etc. $$$$.

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I watched a Tenn Podcast and they said it was only 25k


"Allegedly"

The thing is we will never really know. It is not in their best interest to tell if it was more. And with NIL not coming directly from the school it would be easy to fudge in order to save a big booster some embarrassment.

re: Manning Passing Academy 2026

Posted by SpartanSoul on 6/27/26 at 1:15 pm to
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The better question for me has always been, why don’t they hold this thing at OM?


Nicholls State has better facilities. :lol: :lol:

And Thibodaux>Oxford. :bow: