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re: Trump Administration Used Potential Meeting to Pressure Ukraine on Biden, Texts Show
Posted on 10/4/19 at 2:27 am to davyjones
Posted on 10/4/19 at 2:27 am to davyjones
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So what do you suppose would happen if a sitting President murdered someone while in office?
this issue was discussed around that time. you would remove him from office and then prosecute.
Posted on 10/4/19 at 2:27 am to Rickdaddy4188
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it's very telling that you go straight to personal attacks for no reason. we dont share the same opinion. that doesnt mean I think or that you are stupid.
So no link cause you are embarrassed of your source. You have been low iq since forver so its not an insult flake
Posted on 10/4/19 at 2:27 am to Rickdaddy4188
quote:Nope. That was part of his opening statement, not part of his response to Mr. Lieu.
this is what he said right after that
Posted on 10/4/19 at 2:29 am to SDVTiger
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So no link cause you are embarrassed of your source. You have been low iq since forver so its not an insult flake
look it up yourself.
for the record my degree shits on yours.
look at the triggered cultist. do you need a safe space because someone doesnt think your deity is flawless?
Posted on 10/4/19 at 2:30 am to Rickdaddy4188
And why did this not happen in the case of the crimes of obstruction....given your prior statement "if he was anyone but the POTUS he would have been arrested for obstruction of justice"?
Posted on 10/4/19 at 2:31 am to Scruffy
you're right it was before but this only proves my point more.
RM was never going to say he committed a crime from the start.
RM was never going to say he committed a crime from the start.
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That statement was more in line with his report, and with his earlier opening statement to the Judiciary Committee, where he said, "Based on Justice Department policy and principles of fairness, we decided we would not make a determination as to whether the President committed a crime. That was our decision then and it remains our decision today."
Posted on 10/4/19 at 2:32 am to davyjones
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And why did this not happen in the case of the crimes of obstruction...
because you have to have the votes to remove him from office. they dont.
our side was never gonna vote Trump out for those statements.
Posted on 10/4/19 at 2:33 am to Rickdaddy4188
quote:The discussion with Mr. Lieu was in regards to using the OLC opinion.
you're right it was before but this only proves my point more.
Mueller recanted that statement which negates the entire exchange he had with Mr. Lieu.
Posted on 10/4/19 at 2:35 am to Rickdaddy4188
For the record.... I'm in no way for impeaching trump. he has done a decent job and probably deserves another term but that doesnt stop me from having issues with things he does. some of the things he has done would have me livid if a DEM President did it.
Posted on 10/4/19 at 2:38 am to Rickdaddy4188
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"I believe a reasonable person looking at these facts could conclude that all three elements of the crime of obstruction of justice have been met, and I'd like to ask you the reason, again, you did not indict Donald Trump is because of the OLC (the DOJ's Office of Legal Counsel) opinion stating that you cannot indict a sitting president, correct?" Lieu asked.
"That is correct," Mueller asked.
Mueller corrected that statement a few minutes later by saying
Before we go to questions, I want to add one correction to my testimony this morning," Mueller told the panel. "I want to go back to one thing that was said this morning by Mr. Lieu who said, and I quote, 'You didn't charge the president because of the OLC opinion.' That is not the correct way to say it. As we say in the report, and as I said at the opening, we did not reach a determination as to whether the president committed a crime."
Posted on 10/4/19 at 2:38 am to Scruffy
He didnt recant the DOJ policies and practices to not determine whether or not trump committed a crime.
Posted on 10/4/19 at 2:40 am to Loserman
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Mueller corrected that statement a few minutes later by saying
Before we go to questions, I want to add one correction to my testimony this morning," Mueller told the panel. "I want to go back to one thing that was said this morning by Mr. Lieu who said, and I quote, 'You didn't charge the president because of the OLC opinion.' That is not the correct way to say it. As we say in the report, and as I said at the opening, we did not reach a determination as to whether the president committed a crim
from the beginning RM was never going to make a determination o whether or not trump committed a crime.
it's the DOJ policies and practices.....
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That statement was more in line with his report, and with his earlier opening statement to the Judiciary Committee, where he said, "Based on Justice Department policy and principles of fairness, we decided we would not make a determination as to whether the President committed a crime. That was our decision then and it remains our decision today.
Posted on 10/4/19 at 2:41 am to Rickdaddy4188
done for the night fellas. enjoyed the back and forth.
Posted on 10/4/19 at 2:42 am to Rickdaddy4188
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our side was never gonna vote Trump out for those statements.
Not sure exactly which statement(s) you are referring to, but regardless, this appears to be a change in tune as far as Mueller indirectly concluding that Trump committed crimes, specifically obstruction. There was a tad bit of crowing from Dems that obstruction was a foregone conclusion. Such definitive statements would seem to be followed by "removal and prosecution".
Obstruction is a felony and Dems would eaten that up IF they had a strong enough case. They simply arent going to EVER give Trump a pass on even the most minor of crimes where sufficient evidence exists. The fact that they didn't "remove and prosecute" tells the whole story.
Posted on 10/4/19 at 2:44 am to davyjones
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Obstruction is a felony and Dems would eaten that up IF they had a strong enough case.
thankfully the dems dont have the votes to remove trump from office
Posted on 10/4/19 at 2:45 am to Rickdaddy4188
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done for the night fellas. enjoyed the back and forth.
Aw hell naw. But yeah, me too I reckon.
Posted on 10/4/19 at 2:46 am to Rickdaddy4188
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look it up yourself.
for the record my degree shits on yours.
look at the triggered cultist. do you need a safe space because someone doesnt think your deity is flawless?
This is just embarrassing
Posted on 10/4/19 at 2:48 am to Big Scrub TX
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Nah. I think impeachment is stupid (at least for those hoping to get Trump out.) But I really have been wondering all along what caused Pelosi to switch. She has been VERY against impeachment this whole time.
Perhaps because she was doing ads for a Ukraine Gas company her son was "involved" with?????? Ya think?
Posted on 10/4/19 at 3:27 am to Mickey Goldmill
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Impeachment inquiry is not made up lol. Look it up dude. It’s the first part of the process.
It’s the first part of an impeachment AFTER a VOTE on the house flooor.
Posted on 10/4/19 at 3:28 am to Big Scrub TX
Where are these text messages?
If it showed all of this it'd be all over the news
If it showed all of this it'd be all over the news
This post was edited on 10/4/19 at 3:28 am
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