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re: This is Nikki Haley's most cringeworthy and worst tweet ever; shows why and how GOP loses

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Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
34831 posts
Posted on 4/25/21 at 10:38 pm to
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To destroy our culture and our values. Which you propose abandoning


Worthwhile morals are self evident and do not require imposition, coercion, extortion or amphitheater seating.

Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
17651 posts
Posted on 4/25/21 at 10:38 pm to
Not that I was much of a Haley fan either way, but she lost me when she started using female pronouns to refer to a man dressed as a woman.

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Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 4/25/21 at 10:41 pm to
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Worthwhile morals are self evident


This assumption took us to where we are today, clown world.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
34831 posts
Posted on 4/25/21 at 10:42 pm to
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Actually cancel culture is good.

We need cancel culture for people like you who want surrender the battle of mores to the marxist left and globalists.

Cancel culture is the inevitable enforcement of mores. Some behavior, speech, etc should be considered unacceptable. Conservatives have simply deluded themselves into believing a morally neutral society is possible or desirable, quitting the field to the left.

We should want to cancel people who push woke ideology. We should want to cancel people who teach our children to hate their parents, their country, their ancestors and christianity.

Morally neutral, non cancel culture society is an impossibility, it has never existed in the United States or anywhere and never will, the closest thing would be anarchy.



Republicans tried this in the 80s/90s and it failed miserably and you could argue set up the commies for a perfect pad from which to launch their current divide and conquer strategy.

Further dividing your own party only helps the globalists.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26758 posts
Posted on 4/25/21 at 10:43 pm to
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Olsteen is a good example of the moral rot in organized religion


That’s when I knew he had no clue about religious conservatives.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26758 posts
Posted on 4/25/21 at 10:45 pm to
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Worthwhile morals are self evident

Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
34831 posts
Posted on 4/25/21 at 10:45 pm to
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his assumption took us to where we are today, clown world


You think progressives value results? Lulz.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
33782 posts
Posted on 4/25/21 at 10:52 pm to
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She was for statue removals


How she remained relevant after this is shocking. She’s no better than Mitch Landrieu
Posted by burdhead
WOMP WOMP!!
Member since Apr 2017
6008 posts
Posted on 4/26/21 at 6:05 am to
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They're like the Episcopal Church. The church leadership wanted desperately to be liked by modern people, and so they abandoned tradition, and killed the church.
Southern Baptists are doing the same thing. Fortunately, there are still many like my friend who is ready to split away from the SBC
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135067 posts
Posted on 4/26/21 at 6:18 am to
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In what reality is transgenderism conservative?
In the same reality that autism, anorexia, depression, bipolar disorder, schizophrenia, claustrophobia, etc. are conservative (or liberal). Gender dysphoria isn't conservative. It is not liberal. It is a mental disorder.

When someone gets their genitals surgically altered, they aren't playing footsie with cross-dressing and effeminism. They suffer perceptive dysmorphia in the same way an anorexic looks in the mirror and sees a fat person. It is a rare, but real and significant problem.

In severe instances, like Jenner, it was simply an unfortunate fact of his existence. It was as unchangeable for him as other genetic predispositions are for the rest of us. The question is whether ostracisation is the proper response.

IMO differences with progs should not reside in tolerance of those truly afflicted. It should reside in not forcing transgenderism on preadolescent kids. Teaching transgenderism and forcing it on prepubescent kids is not conservative. It is "progressive" whereas it should be criminal. That is a bright line between progressives and others.

Likewise, the forcing of women to allow strange men into their public restrooms, showers and dressing rooms is considered "progressive". It should be considered criminal.

The forcing of females to compete athletically against males under auspices of "inclusion", actually "excludes" women who would otherwise enjoy thrills of victory, achievement, and the life-lessons and confidence those results might bring. It is antifemale, and progressive.

An assignment of "racism" based on solely on the fact one's skin color is white, and one's hair color is blonde, is not only classically ironical, it is progressive.

Such areas of low-hanging are the ones we need to pursue.
Posted by TS1926
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
7391 posts
Posted on 4/26/21 at 6:41 am to
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without the zealots the gop only has the rich


Oh I didn’t realize Gates, Beezos and all of Silicon Valley are Republicans? Look at the too 5% most affluent communities in America? Republican? I think not.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 4/26/21 at 8:20 am to
The SBC wasn’t popular here, there just weren’t many Baptists. I think the only reason I knew what it was, because of national media coverage, which was always very negative, if not cruel.

I was shocked to hear how it had changed.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
124713 posts
Posted on 4/26/21 at 8:22 am to
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Saved for when Trump endorses Jenner and your brain has to kick into overdrive trying to rationalize the situation.


Are you new here? Sentrius won’t justify that.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
85764 posts
Posted on 4/26/21 at 8:40 am to
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There is a crap ton to show what a fake neocon Neocon Nikki is but this isn't one of them.

She was for statue removals, she is a pandering true democrat priss like Romney. I cannot stand Neocon Nikki.

But embracing Caitlyn doesn't bother me at all.

I don't dislike tranny's or gays. I dislike marxists that want globalism.

The LGBTQ community can be just that. As long as it ends here and doesn't move onto any pedo or bestiality fetish.

I am a Christian and don't care what other people do in their bedrooms as long as they don't trash the biological common families.


I think this is a dicey question for this moment, because it centers on the biggest battleground in the culture war - being made to tell lies either with the threat of punishment or some dangling carrot. On one hand, I agree, I don't care if someone wants to portray themselves as the other gender so long as it doesn't require me to lie about reality to accommodate it.

But therein lies the rub. Embracing trans folks will usually lead to that moment, wherein you have to either embrace the lie or alienate the person. Ultimately I think the modest gains of bringing some trans people into the movement are undermined by normalizing the idea that 2+2=5.

To be clear, I don't think this means you need to go out of your way to be an a-hole. I'm not going to purposefully call you a guy over and over, but I'm not going to legitimately act like you're an actual female, either. I'll probably treat you like a kid who thinks he's an astronaut TBH. "Awesome spaceship buddy" etc.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86254 posts
Posted on 4/26/21 at 8:41 am to
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What is the problem with this pic?
Yeah, I don't get this thread.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
47785 posts
Posted on 4/26/21 at 8:57 am to
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I don’t have issues with Bruce running as a conservative


Nor I - the existential problem we have in America today is the avalanche of marxism headed our way.

Anyone who can help divert that onslaught in any appreciable way is OK in my book - I don't care if they sit or stand to piss. Don't even care who they sleep with - as long as that weirdness is the not a significant part of their campaign.

All I want is a chance for America to once again become the nation it was before LBJ 'had JFK killed'.

OK - that italics part is my mindset anytime I even thing of LBJ - mea culpa.

But I will always believe it. My grandpa was telling me that back in the 40's/50's
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
47785 posts
Posted on 4/26/21 at 9:01 am to
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In what reality is transgenderism conservative?
In the same reality that autism, anorexia, depression, bipolar disorder, schizophrenia, claustrophobia, etc. are conservative (or liberal). Gender dysphoria isn't conservative. It is not liberal. It is a mental disorder.

When someone gets their genitals surgically altered, they aren't playing footsie with cross-dressing and effeminism. They suffer perceptive dysmorphia in the same way an anorexic looks in the mirror and sees a fat person. It is a rare, but real and significant problem.

In severe instances, like Jenner, it was simply an unfortunate fact of his existence. It was as unchangeable for him as other genetic predispositions are for the rest of us. The question is whether ostracisation is the proper response.

IMO differences with progs should not reside in tolerance of those truly afflicted. It should reside in not forcing transgenderism on preadolescent kids. Teaching transgenderism and forcing it on prepubescent kids is not conservative. It is "progressive" whereas it should be criminal. That is a bright line between progressives and others.

Likewise, the forcing of women to allow strange men into their public restrooms, showers and dressing rooms is considered "progressive". It should be considered criminal.

The forcing of females to compete athletically against males under auspices of "inclusion", actually "excludes" women who would otherwise enjoy thrills of victory, achievement, and the life-lessons and confidence those results might bring. It is antifemale, and progressive.

An assignment of "racism" based on solely on the fact one's skin color is white, and one's hair color is blonde, is not only classically ironical, it is progressive.

Such areas of low-hanging are the ones we need to pursue




One of the best synopses I have seen -
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6-- the Brazos River Valley
Member since Sep 2015
30463 posts
Posted on 4/26/21 at 9:01 am to
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Posted by Craig86
Florida
Member since Oct 2012
1878 posts
Posted on 4/26/21 at 9:03 am to
Honestly if Republicans dropped all the religious nonsense they would never lose another election. Tying themselves to anti gay, anti abortion, etc has doomed them. It’s the economy stupid.
Posted by Titan
Member since Apr 2008
2477 posts
Posted on 4/26/21 at 9:03 am to
just look at those hands
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