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re: The Harriet Tubman legend is literally a myth invented by 2 Communist writers

Posted on 2/7/26 at 3:04 pm to
Posted by mwrawls
Member since May 2022
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Posted on 2/7/26 at 3:04 pm to
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Every narrative around black people is about how they are oppressed, even when remembering their own "greatness." Perpetual victimhood is always at the forefront as part of the marxist strategy.


Yep. They don't actually want to empower young black men and women to be fathers and mothers and to be productive members of society. They want black people to be divided, angry, and kept in the dark and lied to about their own capabilities and potential for greatness and to keep blaming white people for all of their struggles and problems.

I'm at the point that I dislike anything I ever hear about "oppression" or sustained victimhood. We shouldn't be talking about that and, instead, should be focusing on what people can do to better themselves and bring themselves out of oppression or remaining victims.

I've found that the best way to keep someone a victim and dependent on you is to focus on their own lack of ability and power and make them focus their anger and effort at someone else - meanwhile telling them the whole entire time that nothing bad that happens to them is their fault and that they are all special, unique snowflakes who are perfect little angels.

It's just a mechanism of control, plain and simple.
Posted by Zap Rowsdower
MissLou, La
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 2/7/26 at 3:08 pm to
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Now do Rosa Parks.


Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
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Posted on 2/7/26 at 3:25 pm to
Harriet Tubman was a real person, and abolitionist. Accounts of her freeing hundreds of slaves are probably overstated. It's probable the real numer drops into the mid to high double digits. That is still extraordinary.

Is her contribution extraordinary enough to warrant her being the face on a $20 bill as the most important Black person in US history? No, not remotely.
Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 2/7/26 at 3:32 pm to
Are we confusing Uncle Tom's Cabin by Harriet Beecher Stowe which was a work of fiction vs Harriet Tubman who like Lincoln has been the fixation of myth making and propaganda over time?
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
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Posted on 2/7/26 at 3:35 pm to
uh... most information comes directly from Harriet Tubman's recollections.

They were published in 1868.

https://docsouth.unc.edu/neh/bradford/bradford.html

This is no better than the 1619 project trying to rewrite the past.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 2/7/26 at 3:40 pm to
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Every

Heckin

Time
Before I even clicked.
Posted by stelly1025
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Posted on 2/7/26 at 3:58 pm to
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 2/7/26 at 4:03 pm to
Her husband had a car!!
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 2/7/26 at 4:07 pm to
Communism given rise with World War I

Harriet Tubman was about a century before this, and Pre War of Northern Aggression.

Only a matter of time before Charlie Chaplin battled the UN on dinosaurs becomes the revisionist history.

Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
12219 posts
Posted on 2/7/26 at 4:11 pm to
The amount of half truths and outright lies in ‘black history’ is staggering. They should just focus on people who actually did things instead of trying to create something that really didn’t happen.
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 2/7/26 at 4:16 pm to
That may be eye opening
Posted by Roaad
White Privilege Broker
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Posted on 2/7/26 at 4:16 pm to
He's right
This post was edited on 2/7/26 at 4:17 pm
Posted by Roaad
White Privilege Broker
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 2/7/26 at 4:20 pm to
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most information comes directly from Harriet Tubman's recollections.

No it doesn't

Most of what you know about Tubman never happened, and Harriet never claimed it happened

Here is what AI had to say:

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Scenes in the Life of Harriet Tubman, written by Sarah H. Bradford and published in 1869, is a foundational text that helped shape the mythic image of Harriet Tubman as a heroic, almost superhuman figure. While the book is based on Tubman’s own words—she narrated her life story to Bradford—it is not a straightforward biography. Bradford wrote the book in haste, under time pressure before moving to Europe, resulting in a disjointed narrative that reads more like a collection of anecdotes than a chronological account. The book was also compiled and edited by the printer, William J. Moses, after Bradford left, meaning fewer than half the pages were written by her.

The myth surrounding Tubman grew significantly from this text. Bradford portrayed Tubman as a modern-day Moses, endowed with spiritual visions, immense courage, and near-legendary strength. She emphasized Tubman’s use of a revolver to compel fearful escapees to continue north ("dead **** tell no tales"), and her singing of coded songs like “Go Down Moses” and “Bound for the Promised Land” to signal safety—both elements that became central to the myth. However, modern historians question the accuracy of these portrayals. For instance, the claim that Tubman rescued 300 slaves is widely considered an exaggeration; abolitionist Thomas Garrett estimated she freed only 60 to 80 people over 13 trips.

Further myths include Tubman singing “Follow the Drinking Gourd” or “Swing Low, Sweet Chariot” as signals—both songs were written decades after her death. The bounty on her head was likely $200–$300, not the often-cited $40,000, which is implausible given the era’s economics. The fictional character Gideon in the 2019 film Harriet is not based on real events, though the real Tubman was pursued after escaping.

In essence, Scenes in the Life of Harriet Tubman created a powerful, inspirational narrative that elevated Tubman to icon status—but at the cost of historical nuance. The book helped raise funds for Tubman in her later years and cemented her legacy, but it also contributed to a mythologized version of her life that overshadows her real humanity, struggles, and the complex network of people who aided her. As historian Tiya Miles notes, the myth can obscure the reality: Tubman was a real woman, born into slavery, who suffered trauma, lived with chronic illness from a childhood head injury, and relied on a vast, often unsung network of allies to survive and liberate others.
This post was edited on 2/7/26 at 4:26 pm
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 2/7/26 at 4:31 pm to
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SallysHuman


Speaking of myths, the creator of the “Pledge Of Allegiance” was an avowed socialist. Look up the Bellamy Salute and see what you find.

Our nation’s founders would have found pledging eternal allegiance to a flag an abhorrent act. The Constitution never would have been ratified if the sovereign and independent states knew it would be transmogrified into a compact unto death.

“However strong a Government may be, it cannot easily escape from the consequences of a principle which it has once admitted as the foundation of its Constitution. The Union was formed by the voluntary agreement of the states; and these, in uniting together, have not forfeited their nationality, nor have they been reduced to the condition of one and the same people. If one of the states chooses to withdraw from the compact, it would be difficult to disapprove its right of doing so, and the Federal Government would have no means of maintaining its claims directly either by force or right.”Alexis de Tocqueville: Democracy in America.


This post was edited on 2/7/26 at 4:37 pm
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 2/7/26 at 4:36 pm to
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The amount of half truths and outright lies in ‘black history’ is staggering.
Truly, from the light bulb guy (they got Biden to go along with that one) to the dryer guy, the refrigeration guy, the traffic light guy. It's all bullshite.

But, when they've genocided us all, they'll just say it's true and it will become true.
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Now do Rosa Parks.
Also orchestrated by jewish communists.
Posted by blueridgeTiger
Granbury, TX
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 2/7/26 at 4:41 pm to
When do we get her $20 bill?
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
21849 posts
Posted on 2/7/26 at 4:45 pm to
I looked up why is BHM so full of exaggerated mythological heroes….

It said it was necessary to balance out negative stereotypes. Basically.

They call it “therapeutic mythology”.

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Black history figures are sometimes portrayed with exaggerated, myth-like narratives to counteract deep-seated stereotypes of inferiority, building a "therapeutic mythology" that boosts self-esteem and asserts shared humanity.


Fine, whatever… but they teach this crap as fact in public schools. Ridiculous.

Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
21849 posts
Posted on 2/7/26 at 4:45 pm to
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When do we get her $20 bill?


Put her on the penny.
Posted by Marciano1
Marksville, LA
Member since Jun 2009
20044 posts
Posted on 2/7/26 at 4:51 pm to
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Now do Rosa Parks.

Rosa Parks ain't do nothin but sit her black arse down.
Eddie from Barbershop (2002)
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
65554 posts
Posted on 2/7/26 at 4:51 pm to
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They call it “therapeutic mythology”.

That's fricking insane.
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Fine, whatever… but they teach this crap as fact in public schools. Ridiculous.

Yeah, and when they get rid of enough of us and we're living in some marxist, Bazilified shithole, it will become 'fact.'

That's why it exists, not fricking 'therapy.'
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