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Good Lord ! Too much plain stupidity to try & respond to. But....just a quicky. Widely known & stated that Iran has always been the monetary & military backer of Hamas. This is not "per FOX". It's common knowledge. By sane people, anyway..

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Good Lord ! Too much plain stupidity to try & respond to. But....just a quicky. Widely known & stated that THE CIA has always been the monetary & military backer of MILITANT SUNNI ISLAM. THOUGH LARGELY IGNORED BY THE LEFT AND RIGHT MEDIA ESTABLISHMENT. It's common knowledge. By sane people, anyway..

FIFY!

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Lincoln

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What President waged a war that was overwhelmingly unpopular in the nation’s largest urban cities?

What President unleashed combat troops from the battlefield to assault citizen protestors in New York City?

What President unilaterally suspended the writ of habeas corpus and arrested thousands of private citizens in the dark of night and held them in political prison camps?

What President ignored a Supreme Court Justice’s ruling that the suspension of the writ of habeas corpus was unConstitutional and should be reinstated?

What president had a newspaper editor arrested for criticizing the suspension of the writ of habeas corpus?

What President had a sitting member of Congress arrested for criticizing the suspension of the writ of habeas corpus?

What President had his soldiers bombard and destroy newspaper buildings and newspaper printing plants that were critical of the war effort or even dared questioned the President’s policies?

What President was involved in telegraphic censorship of newspapers critical of the President’s policies?

What President declared he would abandon the U.S. Constitution to save the Union?

What President said he cared not in freeing the slaves but only in saving the Union?

What President is uniformly hailed by the leaders of the bipartisan Uniparty® as one of the greatest Presidents ever for “saving the Union?”

Lincoln would love the Deep State.

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Low IQ inbred sheep trained from birth to hate da Joos.

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FWIW, I have said on this forum repeatedly that if Israel wants to power up their armored bulldozer battalion and push Hamas into the sea, more power to them. What I oppose is another U.S. sponsored regime change operation in the Middle East. This is NOT what was promised.

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I cheer for the CIA in Iran only with the hope they can help the Persians cast off their Muslim oppressors.

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The overwhelming majority of Iranians are Muslim.

Putting that aside, the Iranian people can partially thank the CIA for the Iranian Revolution.

I periodically repost this book review and Trump’s SOTU speech tonight is as good a day as any to do so again…



The Great Game: America’s Long & Disastrous Foreign Policy Agenda In The Middle East:

Iran looks to be the biggest loser in the latest turmoil to rock the Middle East. Yet tragically, Iran’s current Revolutionary State is in many ways a reaction and lasting legacy of past American interventionism in the region. How so?

Recommended reading: America's Great Game: The CIA's Secret Arabists and the Shaping of the Modern Middle East by Hugh Wilford.

This book of deep history focuses primarily on three CIA agents and their regime change efforts in three countries after WWII: Syria, Egypt and Iran. The key figure that emerges in this narrative is Kermit “Kim” Roosevelt — grandson of Theodore. Roosevelt was recruited into the newly created Central Intelligence Agency to head the Office of Policy Coordination, the espionage and counter-intelligence branch of the CIA.

A rather complicated chess game of competing powers in the newly formed CIA emerges — the Zionists vs. the anti-Zionists. And what a wicked game it was. Wilford illustrates how these agent provocateurs were very short sighted in their schemes and largely viewed the indigenous populations of the Middle Eastern nations as simple pawns in a larger chess game between the Great Powers.

These CIA wunderkinds with blue-blood pedigrees viewed the nation states in the post-colonial era as blank slates to be shaped at will by their supposed knowledge and intellect. Yet rather than fundamentally transform power relations in the Middle East to pro-American sentiment as promised, this spy clique of the Eastern Establishment inculcated a residual and generational resentment toward American meddling in the region that is still evident today.

Along with Roosevelt, Miles Copeland — a Birmingham Alabama native and the father of the famed rock musician Stewart — is another CIA spook who was instrumental in shaping the Middle Eastern landscape after the end of WWII. Copeland helped orchestrate the first CIA military coup in the region: a 1949 bloodless putsch in Syria. The CIA installed Husni al-Za’im, a former Kurdish officer in the Ottoman Army.

Kim Roosevelt, along with assistance from his cousin Archibald Roosevelt, in turn masterminded the 1953 Iranian coup d'état which toppled nationalist prime minister Mohammed Mosaddeqh after Mosaddeqh nationalized the petroleum industry in Iran.

Archibald Roosevelt in turn orchestrated a second 1956 regime change operation in Syria after a violent counter-coup displaced the al-Za’im regime. This second regime change operation in Syria and the ensuing instability ultimately helped push Syria closer to the USSR.

This was a repeated pattern. The CIA’s initial backing of Egyptian General Mohamed Naguib — and his young protege General Gamal Abdel Nasser — likewise backfired when Nasser ousted his elder benefactor, turned his back on the West and nationalized the Suez Canal.

As a tweak to the West, Nasser also opened diplomatic channels to the Soviet Union and supported the creation of a socialist pan-Arabic State. And of course, we all know the results of the festering resentment over the installation of the Shah that ultimately resulted in the Iranian revolution.

Whether it was braggadocio, naïveté or misplaced idealism, the failures of these nation building efforts shaped the modern Middle East that we know today. Sadly, this “game” continues anew. The same doublespeak and false promises spew forth from the mouths of these Masters of the Universe types in our corrupt national security apparatus.

Perhaps it was possible at one time to posit that the chaos and violent fury released upon the region after the Iraq War was an unforeseen contingency. Yet we have now seen a succession of four Middle Eastern nations — Iraq, Libya, Yemen and now Syria — engulfed in violence and human catastrophe after US, NATO and Western military intervention. And now these Masters of the Universe want a war with Iran?

Not coincidentally, each of these repeated military interventions have been followed by a staggering refugee wave headed for Europe. Yet in the name of pluralism, Western nations are sternly lectured by many of these same ruling elites that it must open their borders to a deluge of immigrants whose values are wholly alien to pluralistic societies and must instead welcome these immigrants though many have demonstrated violent antagonism toward free societies?

At this late stage, naïveté can’t be blamed for these repeated failures. It is indeed sheer madness to claim the situation in the Middle East is all an unforeseen accident. The pattern is established and is crystal clear for anyone who doesn’t regurgitate Deep State talking points. The minute details and the exact coordination of the plan becomes irrelevant when the larger pattern is so clear: chaos — the more violent the better — is the goal of these repeated regime change operations.

We can’t change the past. But must we be doomed to repeat it? Endlessly on a loop? :dunno:



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To end the financing of terrorism all over the world.

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So the CIA is going to target itself?

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So we only defend poor and innocent people in places with large oil deposits.

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Certainly those whose regimes challenge the supremacy of the U$D and/or threaten Israel. Anyone who thinks anyone in Langley gives one rat’s @ss about the Mullahs suppressing their people are smoking meth.

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Afraid to help good people?

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The problem here is the CIA is not good people.

Not surprising.

The failed War On Drugs® itself empowered the cartels just as prohibition empowered the mafia.

By criminalizing a high-demand product, the government created incentives for illicit markets to flourish, ultimately strengthening the very criminal organizations it sought to dismantle.

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Its an idealogy, not a plan.

This is why no one takes this seriously, because even the proponents refuse to do the work involved in anything more than an abstract way.

Plus they reject all half steps.

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Do you realize that Friedrich A. Hayek was one of the foremost free-market economists of the twentieth century? Hayek’s proposal for a commodity based reserve currency was not an abstract thought experiment; it was a serious and practical monetary reform advanced by a serious and highly respected scholar.

Though it did not include detailed legislative drafting on how to transition to the plan, Hayek’s idea of a basket of commodities was a concrete proposal that outlined the institutional mechanics on how to implement it. Hayek further fully addressed the primary problems we are now facing as a nation under our present monetary system.

Hayek’s broader monetary critique directly addressed the structural weaknesses of fiat currency and central banking. Hayek correctly criticized central banks for their manipulation of interest rates and the resulting disruption of market signals.

Such centralized planning necessarily leads to systematic misallocation of resources, recurring boom-bust cycles, and long-term economic instability. Hayek ultimately warned that persistent monetary centralization threatens not only economic stability but the institutional foundations of a free society itself.

A commodity based reserve currency was just one of Friedrich Hayek’s remedies against the ill effects of central banking. Later in his career, Friedrich Hayek proposed that governments should end their monopoly over the money supply and allow private institutions to issue competing currencies.

Hayek was in good stead with his criticism of central banking. Thomas Jefferson was likewise leery of central banking:

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What war are we in in the ME?

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We have been in a near constant state of war in the Middle East since at least the First Gulf War.

US military reports a series of airstrikes against Islamic State targets in Syria…

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Thats a slogan, not a plan.

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Freedom from the tyranny imposed upon us by the Federal Reserve most certainly is a plan. Central banking is a coercive, inflationary mechanism that monopolizes money creation, distorts the market and undermines individual liberty by transferring wealth from savers to the state.

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Sure, but there is no actually thought out plan for something different.

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There are plenty of alternatives that do not involve a massive Central Bank that requires a sprawling global military footprint to enforce it’s hegemony. A return to the Gold Standard would be a tremendous improvement over the inherently inflationary policies of the Federal Reserve.

Yet for those worried over pegging our currency to a single commodity, offering a basket of commodities is another free market based solution to replacing our nation’s inherently inflationary fiat currency. This was a proposal of F.A. Hayek: