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Hey nitwit, why isn't a search engine AI? Why isn't AI agentic? Will more "training" of current AI models render them agentic? Got it?
You don't even know how dumb that is, every one of your questions is ignorant.
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You misinterpreted a post, then prematurely jumped to assumptions and invectives. Subsequently, you cried about "bait and switch" with no cognizance as to the underlying assertion.
Sad you resorted to lying.
You tried to bait and switch by discussing the human brain.
Bad lie, you should be ashamed.
Love the admission that your only way to argue is to lie.
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Sober up. If you want to discuss it further tomorrow, I'll be happy to reengage
More lies?
That's what you have coming? Another hundred posts of attempts to find somehow to pretend that you were not a fool?
Is your ego that fragile?
Are you that on the cusp of personal feelings of worthlessness that you have to lie on the internet?
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What do they do? What is ths .... ?? code ??
So this is where you are clueless, the attention layer is what is used during training to create the weights, the same attention layer trained on different sets of data will produce completely different answers.
The vast majority of all AI models use the same basic software in different configurations.
Training is what produces the answer that you complain about.
It's like you clicking on a song on youtube, not liking it, and then claiming the "programmers" are out to get you lol
I may be mocking your ego, but I am willing to teach you lol
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Who did I "prompt" for a picture, nitwit?
I guess you can't even prompt, too hard it seems...
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You appear to be Illiterate, drunk or high. You either don't understand what you're reading or are too altered to assimilate it.
Look, you said something moronic, and it may hurt you to realize this, but it's not in the programming, it's your specific prompt getting the most aligned output of the training data.
You have always been free to turn on the various ways to save context, but without that it has no ability to remember prior conversations.
And unless you specifically ask it to remember it won't, and if you do, it will.
I even showed you where you could set it.
Have I dumbed it down enough for you?
Would you like me to give you an up vote so you feel better?
Or does grandma still think the VCR is watching her.
:lol:
Yes, fundamentally you can't even figure out how to get a general tool to save a memory.
You keep fundamentally misusing and misunderstanding terms in a field you just don't comprehend.
But yes, you can prompt for a picture.
Good job, so proud of you.
You've obviously given up on your nonsense about
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I hope you've learned something.
You keep fundamentally misusing and misunderstanding terms in a field you just don't comprehend.
But yes, you can prompt for a picture.
Good job, so proud of you.
You've obviously given up on your nonsense about
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"Google is lying, of course, because it is in the programming."
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I hope you've learned something.
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Ok I’m starting to reject some of his arguments. I presume this is simply a product of what was trending at the time but I find emphasis on sex, the anus, genitals to be boring and unenlightening.
He was professor of the year at Berkley for a reason.
If you read it at 19 it comes off very different than 2 decades plus later lol.
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and you have no clue as to what separates non-agentic AI from agentic AI ... it is not "training." It is ... wait for it ... programming. Even if the latter simply involves something as simple as removing programmed guardrails. If you are in the field, and did not understand that, I don't know what to tell you. If you aren't, it explains your inept responses.
You are sooo stupid lol.
It's cute, you deeply out of your depth saying things you don't understand.
Keep going.
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You'd do far better assessing what you do, or do not, understand, than assuming what I know. Don't assume, address what you yourself know.
Assuming?
It's obvious how little you know on this topic.
Let's break down where you lost the plot.
Wikipedia has a good summary
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Computer programming or coding is the composition of sequences of instructions, called programs, that computers can follow to perform tasks. It involves designing and implementing algorithms, step-by-step specifications of procedures, by writing code in one or more programming languages. Programmers typically use high-level programming languages that are more easily intelligible to humans than machine code, which is directly executed by the central processing unit.
We the developers write the code (programming) that creates the attention layer, that is something we control.
Different people then take that set of instructions and feed whatever data they want into it. No programming involved, just point the developed model at a set of data and go. it's like you telling YouTube which song to play next, or your computer which video game to load.
The model then creates a massive set of weights that are the resultant matrices.
That is training a model.
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/glossary/ai-training/
They are not the same, they have never been the same, they are functionally different.
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AI response is severely limited by the sources it is programmed to access, and those it is not.
You keep using the word programmed, but models are just given data, you don't write lines of code that say go explicitly here, maybe in a college class, but not at a Google/OpenAI/Anthropic level.
Again, the same model can be trained for different purposes by different people without "programming" anything.
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In so far as prompting an LLM, I've described exactly that in other posts .. and this one. The prompts issued in this instance led to an AI "apology" for the previous and illogical response.
This is because you don't know what you are doing or describing.
Depending on which model you are using, if you are working directly from google search it has no idea what you said previously.
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When enabled, memory helps ChatGPT automatically remember useful context from your chats, files, and connected apps to personalize your experience, so you don’t have to repeat yourself as often.
Memory controls are available in Settings > Personalization > Memory. You can choose to enable or disable memory at any time.
In google Gemini it's
https://gemini.google.com/saved-info
As I mentioned before there are specific ways (assuming you have the settings on) to get it to remember.
It's as easy as saying "Remember that..."
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Training, independent of computer programming, implies programming has reached independent agentic or even sentient levels. If not, training is a programming component
It's painful to see you struggle.
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AI training is the computational process of teaching an AI model to recognize patterns and logic within data. It transforms raw information like text, code, or images into intelligence, enabling the AI to perform tasks it wasn't explicitly programmed for-such as reasoning, problem-solving, and content generation.
I'm fine with you struggling with this for another dozen pages searching for a gotcha.
But you sound really really ignorant and out of your depth.
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Can a human mind be programmed?
Ooh bait and switch!
Just remember this moment.
Because you have no idea how an LLM works yet told yourself that you do.
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Grandparents on my mother's side were Volga Germans that had to escape the Bolsheviks (for America) but didn't do so until after losing a child to starvation. They lost another child on the long "road" to America. They had 11 kids total. My grandpa laid rail in the Dakotas until his back gave up on him. My uncles and aunts ran the gamut - most rose from their beginnings and found success/greater wealth, a few struggled their whole life economically and with alcohol. I think it's a fairly common story for late 19th century/early 20th century immigrants.
One thing the whole family had, however, was a deep appreciation for America and what it meant to be a citizen. To my grandpa, bringing the family to America was his greatest accomplishment and he was forever grateful. He struggled with English, struggled physically an unskilled laborer, struggled to make ends meet - but that dude would have starved himself before taking anything being offered by the government in the way of assistance.
Hard times build great men.
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As my family has talked about "us" and remembered our history, I've got to say that which generation (as in silent, boomer, etc) everyone fit in never came up. It was only when I started participating in these threads (2020/Covid) that I saw so much made of generations. I always considered it more a family evolution thing - like for my family - my grandparents sacrificed a lot to became Americans, which made it better/easier for their kids, and the next generation of kids (mine) had it better/easier, and the next generation (my kids) had it better/easier.
I agree that it varies with families, conservative families will pass down family values longer than liberal ones.
But to that point, the North East has been a hotbed of liberalism since long before Woodstock.
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That's why it's fascinating to see so many young people complaining about their lot in life. It's hard to argue, if you're being factual/realistic, that life doesn't get better and easier over time for Americans and it's odd (to me) that so many will do somersaults in logic to feel aggrieved.
Agreed, my uncle lives in government housing where his life is basically paid for (SSDI/SSI) and he can do anything he wants (He's in his mid 70s).
He never got married, never held a job for long, and still thinks "Reagan was terrible".
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OF COURSE THEY ARE!
WTF do you think ""training"" is?
LOL you obviously have no idea what you are talking about.
Pontificating from a place of complete ignorance.
You can't even figure how to prompt a LLM and you are insisting that that programming and training are the same thing.
Whatever kind of a medical person you are, when people come into your office saying things they don't understand, remember this moment.
Because that's 100% you right now.
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They also tend to confirm what you're looking for. If you ask google if tigerdroppings is racist it's likely to look for reasons to confirm that suspicion.
Yup, partially because initial prompts the companies put in to make customers like them, but also partially because people tend to confirm each other and that winds up in the training data.
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It does as it is programmed.
Large language models arent programmed, they are trained.
There are default prompts that it holds internal, depending on how you are using it and it'll its linked to an account, you can store context and model behavior for your preferred communication.
There is an over and underhyped field of prompt engineering that allows persistence.
Is this from a default Google search or from a account on Gemini, Claude or GPT?
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Well then, by all means, ask it the same question and see. I've looked at this in the past. The response is a lie, guaranteed.
I fully agree it will say that and not do it.
My point is more that it is unaware that it is promising to do something.
There are only a few ways to actually get models to store user specific information.
I guess a better example would be someone who speaks zero English but just watched a manager say dont worry I'll take care of it to an angry customer.
And then when someone yells at him he says dont worry I'll take care of it.
He doesn't know what he's saying.
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I will ensure that limitation is clear in future analysis.
Actually it's not even lying, it's read a million lines of apologies and it sees that that is how an apology ends.
It's like hitting the I'm sorry button, nothing after the start means anything other than... this usually follows.
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So much of it gets eaten up by the systems that administer AID. We could have saved trillions and actually solved poverty if we just went to direct payments instead of "services"
LOL
Ok you do the math, you have 52 Trillion to spread among 340 million people.
It's almost entirely in the stock market.
How much do the 340 million people get each, and when they stop working and prices rise who do you start to shoot?
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Isn't that true of all sorts of cohorts? The northeast and the south a very different places with very different cultures.
Very much so, I only have one line of family that goes back before the Civil war.
Most of my family is 1880s-1920 immigrants from Europe.
Italians, Germans, Irish, English.
Their kids lived through the great depression, one of my grandparents was in an orphanage for years. These were tough people. Grandfather and multiple great uncles who served during WWII/Korea, 2x Great Grandfathers WWI. We used to have family reunions of hundreds of people.
But,
One of my grandfathers was a communist, (The card carrying type in the 1930s and 1940s), two of my uncles (his kids) dodged the draft for Vietnam, (also had a cousin get a purple heart in Vietnam, so not all bad apples)
But that service to God, family and country that the older generation had is totally missing from my parents generation, my parents are two of the most conservative (and poorer) people of their generation in their family, many of the rest have had divorces/affairs, went to hippy music festivals, chased wealth over family, and generally acted like the kind of selfish people who don't take care of their kids. My dad would have been there except he found Jesus.
My wife's family was quite different, in good and bad ways.
But overall her family, the boomer generation are very family oriented, in my case it was the greatest and silents.
The north definitely led the path to normalizing a self centered view of happiness.
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That would explain the periodic trends and urges toward socialism.
Fundamentally Socialism is about envy and guilt.
The poor envy what the rich have (Rightfully or wrongly can be debated), and the rich feel guilt about why their lives are better, especially the generations that didn't earn it/only inherited it.
I just find it hard to believe that it needs more than one of the most fundamental drives known to man to say I want what they have.
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Maybe we could relive our childhood freedom if we didn’t have to spend so much mental and physical energy of the act of survival?
Do you think socialism would give you a better life than you have now?
The 52 Trillion held by the top 1% only comes out to around $150k per person.
Assuming you took every dollar in one shot, that's not per year.
Sure $600k sounds good for a family of 4, but much of that wealth is held in stock, it would collapse if people pulled it out, and it would need to last a lifetime.
If people didn't work, inflation would eat that in a heartbeat.
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According to the Heritage Foundation, “The average poor family with children already receives $65,200 in cash, food, housing, medical care, and educational support from the taxpayer each year.”
Probably gone up to $76k
https://www.heritage.org/welfare/report/largest-welfare-increase-us-history-will-boost-government-support-76400-poor-family
Fundamentally there is no money for any of us to not work, you have to hope Elon wins his dystopian future of robot slaves.
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or you guys just weird AF
Nailed it.
My family of northern Boomers are far far different than her family of southern boomers.
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re: I asked Google if TigerDroppings is racist. Here’s their answer
Posted by Narax on 7/5/26 at 3:07 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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it has a long-standing reputation for hosting a large volume of racist, sexist, and homophobic commentary.
Ask for sources!
DAMN
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a Baton Rouge police union fired its treasurer over racist comments he posted on the platform.
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PESTICIDE, re: 70%, 80% of deaths of COVID19 in Milwaukee, Chicago are African Americans
Posted: 4/8/20
"I can attest that I have been in my fair share of black homes and let me just say this. The overwhelming majority have really bad hygiene and cleanliness issues... What can you expect from a group that needs constant oiling to cut down on the ashy-ness."
PESTICIDE, re: What happened to the chick fil a on college?
Posted: 6/17/19
"I love the one in Denham.... Kids in Denham have some pride and manners unlike the s*** birds in Baton Rouge.... Thank God for the Amite River. Natural barrier to keep the trash out. That and some people can't swim."
PESTICIDE, re: White people are still raised to be racially illiterate
Posted: 9/16/18
"My old man taught me don't be like them, get off your a** and go to work. So yeah, I was raised in racism. Worked out pretty good so far."
PESTICIDE, re: Would you rather live under Hitler or Stalin?
Posted: 3/6/20
"Hitler. I'm German so I'm good."
PESTICIDE, re: 94 year old Tennessee man deported
Posted: 3/6/20
"...While I seriously empathize for those who died in the concentration camps, it's been long past due for the survivors to move on from it. WWII was 75 years ago, quit holding on to the past."
PESTICIDE, re: WYHI: Soon-to-be Supreme North Korea Leader edition
Posted: 4/26/20
"Koreans smell like garlic and I don't mean a light scent either. It's like they bathed in it, brushed their teeth with it then washed their mouth out with garlic. Anyone who's been to Korea can verify that."
PESTICIDE, re: 4 of the top 10 cities in the US for burglary are in Louisiana
Posted: 8/13/18
"BR representing #8. F*** I hate this town. It's like the brown stain around the toilet bowl, no matter how hard you try it's never getting clean. They could blow torch this town and the turds would still float to the top."
PESTICIDE, re: Minneapolis police kneels on man neck until he dies- Cops fired
Posted 5/28/20
"...I can show you plenty of neighborhoods where it started as a one race majority, then it was integrated, then went to complete s***. These neighborhoods aren't the melting pot you think they are. They're in transition. Slowly on the downside trajectory."
PESTICIDE, re: NYPD officer Daniel Pantaleo won't face federal charges in Eric Garner "chokehold" death
Posted 7/16/19
"... Eric Garner died because he refused to follow orders, compounded by being a morbidly obese fat f*** with medical issues."
PESTICIDE, re: Stories about Fapping at Work
Posted 5/2/18
"How about I got a BJ from a chick and didn't know my boss was in his office. His office faced mine but luckily his door was shut and we finished up right before he walked out. Did I mention our building is open to the public?"
The messages that were posted also have Kuhn talking about sexually harassing and assaulting women, receiving oral sex at work, and calling the BRPD administration a three-ring circus.
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Arkansas judge resigned from his campaign and faced a judicial discipline investigation after it was discovered he used the site to post "racist, sexist, and homophobic" remarks under a pseudonym.
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“sluts are just whores in training”.
In one post blamed women for marital infidelity: “Men have two needs. Feed me and f**k me Take care of both and we will be good. Whichever one you don’t then the men will find.”
He also suggested that women should not divorce cheating husbands: "I see it everyday. A woman makes (an) emotional decision to divorce because the husband stepped out. When otherwise he was a good provider, father, and husband.
"Then a year or two later realizes uh oh I am worse off financially, emotionally and relationship wise but hey they showed that SOB. Too many times the women get their advice from other divorced women."
And in another post he said that gay sex is just a “small step” away from sex with a dog and that people should avoid “gay/lesbian week” at Disney World in Florida.
He also suggested black people should use “white ink” if they have tattoos.
judge who leaked confidential details about an adoption involving Oscar-winning actress Charlize Theron, according to court documents.
There seems to have also been impropriety at work in both cases.
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About a year ago I hired a 25 year old in my office.
ok.
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It was her
Found your problem
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second job and she was excited about the pay raise and the opportunity.
On Brand
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She has three roommates, two of which are lesbian partners and the other one is male. There is always roommate drama.
Totally on brand, wait until she tries to get you to hire those losers.
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her dad sent her money.
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“Rich dads that spoil their daughters and pay for everything”
Yup, she's a cancer.
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and she started crying.
You really need to fire her now, this is a crisis waiting to happen.
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it’s a real issue when you spend some time around this group.
She is going to sue your company, better to cut bait now.
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The 'boomers' war on poverty just decimated the Black family. /s
It's 40% for all groups today.
Yes, we agree LBJ (a greatest) screwed over many things, if you want to blame him for why the boomers are being divorce happy go ahead, but it's well known.
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2017/03/09/led-by-baby-boomers-divorce-rates-climb-for-americas-50-population/
The youngest Silents were 46 by 1990.
There are knock on effects to follow on generations.
Again though the cliff of the counter culture makes it hard to look at a book from the 1970s and compare it to today, even more so than in 2001.
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