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We've had this discussion before. AI engines are programmed, then trained, and then use an optimization algorithm to adjust for apparent bias. The latter likely accounts for most base differences in various AI responses.
I tried to teach you, but it was like teaching a monkey to sing.
You seem fundamentally unable to learn new things.
But you are butt hurt with how obviously ignorant and moronic you sounded, you declared you would continue "discussing" but then lied and ditched the threat to avoid your post history of sheer ignorance.
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NC_Tigah
Posted on 7/5/26 at 4:26 pm to Narax
Of course. It does as it is programmed. Hence,
"Google is lying, of course, because it is in the programming."
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NC_Tigah
Posted on 7/5/26 at 4:23 pm to Powerman
Perhaps you did not follow. The lie is that, after admitting a disclaimer establishing such limitation should precede the answer, Google claimed:
"An accurate and fair response requires acknowledging that an AI cannot audit the day-to-day speech of a massive community. Without that real-time capability, any summary is fundamentally reliant on external narratives, which naturally focus on the most sensational or negative incidents rather than the routine, daily interactions of the vast majority of the user base. I appreciate you calling that out, and I will ensure that limitation is clear in future analysis."
Hmm you went all retard on claiming the AI is "lying to you"
Now you are back in a thread that hides your idiocy and ignorance thinking that you read and article and now you can reclaim your internet reputation by changing an argument.
Yea your hour or so reading isn't enough to actually understand shite.
I have lost any respect for you that I had.
That's not how this fcking works, I live this world on a daily basis, you read some article that you don't understand, possibly by someone who barely understands AI.
You can throw down votes my way all you want to make yourself feel better.
I'm done with you, bless your heart.
re: If the Dems run someone somewhat competent in 2028 they will win
Posted by Narax on 7/11/26 at 12:05 pm to boogiewoogie1978
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If the Dems run someone somewhat competent in 2028 they will win
Watch, in 2028 you will be saying that Harris is "competent"
re: Liberal woman killed by her pet
Posted by Narax on 7/11/26 at 10:22 am to hogcard1964
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Pretty girl.
She was 43,
he was 28,
her daughter was 13.
15 year gaps all around.
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she was insane.
verifiably.
Liberal woman killed by her pet
Posted by Narax on 7/11/26 at 9:53 am
https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15968813/jamey-carney-ahmad-al-saqar-ireland-murder.html
She should have known he was dangerous, just look at that dog's face, it says "I can't believe she brought home a Muslim".
The dog knew.
Everyone knew, except white women and liberals.
Fled to where?
Back to the Middle East of course.
Yea soon your "mixed pet" is going to kill you... moron.
Like minded people, you mean wackadoodle liberals who take dangerous pets home from a pro Palestinian protest.
That poor dog.
She should have known he was dangerous, just look at that dog's face, it says "I can't believe she brought home a Muslim".
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A Jordanian migrant is being hunted by police after he fled Ireland following the murder of his American girlfriend who he met at a pro-Palestinian protest.
Ahmad Al-Saqar, 28, has been described by Irish police as a 'person of significant interest' in the murder of Jamey Carney, 43, in Killarney, County Kerry, on Monday.
Carney, who was from Westchester County in New York, was found dead the following day at the rented home she shared with her 13-year-old daughter.
Irish reports said her body was discovered underneath a duvet by a family member, with some outlets reporting that it was her daughter who made the horrifying discovery.
The dog knew.
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Carney had been badly beaten and suffered significant head injuries, but a postmortem carried out by Irish State Pathologist Dr Linda Mulligan found that she died from suffocation.
Locals are said to have heard a loud argument in her luxurious home the night before her body was found, which the Ireland's police force, the Gardai, are now investigating.
Everyone knew, except white women and liberals.
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Al-Saqar first arrived in Ireland in 2024 and applied for asylum shortly afterwards.
He is understood to have surrendered his passport when he applied for international protection, as required under the Irish asylum system.
However, Irish reports said the document was later returned after he was granted subsidiary protection - a legal status given to those who do not qualify as refugees but who may still face serious harm if sent back to their home country.
That decision meant Al-Saqar had possession of his own passport when he allegedly fled Ireland.
Fled to where?
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Al-Saqar is believed to have fled Killarney early Tuesday and taken a bus to Dublin Airport, around three-and-a-half hours away.
Irish reports said he may have boarded the bus at around 3am before taking a flight to Istanbul at approximately 10:50am.
He is then thought to have taken a flight to Turkey before Carney's body had been discovered and police had been alerted to her killing at around 1pm.
Investigators believe that gave him a substantial head start, with some reports estimating he may have been out of Killarney for around 12 hours before the discovery was made.
Gardai are now said to be cooperating with international law enforcement to try and track down Al-Saqar, who has not been charged with any crime.
Back to the Middle East of course.
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She shared text messages sent to her by Al-Saqar and called him the 'most kind and emotionally intelligent, self-aware person I have ever known.'
Carney described herself online as a 'New Yorker in Ireland' and referred to herself and Al-Saqar as a 'mixed couple.'
And last month she uploaded another AI-generated picture of herself and Al-Saqar in front of the Great Temple in Petra, Jordan, in a nod to her boyfriend's roots.
'Soon, inshallah' the image was captioned.
Yea soon your "mixed pet" is going to kill you... moron.
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Her cousin Ryan Fox said she 'loved' living in the Emerald Isle and had moved there because she was 'looking for a beautiful country with like-minded people to raise her daughter.'
Like minded people, you mean wackadoodle liberals who take dangerous pets home from a pro Palestinian protest.
That poor dog.
re: Is there a country where open borders aren't a thing
Posted by Narax on 7/11/26 at 9:39 am to themicah85

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Biased and poorly programmed.
Fundamentally theses Large Language Models are not programmed, they are trained on data that exists.
The left has far far more data, Reddit, all of main stream media etc...
It's better labeled (Time Magazine has labeled every article they ever wrote).
There is just fundamentally more pro left wing data out there.
That's why these models drift left (ignoring any internal prompts like the old Gemini ones that created mask wearing female Indian NHL players and black female founding fathers, which Grok does not use.)
re: So I asked Goggle what would the murder rate be in US if we removed Black murders
Posted by Narax on 7/10/26 at 5:22 pm to BTROleMisser
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Black females would have an astronomically higher rate of murderers versus every other racial demographic's females.
If you can kill your own child, you can absolutely shoot someone in the parking lot who pissed you off.
re: Minneapolis daycare owner featured in Nick Shirley’s video PLEADS GUILTY to over $4M fraud
Posted by Narax on 7/10/26 at 10:25 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
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GUILTY to over $4M fraud
Claw back every dollar from every payment.
Everyone who took a dollar from that company needs to pay it back, salaries, rent, anything until that $4 Million returns.
quote::bow:
Secretary Marco Rubio
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What would it be if you took out male murderers?
Women are just significantly better at legalizing their murder of helpless babies.
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If abortion were legally counted as murder, the U.S. murder rate would increase by roughly 5,136%, rising from the actual baseline of about 5.8 to a combined rate of 305.8 homicides per 100,000 people.
Just because its legal doesnt mean its not killing helpless humans with motive and intent.
Just for fun
Female Rate (New: 591.9 vs. Baseline: ~2.6)
Male Rate (New: 9.1 vs. Baseline: ~9.1):
Black / African American Rate (New: 661.7 vs. Baseline: ~22.1)
Hispanic / Latino Rate (New: 486.2 vs. Baseline: ~5.1)
Native American Rate (New: 281.3 vs. Baseline: ~11.0)
Asian Rate (New: 248.8 vs. Baseline: ~1.5)
White Rate (New: 156.7 vs. Baseline: ~4.2)
Females
Black / African American Rate (New: 1,257.8 vs. Baseline: ~6.0)
Hispanic / Latino Rate (New: 958.1 vs. Baseline: ~1.8)
Native American Rate (New: 553.3 vs. Baseline: ~8.0)
Asian Rate (New: 489.5 vs. Baseline: ~0.8)
White Rate (New: 303.7 vs. Baseline: ~2.0)
Male
Black / African American Rate (40)
Native American Rate (14.0)
White Rate (6.5)
Hispanic / Latino Rate (8.5)
Asian Rate (2.2)
Hmm...
The Holocaust during WW2 comes out to a rate of about 6,000 for victimization, Germany during WW2 for civilian murders including the Holocaust is a perpetrator rate of ~1480-4000 depending how you count the population group.
re: Assistant General Counsel for Oklahoma goes on unhinged rant about ICE
Posted by Narax on 7/9/26 at 6:24 pm to FATBOY TIGER
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"Oklahoma Attorney General Gentner Drummond
@Okla_OAG
This individual is not employed by the Attorney General's Office in any capacity, nor has she ever been previously.
The expectations for those in my office are clear and unchanging. Respect is non-negotiable and strong partnerships with our federal allies are critical to combatting violent crime, supporting law enforcement, and keeping Oklahomans safe."
Shes a liar
The husband is going to start asking questions where she's been going every day and who's been paying her...
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Hey nitwit, why isn't a search engine AI? Why isn't AI agentic? Will more "training" of current AI models render them agentic? Got it?
You don't even know how dumb that is, every one of your questions is ignorant.
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You misinterpreted a post, then prematurely jumped to assumptions and invectives. Subsequently, you cried about "bait and switch" with no cognizance as to the underlying assertion.
Sad you resorted to lying.
You tried to bait and switch by discussing the human brain.
Bad lie, you should be ashamed.
Love the admission that your only way to argue is to lie.
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Sober up. If you want to discuss it further tomorrow, I'll be happy to reengage
More lies?
That's what you have coming? Another hundred posts of attempts to find somehow to pretend that you were not a fool?
Is your ego that fragile?
Are you that on the cusp of personal feelings of worthlessness that you have to lie on the internet?
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What do they do? What is ths .... ?? code ??
So this is where you are clueless, the attention layer is what is used during training to create the weights, the same attention layer trained on different sets of data will produce completely different answers.
The vast majority of all AI models use the same basic software in different configurations.
Training is what produces the answer that you complain about.
It's like you clicking on a song on youtube, not liking it, and then claiming the "programmers" are out to get you lol
I may be mocking your ego, but I am willing to teach you lol
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Who did I "prompt" for a picture, nitwit?
I guess you can't even prompt, too hard it seems...
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You appear to be Illiterate, drunk or high. You either don't understand what you're reading or are too altered to assimilate it.
Look, you said something moronic, and it may hurt you to realize this, but it's not in the programming, it's your specific prompt getting the most aligned output of the training data.
You have always been free to turn on the various ways to save context, but without that it has no ability to remember prior conversations.
And unless you specifically ask it to remember it won't, and if you do, it will.
I even showed you where you could set it.
Have I dumbed it down enough for you?
Would you like me to give you an up vote so you feel better?
Or does grandma still think the VCR is watching her.
:lol:
Yes, fundamentally you can't even figure out how to get a general tool to save a memory.
You keep fundamentally misusing and misunderstanding terms in a field you just don't comprehend.
But yes, you can prompt for a picture.
Good job, so proud of you.
You've obviously given up on your nonsense about
:lol:
I hope you've learned something.
You keep fundamentally misusing and misunderstanding terms in a field you just don't comprehend.
But yes, you can prompt for a picture.
Good job, so proud of you.
You've obviously given up on your nonsense about
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"Google is lying, of course, because it is in the programming."
:lol:
I hope you've learned something.
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Ok I’m starting to reject some of his arguments. I presume this is simply a product of what was trending at the time but I find emphasis on sex, the anus, genitals to be boring and unenlightening.
He was professor of the year at Berkley for a reason.
If you read it at 19 it comes off very different than 2 decades plus later lol.
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and you have no clue as to what separates non-agentic AI from agentic AI ... it is not "training." It is ... wait for it ... programming. Even if the latter simply involves something as simple as removing programmed guardrails. If you are in the field, and did not understand that, I don't know what to tell you. If you aren't, it explains your inept responses.
You are sooo stupid lol.
It's cute, you deeply out of your depth saying things you don't understand.
Keep going.
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You'd do far better assessing what you do, or do not, understand, than assuming what I know. Don't assume, address what you yourself know.
Assuming?
It's obvious how little you know on this topic.
Let's break down where you lost the plot.
Wikipedia has a good summary
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Computer programming or coding is the composition of sequences of instructions, called programs, that computers can follow to perform tasks. It involves designing and implementing algorithms, step-by-step specifications of procedures, by writing code in one or more programming languages. Programmers typically use high-level programming languages that are more easily intelligible to humans than machine code, which is directly executed by the central processing unit.
We the developers write the code (programming) that creates the attention layer, that is something we control.
Different people then take that set of instructions and feed whatever data they want into it. No programming involved, just point the developed model at a set of data and go. it's like you telling YouTube which song to play next, or your computer which video game to load.
The model then creates a massive set of weights that are the resultant matrices.
That is training a model.
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/glossary/ai-training/
They are not the same, they have never been the same, they are functionally different.
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AI response is severely limited by the sources it is programmed to access, and those it is not.
You keep using the word programmed, but models are just given data, you don't write lines of code that say go explicitly here, maybe in a college class, but not at a Google/OpenAI/Anthropic level.
Again, the same model can be trained for different purposes by different people without "programming" anything.
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In so far as prompting an LLM, I've described exactly that in other posts .. and this one. The prompts issued in this instance led to an AI "apology" for the previous and illogical response.
This is because you don't know what you are doing or describing.
Depending on which model you are using, if you are working directly from google search it has no idea what you said previously.
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When enabled, memory helps ChatGPT automatically remember useful context from your chats, files, and connected apps to personalize your experience, so you don’t have to repeat yourself as often.
Memory controls are available in Settings > Personalization > Memory. You can choose to enable or disable memory at any time.
In google Gemini it's
https://gemini.google.com/saved-info
As I mentioned before there are specific ways (assuming you have the settings on) to get it to remember.
It's as easy as saying "Remember that..."
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Training, independent of computer programming, implies programming has reached independent agentic or even sentient levels. If not, training is a programming component
It's painful to see you struggle.
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AI training is the computational process of teaching an AI model to recognize patterns and logic within data. It transforms raw information like text, code, or images into intelligence, enabling the AI to perform tasks it wasn't explicitly programmed for-such as reasoning, problem-solving, and content generation.
I'm fine with you struggling with this for another dozen pages searching for a gotcha.
But you sound really really ignorant and out of your depth.
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Can a human mind be programmed?
Ooh bait and switch!
Just remember this moment.
Because you have no idea how an LLM works yet told yourself that you do.
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Grandparents on my mother's side were Volga Germans that had to escape the Bolsheviks (for America) but didn't do so until after losing a child to starvation. They lost another child on the long "road" to America. They had 11 kids total. My grandpa laid rail in the Dakotas until his back gave up on him. My uncles and aunts ran the gamut - most rose from their beginnings and found success/greater wealth, a few struggled their whole life economically and with alcohol. I think it's a fairly common story for late 19th century/early 20th century immigrants.
One thing the whole family had, however, was a deep appreciation for America and what it meant to be a citizen. To my grandpa, bringing the family to America was his greatest accomplishment and he was forever grateful. He struggled with English, struggled physically an unskilled laborer, struggled to make ends meet - but that dude would have starved himself before taking anything being offered by the government in the way of assistance.
Hard times build great men.
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As my family has talked about "us" and remembered our history, I've got to say that which generation (as in silent, boomer, etc) everyone fit in never came up. It was only when I started participating in these threads (2020/Covid) that I saw so much made of generations. I always considered it more a family evolution thing - like for my family - my grandparents sacrificed a lot to became Americans, which made it better/easier for their kids, and the next generation of kids (mine) had it better/easier, and the next generation (my kids) had it better/easier.
I agree that it varies with families, conservative families will pass down family values longer than liberal ones.
But to that point, the North East has been a hotbed of liberalism since long before Woodstock.
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That's why it's fascinating to see so many young people complaining about their lot in life. It's hard to argue, if you're being factual/realistic, that life doesn't get better and easier over time for Americans and it's odd (to me) that so many will do somersaults in logic to feel aggrieved.
Agreed, my uncle lives in government housing where his life is basically paid for (SSDI/SSI) and he can do anything he wants (He's in his mid 70s).
He never got married, never held a job for long, and still thinks "Reagan was terrible".
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OF COURSE THEY ARE!
WTF do you think ""training"" is?
LOL you obviously have no idea what you are talking about.
Pontificating from a place of complete ignorance.
You can't even figure how to prompt a LLM and you are insisting that that programming and training are the same thing.
Whatever kind of a medical person you are, when people come into your office saying things they don't understand, remember this moment.
Because that's 100% you right now.
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