Cuz413

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Here's a clue: "US" stand for UNITED States

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The Confederation of States that all of the United States were a party of was a perpetual union. Yet somehow history overlooks that fact that each State had to leave that Union to ratify the Constitution to form the US (These United States, not The United States.)

They were still the United States without the seceded ones.

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federal property

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Was located in their State and offered to pay for it

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fired first on the US Army

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This was not the first act of war, that belongs to the Union

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What of those who didn't want out?

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The same for those counties today that want to leave their current State, they as individuals are free to go. Otherwise, it's a fight they have to take on. States have sovereignty through the people of that State. The federal government has no sovereignty.

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You don't know anything about Sherman's March

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“There is a class of people [in the South], men, women and children, who must be killed or banished before you can hope for peace and order.”

Women and children. This man was a psychopath and not someone to be revered.

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He organized the whole march and shite...behind O's back. He is one bottom of the barrel pos scum, and a race baiting mf at that.

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I agree with you

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goal was the same - to take the fight out of the enemy and deny him the means to carry it out. What Sherman did saved a lot us US Army soldiers' lives - just like when we dropped the Bomb on Hiroshima.

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What was the threat to the US for the southern States leaving? There was no threat of violence or takeover. They simply wanted out of the union.

What was the threat from villages in rural Georgia that required Sherman burning then to the ground?

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If you weren't with the program, you had no rights to free speech as we know it today.

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Lincoln imprisoned State officials and news reporters via suspension of habeas corpus. He used the military to end the conscription riots in NY (that's a good one for you to look up, you can read about how those virtuous Northerners lynched Black people and burned the homes of rich families)

I don't know more about the Antebellum North than the South. What i do know is people like you believe only what history you have been fed your whole life to prop up a narrative to reinforce the need for an overarching, all powerful central government.

The history of the War for Southern Independence and Abraham Lincoln have been purposefully dumbed down to a third grade understanding to believe there was a dialectical choice between the altruistic North and the evil South. That is no where close to what it was.

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The South was truly a tyranny

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Is this what they teach in schools nowadays?

Listen to me closely, the War between the States was a war between two racist Nations. I don't have to pretend the South were the good guys to say the Yankees were pieces of shite.

The battle was over money and power. Not some altruistic virtue held by an extreme minority.

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Yet it was never brought to a vote as an amendment before the war by these so called conscientious people, now was it?

Think of the things we have not brought to vote as amendments: Voter ID, Birthright citizenship; and the limiting of the Commerce Clause to bolster States’ Rights. Why? Because these would have 0% chance of passing.

A Constitutional Amendment to ban slavery, when half the states were slavers, would have had no chance to garner the 3/4s of the states necessary.
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And when was this statement made in 1861 before the war began?

I can’t believe you seriously asked that question, because the answer is, “All over Christiandom.” Most notably in Uncle Tom’s Cabin.

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You didn't answer either question. All you did was spout some irrelevant bullshite.

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The truth is that conscientious men and women had long since concluded that Africans were humans and that enslaving humans was a great moral wrong…and they were right.

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Yet it was never brought to a vote as an amendment before the war by these so called conscientious people, now was it?

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The Civil War was a moral war, just as it was framed by the nonpareil Abraham LIncoln.

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And when was this statement made in 1861 before the war began?

Bottom left, that's the movie Sinbad made, right?

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The United States of America and into the giant federal monstrosity it is today. Lincoln should shoulder some of the blame for the problems our country faces today, not all, but some.

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He should, but not with the massive amount of mythmaking that has ascended him to God-like status with the people who refuse to learn history.

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By the mid 19th century it was becoming clear that Slavery was indefensible from an evolved human perspective.

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Europe emancipated their slaves a decade or so before the war and no war was fought.

Lincoln backed the Corwin amendment which would have allowed slavery into perpetuity in the existing slave states.

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Then abolition became only a moral issue for Northerners.

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Only because the Union army was getting its arse handed to them and Lincoln knew it was only a matter of time before Britain and possibly France were going to side with the Confederates.

And let's not pretend the North overwhelmingly freed their slaves, most were sold to the plantations in the South hence "being sold down the river"

The North didn't open their arms and take in freed slaves either.

Also, research "Contraband Camps" and how these freed blacks were treated.